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Old 01-17-2020, 03:33 PM
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Hey everyone, I had another post about calling 811 before digging in Miami, and now the trees are planted. I used a 27lb demolition hammer to break through the coral and dug the holes over 2 times the size of the container the trees came in. Before planting, I watered inside the dug hole and the roots of the tree, installed tree, and put the dirt back in 3 phases, watering between phases to remove air pockets. I've watered every day since then, a pretty deep watering.

Now almost a week later, the fronds are turning yellow and brown. The worst is the palm on the back fence in the first picture. The 2 coconut palms in the middle are not as bad but have slowly turned yellow/brown. The trees looked great when I picked them out from the nursery.

I've read you shouldn't fertilize palms for the first 3 months, but after that you should fertilize 3 - 4 times a year. I don't expect there's many nutrients in soil that is straight coral, but palms do great down here. What do y'all think is happening? Either transplant shock, not enough watering, over watering, or not enough nutrients in the soil ... and I shouldn't fertilize for 3 more months. I would think they'd die...



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Ive relocated plants and all the leaves have fallen off. Youd think they would have been dead and made a full recovery. Im no expert but I imagine give them some time and they will be fine.
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I have always put a fertilizer pellet in the hole with the plant. Keep watering. I was told palms need a lot of water for the first few months. In the panhandle they cut the leaves way back. Call it a hurricane cut.
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Originally Posted by kwipp View Post
Ive relocated plants and all the leaves have fallen off. Youd think they would have been dead and made a full recovery. Im no expert but I imagine give them some time and they will be fine.
Gives me some hope! I find it strange that Miami is all coral with doubtfully any nutrients in the ground, but you're not supposed to fertilize for 3 months for newly planted palms. I don't see how they'd get any nutrients at all.
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They are fine. Coconut palms are resilient. You almost have to try to kill them. I fertilize mine with cow manure bags from home depot a couple times a year. Nothing else.
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They are fine.
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If the trees were grown in the shade at the nursery and then planted in full sun that will cause leaves to yellow or burn also .But they will be fine.
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Water, look fine to me
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Old 01-18-2020, 06:09 AM
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Water each tree daily for 3 weeks with 20-25 minutes of trickle out of hose. Then 3 weeks of every other day.

Palms need controlled release fert only 3 times a year. Do not fert in winter as they are not sucking up nutrients like spring summer and fall.

Use palm fert like Lesco 8-2-12 with micronutrients.

Don't overwater. Newly planted palms will lose bottom fronds more frequently. This should slow down after 4-5 months.

Your trees look fine.

You should also build a temporary berm around the root ball so water stays over the roots and not run off. You can knock that down after a few months.

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I co-own a landscape business plus have a palm nursery.

Lay 25 lbs of palm fertilizer around the rootball. Keep rootball wet.

I fertilize in winter so palm stores nutrients.

Only cut off dead branches nothing green.
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I put fish emulsion on my palms, can get it from Walmart or Lowes for the larger sizes. Stuff is like viagra for your plants, yes it stinks but it works. As mentioned water them frequently, also make sure you don't have any air pockets around the roots.
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FYI w/ the fishmeal fertilizer. I put about 5 lbs of a palm fert w/ heavy fishmeal around each of my 3 date and 9 foxtail palms in the late afternoon about 2 months ago. Left the following morning for a week and the yard smelled like death. Actually had buzzards circling the house and neighbor got pissed. Stills smells a little when I disturb the remnants.
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Not sure if fish meal is the same as fish emulsion but yes it stinks, once it is watered in the stink goes away. Plants seem to love it.


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FYI w/ the fishmeal fertilizer. I put about 5 lbs of a palm fert w/ heavy fishmeal around each of my 3 date and 9 foxtail palms in the late afternoon about 2 months ago. Left the following morning for a week and the yard smelled like death. Actually had buzzards circling the house and neighbor got pissed. Stills smells a little when I disturb the remnants.
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Here is everything you need to know about coconut palm trees from the experts at UF Agricultural extension. I propagate from seed several varieties of palms and although most are easy to grow Coconuts, Queen and Majesty suffer when young from a lack of the proper ratio of fertilizer.

The Coconut Palm in Florida
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Originally Posted by Sixstring View Post
Water each tree daily for 3 weeks with 20-25 minutes of trickle out of hose. Then 3 weeks of every other day.

Palms need controlled release fert only 3 times a year. Do not fert in winter as they are not sucking up nutrients like spring summer and fall.

Use palm fert like Lesco 8-2-12 with micronutrients.

Don't overwater. Newly planted palms will lose bottom fronds more frequently. This should slow down after 4-5 months.

Your trees look fine.

You should also build a temporary berm around the root ball so water stays over the roots and not run off. You can knock that down after a few months.
This is spot on. Follow this.

Also the yellowing you are seeing is the plant re-routing energy from the frawns to the root system. They will be fine in the log run if you do as instructed above.
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Look into KelpMax. Landscapers use a lot of it because it stimulates root grow extremely well, allowing the plants to get established faster. One ounce per gallon now, and again in a month.
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Originally Posted by oceanluvr30 View Post
Here is everything you need to know about coconut palm trees from the experts at UF Agricultural extension. I propagate from seed several varieties of palms and although most are easy to grow Coconuts, Queen and Majesty suffer when young from a lack of the proper ratio of fertilizer.

The Coconut Palm in Florida
Thanks for all the replies. I've read online that you should not fertilize newly planted coconut plants until a few months after planting them. Is this true? I would think since Miami Dade is pretty much all coral and rock cap, there are not many nutrients in the ground and that they should be fertilized immediately. I can't find a good answer on this.

The UF agricultural extension has this handy table for my avocado trees, 1/4lb - 1/2 lb of fertilizer every 2 months for the first year. The coconut palm doesn't have this table but I would assume less than a pound of fertilizer a few times a year. It mentions nothing about don't fertilize right after planting, I read that part on websites.


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Originally Posted by Sixstring View Post
Water each tree daily for 3 weeks with 20-25 minutes of trickle out of hose. Then 3 weeks of every other day.

Palms need controlled release fert only 3 times a year. Do not fert in winter as they are not sucking up nutrients like spring summer and fall.

Use palm fert like Lesco 8-2-12 with micronutrients.

Don't overwater. Newly planted palms will lose bottom fronds more frequently. This should slow down after 4-5 months.

Your trees look fine.

You should also build a temporary berm around the root ball so water stays over the roots and not run off. You can knock that down after a few months.
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This is spot on. Follow this.

Also the yellowing you are seeing is the plant re-routing energy from the frawns to the root system. They will be fine in the log run if you do as instructed above.
Would y'all happen to know about fertilizing young trees? I'm reading don't fertilize the first year, other webpages say definitely fertilize because container grown palms likely lack nitrogen, and other says use foliar application fertilizers. I bought 20lbs of granular palm fertilizer but don't want to put it on if it hurts it.

For comparison my avocado and mango trees I put only 1/4 lbs of granular on them. It was recommended by UF agriculture extension but they don't have quantity recommendations for palms, or anything about not fertilizing when they're young
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You can't fertilize it enough. I put 20 to 40 lb's per palm at my house and farm.
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I have 10 coconuts in my yard that came up from the coconuts laying on the ground. It seems once they get going they are pretty tough. They live on neglect here. Queens are invasive exotics here. I don't know how you kill them unless you get an infestation of butt rot (Ganoderma) and then they all die.,

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