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Old 04-21-2019, 08:58 AM
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Its a huge tragedy but if you live in Dade county and witness what happens on the water. Its incredible that people don't die every weekend. There is absolutely no knowledge or understanding, values of any kind on the water.
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Old 04-21-2019, 09:06 AM
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Government Cut has lighted channel markers. I count about 14 in this chart.
You just have to know how to read them and know to slow down if you aren't exactly sure where you are.
Its the Atlantic Ocean not a shopping mall parking lot .



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Old 04-21-2019, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by avalonandl View Post
Such senseless loss. I cant believe there aren't lights on those rocks.
Why blame the rocks and lack of light? Why not blame the operator?
This is the same as the stupid gun argument. Rocks donít kill people, careless people do.
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Old 04-21-2019, 09:41 AM
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very sad news, but the rocks didn’t move out in front of the boat all of a sudden. Personal responsibility of the operator. Charts, chart plotters, radar, and even FLIR are available for people. The most important thing is someone paying attention. Then, only go as fast as safety allows. Don’t blame the rocks for peoples’ poor choices (and tragic choices).

I feel for for the family of the missing person. Wondering if their loved one is alive or not is absolutely horrid.
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Old 04-21-2019, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Muggin Mullet View Post
A few weeks back he posted a sandbar video of a Cape Horn that is wrapped. People in the comments were saying its possibly that boat. If it is, my lord. Seems the boat is owned by a father and the 15-17 year old kids use it alone often. Its a tragedy no matter who was on board. But if it was young kids....

Its hard to make out from his video but Im leaning more towards it not being that same boat.
The video on last nights news showed an adult with tattoos being wheeled into the hospital.
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Old 04-21-2019, 09:52 AM
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Do people not use plotters?
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Old 04-21-2019, 10:07 AM
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Do people not use plotters?
I'll tell you what most people do not use and that is personal floatation devices. With the ready availability of automatically inflatable PFD's there is no reasonable excuse to not wear one. I boat in SWFL and if I see one other person a day wearing an inflatable that is surprising. I don't understand why the USCG doesn't make their use mandatory but I guess you just can't protect people from themselves. Mix in drugs, alcohol and speed and you have all the ingredients for disaster.
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Old 04-21-2019, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by tarpononecharter View Post
I'll tell you what most people do not use and that is personal floatation devices. With the ready availability of automatically inflatable PFD's there is no reasonable excuse to not wear one. I boat in SWFL and if I see one other person a day wearing an inflatable that is surprising. I don't understand why the USCG doesn't make their use mandatory but I guess you just can't protect people from themselves. Mix in drugs, alcohol and speed and you have all the ingredients for disaster.

Not everything that is a good idea or practice should be mandated.
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Old 04-21-2019, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Rferrell View Post
Do people not use plotters?
Yes they do, and that is one of the problems I see so much. Just like auto pilot. They become tunnel mesmerized, and never look up. They just sit there staring at the equipment. See in your own question there is a problem. If everything broke down would you know how to use a chart, give a lon and lat on the radio? cross points to find a baring? scan the horizon to view for beacons and count how many times the come on so you could cross reference on a chart?
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Originally Posted by Cat-a-holic View Post
Not everything that is a good idea or practice should be mandated.
Yes but IMHO just like any vehicle there should be proper education to know whats in your hands. Anyone with enough money can buy whatever they want size speed you name it, In the boating industry. And there is no question on how much knowledge you have to operate what so ever.
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Old 04-21-2019, 11:02 AM
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Looks like @momentumfishing on instagrams boat?

Really horrible to hear.
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Old 04-21-2019, 01:01 PM
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You cannot legislate common sense. Darwin was right. Our gene pool needs more chlorine.
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Old 04-21-2019, 01:13 PM
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Very sad, my son has been fishing with them many times. Prayers for all, an only child lost his parents last night.
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Originally Posted by ychtcptn View Post
Very sad, my son has been fishing with them many times. Prayers for all, an only child lost his parents last night.
Sorry for your loss, no matter what the cause itís still unbelievably tragic.
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Old 04-21-2019, 01:59 PM
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Terrible
Channel is well marked, maybe lack of local knowledge, that jetty goes out a long way from the beach.
Was a full moon, clear visibility, flat calm


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Old 04-21-2019, 02:11 PM
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everyone is on here blaming drugs/ alcohol/ speed. well no siht!!!! but why not place lights on the jetty???? broward country gives billions to food stamps to people milking the system !!! and were on here debating drugs/ alcohol/ using a chart , calling out lat long !!!!! wtf is wrong w some of you people on here ????? yes we know how to boat ! yes we are responsible ! yes we know how to be safe !!! but not everyone is like us and maybe we should be compassionate about 3 dead kids who were just out partying and made a mistake and it cost them their lives !!! how about you think about the mom and dad that lost their only child !!! maybe some of you numb nuts were the gene pool that shouldn't have made it this far.
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Originally Posted by PelagicHunter View Post
everyone is on here blaming drugs/ alcohol/ speed. well no siht!!!! but why not place lights on the jetty???? broward country gives billions to food stamps to people milking the system !!! and were on here debating drugs/ alcohol/ using a chart , calling out lat long !!!!! wtf is wrong w some of you people on here ????? yes we know how to boat ! yes we are responsible ! yes we know how to be safe !!! but not everyone is like us and maybe we should be compassionate about 3 dead kids who were just out partying and made a mistake and it cost them their lives !!! how about you think about the mom and dad that lost their only child !!! maybe some of you numb nuts were the gene pool that shouldn't have made it this far.

