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Old 01-10-2020, 06:51 AM
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Default Need Plumber for Wall Hung Toilet in West Pasco, FL

I am trying to find a plumber for my master bath renovation who specifically has experience installing Geberit in-wall toilet carriers. My GC's normal plumbing sub has 140 plumbers on staff and only one has ever installed an in-wall carrier...and only once (and I don't know which brand).

I really would like to install the wall hung bowl but I do not want to be a guinea pig for the installation. It's not rocket science but it's not something I want done by someone who is feeling his way through the instruction manual. There's too much that can go wrong. I'm willing to pay for experience.

Please let me know if you know of a conscientious plumber who has experience installing Geberit in-wall systems (as well as the rest of the remodel plumbing).

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Call Chad at Continental plumbing 727-888-5137 - They did my install several years back
Old 01-10-2020, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Stix1 View Post
Call Chad at Continental plumbing 727-888-5137 - They did my install several years back
Thanks. You have a Geberit system?

Continental actually installed my softener several years back.
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Are you doing a standard in wall carrier with wall hung closet? Any plumber who has done commercial work can install that.
If you're doing their in wall hidden flush tank system with carrier, I don't think you'll find too many people with experience in those.
There are good videos available on line. It can't be that hard. Just make absolute certain that your measurements on spot on, especially if doing the hidden flush tank system.
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Originally Posted by KenoJoe View Post
Are you doing a standard in wall carrier with wall hung closet? Any plumber who has done commercial work can install that.
If you're doing their in wall hidden flush tank system with carrier, I don't think you'll find too many people with experience in those.
It's this Geberit in-wall carrier. It's all contained in the 2x4 cavity and there are multiple bowls that are compatible. I plan to use a Toto Aquia.

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There are good videos available on line. It can't be that hard. Just make absolute certain that your measurements on spot on, especially if doing the hidden flush tank system.
I've watched all the videos and you're right, it's not rocket science. Neither is parallel parking, but few get it right on their first try. All of the measurements do need to be spot-on. That precision comes with experience. There are no do overs. It's got to be installed right the first time.
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What you are putting in is the in wall concealed flush tank. Very cool set up but I doubt you will find anyone with experience installing them. Maybe a company that deals in high end homes?

The wall hung carrier type toilet install is very common. Go in any library or establishment that has multiple commodes and you will see them, and any company that does alot of commercial work would have no problem with a wall hung toilet or carrier. What you're putting in is a different animal, and would require more precision.
If you have a local vendor or supply house that carries these, they may be able to help with an installer. In my area Hydrologic or Ferguson is where I would ask first. I know Ferguson is a Geberit vendor and they have plumbers in and out of their walk in parts counter all day.
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I have used these guys a few times at my business. I would not hesitate to use them again or recommend them. Very good work, very professional.
I have no idea if they are familiar with your install.

https://www.yourplumbers.com/
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What you are putting in is the in wall concealed flush tank. Very cool set up but I doubt you will find anyone with experience installing them. Maybe a company that deals in high end homes?

The wall hung carrier type toilet install is very common. Go in any library or establishment that has multiple commodes and you will see them, and any company that does alot of commercial work would have no problem with a wall hung toilet or carrier. What you're putting in is a different animal, and would require more precision.
If you have a local vendor or supply house that carries these, they may be able to help with an installer. In my area Hydrologic or Ferguson is where I would ask first. I know Ferguson is a Geberit vendor and they have plumbers in and out of their walk in parts counter all day.
Yep, already went to the Ferguson showroom in St. Pete and asked if they know of any plumbers in the area who have experience installing Geberit carriers. They suggested two plumbers who are in St Pete (kind of far from my home) who they thought might have experience. They weren't sure. And the Geberit website shows the closest installer 100 miles away, in Orlando.

I have a call into Continental.
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OK, I'm fascinated. I didn't know this was a thing. Of course, now I'm curious. What is leading you to want one of these? What's the practical application that adds the value that makes you go through this install hassle and the future "non-standard" over a conventional toilet? If it didn't come across right, I'm asking in seriousness. I want to learn.
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My current home has wall hung toilets built in 1978 (long story).
When I bought it 4 years ago both gaskets (2 toilets) were leaking at the mounting area.
It has that wall framed with 2" X 10" studs and has an angle iron frame at the mounting area.
I replaced one of the toilets with an elongated model that has the pressure flush and installed neoprene gaskets, NOT WAX RINGS.
Looking at the 2" X 4" frame in the link I would ONLY trust that with new framing designed for that system!
There will be a lot of strain on the top and bottom plates and should require better fasteners than a standard framed wall, which too often can be questionable, will have.
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Originally Posted by rojeho View Post
OK, I'm fascinated. I didn't know this was a thing. Of course, now I'm curious. What is leading you to want one of these? What's the practical application that adds the value that makes you go through this install hassle and the future "non-standard" over a conventional toilet? If it didn't come across right, I'm asking in seriousness. I want to learn.
It's primarily an aesthetic choice. But it also protrudes less into the narrow space (bathroom is less than 5 feet wide) and makes cleaning around the toilet/floor easier.

I travel internationally for a living. These are common across Europe and much of Asia. It's something I've been wanting to incorporate into my home for quite some time.

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...Looking at the 2" X 4" frame in the link I would ONLY trust that with new framing designed for that system!
There will be a lot of strain on the top and bottom plates and should require better fasteners than a standard framed wall, which too often can be questionable, will have.
The framing will be brand new and is being structured to hold the carrier and the floating (wall hung) vanity that will be next to it.
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They must have come a long way!
When I was in Europe 1968-70 they mostly had "Bombsite Toilets"!
A place for each foot and a hole in the floor.
The deluxe had the high tank and a pull chain.
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I have a couple of bathrooms with the Geberit toilet system installed.

Unfortunately I'm in California. But when mine were installed, they didn't seem that difficult.
The only advice I can give you is the toilets leave tremendous skid marks. Every. Single. Time.
mine were installed with 2x6" framing. I'd be afraid of 2x4 framing supporting the bowl
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Block wall? Want the soil line visible outside the house?
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Slab floor? Can't do it. Drain line is in the wrong place. Forget it.
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Originally Posted by Stix1 View Post
Call Chad at Continental plumbing 727-888-5137 - They did my install several years back
Looks like I'll be using Chad/Continental.

He's got a great attitude and they have installed these carriers in the past.
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Originally Posted by TipsyMcStagger View Post
Looks like I'll be using Chad/Continental.

He's got a great attitude and they have installed these carriers in the past.
Gonna pad the wall out 8" or so?
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Gonna pad the wall out 8" or so?
Bill, I'm using the Geberit carrier for 2x4 installations. It's being installed on an outside block wall that will be laminated with 3/4" foam board. A traditional 2x4 wall will then be framed against the 3/4" foam. The 2x4 cavity is all that is needed to house the carrier. The 2x4 wall will be insulated with Rockwool Safe'n'Sound.

I'm not sure what you're envisioning but there is no need for an 8" frame-out nor is there any need for the waste line to be outside the house.

The slab is about 18" above grade. Relocating the waste for the in-wall carrier will be no different than relocating the waste for a floor mounted toilet. It will simply be offset closer to the block than the traditional 12" for a floor mounted rough-in.


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You do realize that if it is a monolithic slab, they slab may be 16" thick?
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You do realize that if it is a monolithic slab, they slab may be 16" thick?
Yes.

This is not a monolithic slab. I assume your next question will be how do I know this? Because I've owned this home for 10 years, have completed extensive renovations and have broken the slab in more than one instance, to include relocating the toilet rough-in in the other bathroom.

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