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REEL TEAR DOWN AND COMPARISON PRESENTATION HERE:
http://www.frigatesales.com/support-documents.html


Introductory pricing on the Banax Kaigen 1000 electric reel - $599 Shipped to the lower 48.

PM or email, and I'll send an invoice, payment via CC or paypal is preferred.

If you've ever fished with one, you know it's a good reel. I've had a pair for the past 2.5 years, with a lot of time, and a lot of fish. I've also had a few of my fishing buddys buy the same. They'd agree with me whole heartedly.

But, you have to buy them overseas, shipping is slow and expensive, service is nil, and warranty?? Of course not.

I have an agreement with Banax Korea to distribute and repair their line of electric reels. 1 Year / 200 hour warranty.

My first order came in Friday (included spare parts), and my torture testing was wrapped up last night. Time to go to market.

In the next few posts, I will provide more info and details from my tests / teardown.

Link to the banax catalog:
http://banax.co.kr/new/images/inc/2015/eng/EBook.htm
It's slow, but the reel is on page 3....

Mine have english labels too!

Specs are very similar to a Daiwa T1000.

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Yes, I know, 1 post...
I've been on THT for quite a few years under another name, and have really enjoyed the information (and humor) I've received. I've bought and sold a lot through here as an individual with great success, and have found good folks to deal with through THT.

That said, I've started a small business, with the sole purpose of getting some decent electric reels to the US market for a fair price, and with great service. I'm starting here to get a few of these reels out into the market, as THT is the best resource I know of for exposure.

If you fish out of southern LA with a Daiwa T1000, send a PM or email, I'll give you a loaner.

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Banax and Daiwa were the same company from 1973 to 1992, when they parted ways.

Banax has significant US sales for offshore spinning and conventional product, they manufacture for some of the big names you'd definitely recognize. For that reason, very little effort has been spent on the US, as they are not going to compete against their existing customers.

They have been great to work with, response time & knowledge has been outstanding.

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Test results:
Brand New out of the box
K1000 (Banax) - 38# max drag, very smooth
T1000 (Daiwa) - 44# max drag, lumpy

Set both at 25# of drag, cleated the lines, and let them go at full speed. 3.5 minutes until T1000 starts to stink, 4 minutes, there is a whisp of smoke.
Cool down, 15 minutes.
Readjust drag to 25# and repeat. T1000 trips after 10 seconds, constantly. K1000 hums along.

Day 2-
Set at 22# drag, and flip up the speed lever. 3.5 minutes, lots of smoke from the T1000 and trips out. I let the K1000 go to 6 minutes - it was hot - but didn't smoke or smell "burnt"

The K1000 will switch automatically from high speed to high torque / low speed. This brings up stubborn fish. From my tests, it happens at about 18# of drag pressure.

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Bearings:

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Primary Gears:

Look at the difference in face width, and the helical vs. straight cut. Which looks stronger?

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Motor Driver Circuitry Case / Heatsink - Cast Aluminum:




T1000 does not have a heatsink, all components are embedded in epoxy inside of the sideplate of the reel.

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Drive motor:


Cast aluminum completely sealed motor housing for reliability and heat dissapation.

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Drag:
Banax K1000 on Left, T1000 on right
K1000 appears to be carbon, daiwa is a reddish brown composite.
Slightly different diameters??

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Make sure you read to page 2:
http://alantani.com/index.php?PHPSES...&topic=9027.15

These are not for swordfishing!

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So no interest?
What else do you need to know? I've sold a few locally very quickly, as there are a few with experience on these reels.


I'll ship spooled with tuf-line XP 100#, 800 Meters, $625 shipped.

jhymel1

It is great to see that these are now available in the United States and someone in my backyard is willing to back them for warranty and repair. A few years ago I bought one on the internet and had it imported in. I read a few good reviews on the net and it was cheaper than the comparable Daiwa so I gave it a shot. I primarily use mine for snapper and tiles and typically drop with 3-4lb window sash weights. I am really impressed with the reel and it has been going strong for the last 2 years.

redfishray

Amazing that the components are much tougher looking than diawa. I'm excited to see them in action. Thanks for the detailed explanation/comparison of the two. Good luck with the sales!
Ray

Grandmaster

Does this have an English user's manual too? Man I almost had myself talked into a one of those spooled T1000 deals. Now you have me thinking. Decisions, decisions!

sail_lover95

will have to pick one up from you in the next couple months. They look great!

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Sorry for the delay, I was busy catching tiles yesterday with my 2.5 year old Banax 1000s!

The manual is barely english....
I told Banax it sucks....
I am in process of rewriting the manual, and will post on my website. Banax is going to include "my" manual with my next order of reels, great guys to work with!

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Bump - presentation link added to the first post.
Please review this presentation!!!!

Thanks for the orders THT crew! I appreciate it, and it has exceeded my expectations.

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Also first feedback from Dave S, Boca Raton FL:

"Got out and used the Banax in 900'-1000' for Barrels. Sloppy conditions, hard to fish, but got about 9 drops in and hooked two Barrels, and landed one about 20-25 lbs.

Interesting how the reel shifts into low when fighting the fish; took away a lot of the surging fight that
Barrels usually do to the Daiwa 1000. I thought I had a Rosie on the way the reel brought up the Barrel!
I think this cushioning effect of the low shift would work well with Swords.
I also trolled with the Banax and caught a Mahi on a MoldCraft Softhead; could use a clicker.
I didn't time it, but the weight seems to come up in slightly more time than the Daiwa, but maybe the bigger spool turns slower so it seems slower.
The reel easily cranks up 500 meters of line, 8lb. weights, and rigs, and even fish!
That motor turning to control backlash, takes some getting used to; it works well.

Overall the reel is smoother and feels more powerful than the Daiwa, but almost has too many buttons/features for what I do, but I did use the hi speed and jigging button a lot.
Other than line capacity I think it's capable of fighting smaller swords.

Will try out the reel again in a few days once TS Erica moves through.
Want to try it out for swords."

venator66

How would this be for kite fishing with the ceramic guide?

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I don't think you'd have any problems using this as a kite rod.