I completely agree, I was reading the thread thinking the same thing. Iím not perfect by any means and have certainly made my fair share of bad judgements. I actually typed out a similar response and wound up not posting it because it wonít change the self righteousness of the dickheads out here preaching. People are dead and severely injured, very unfortunate and there will be family and friends who are grieving for quite some time. Even without any impairments accidents happen all the time, I agree with others why not just mark it, even if it prevents one fatality itís worth it.
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Old 04-21-2019, 03:56 PM
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Clarification- It was not kids, 4 adults including owner, who I am assuming was driving is very experienced.
The owner of the boat and his wife were killed along, presumably with another. They had one son in High School, who is now parentless.
My son has been over there all day, in fact he had to move our boat off there dock yesterday so they could leave on this trip to Miami for dinner.
This is a tragedy, I have been very conflicted/upset all day over this. I will wait until the accident report comes out to pass judgement.
My son and most of his buddies are better Captains at 15/16 y.o. than a large percentage of the arm chair Captains out there, and this has been a good learning moment for the whole gang on boating safety.
As a professional Capt of many years I know shit happens and mistakes can happen quickly, whenever something like this happens, I just think by the grace of god, that was not me!
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Old 04-21-2019, 03:56 PM
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MIAMI BEACH, FLA. (WSVN) - A married couple was killed and another victim was rushed to the hospital after, officials said, their boat slammed into a jetty near Government Cut, launching a search for a missing boater and leaving loved ones devastated.

Multiple agencies, including Miami Beach Police and Fire Rescue units, responded to the scene of the crash near South Pointe Park Pier, Saturday night.

7News cameras captured rescue crews outside of the U.S. Coast Guard station at 100 MacArthur Causeway, just after 11 p.m.

Officials said a boat carrying four people hit the jagged rocks and immediately capsized.

Friends of the victims said they were a group of friends who went out on the water to celebrate one of their birthdays.

Officials said Miami-Dade Fire Rescue divers located two bodies and a male passenger near the overturned vessel.

“At least two lives are lost. It happened near Government Cut in Miami Beach, and we are searching for a possible missing boater,” said Florida Fish and Wildlife spokesperson Ron Washington.



Family members identified the deceased victims as Chris and Elis Colgann.

7News spoke with the couple’s 16-year-old son, Chris Colgann Jr. on Sunday.

“I’m just shocked. I don’t understand any of it,” he said. “I just feel terrible. I feel like I’m in a nightmare, and I can’t wake up.”

The teen said the victims were celebrating his mother’s birthday at the time of crash.

“They went on the boat that day. They went to Miami ’cause my mom wanted to go for her birthday, ’cause her birthday is today,” he said.

Late Saturday night, cameras showed Miami Beach Fire Rescue crews taking the surviving victim into Ryder Trauma Center as a trauma alert.

Family members believe this is the Colganns’ friend Troy Forte.

Colgann said he and a friend also went out on the water around the same time, but on a different boat.

When he and his friend returned home and his parents were not back, the teen knew something was wrong.

“Like 12 o’clock strikes, and I’m like, ‘OK, they should be home right now,’ and then I was kind of worried,” said Colgann.

Shortly after, he heard about a boat crash near Government Cut. Images of the battered boat confirmed his worst fears.

“As soon as I saw it, I knew,” he said.

Colgann soon learned his parents did not survive the impact.

“It doesn’t feel real. It does not feel real to me,” he said.

An air rescue helicopter hovered above the water on Easter Sunday, as a Miami-Dade Fire Rescue dive team continued to search for the missing boater.

The wreck took place near the same location where Miami Marlins star pitcher Jose Fernandez and two other passengers were killed on Sept. 25, 2016.

Toxicology reports revealed Fernandez had alcohol and cocaine in his system, but his family attorney claimed he was not operating the boat.

Saturday’s crash remains under investigation.

“As we continue this investigation, more details will follow as they are confirmed,” said Washington.

As he waits for answers, Colgann said he is struggling to find the strength to make sense of this tragedy. He added that he wants the community to remember his parents as sweet, caring people who raised him with nothing but love and affection.

“They were just so generous. Like, I have so many friends that come over. Everyone feels like their parents to them, there with open arms to anyone,” he said, “All I can describe them is as amazing people.”

Colgann said his father was an experienced boater who was familiar with Government Cut and South Florida’s waterways.

As of Sunday afternoon, the condition of the victim who was taken to the hospital remains unknown.
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Old 04-21-2019, 04:18 PM
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Just horrible. God bless that kid.
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