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Old 03-18-2019, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by TorFed View Post
I am fairly certain if the statement was against their ethnicity, you are in lawsuit territory, should you choose to go that route. Especially if you are in an HOA.

Sounds like you have your hands full. I had psychotic neighbors where I last lived (you can look up some old threads for their interesting behavior) but I waited until they left town for the season to sell, knowing they would be an issue.

Did you try talking to your neighbor? Is it a race issue only, or something they're going to try to screw you on every buyer. I've never been through it but have heard nightmare stories of neighbors running everyone off to try to get the land cheap for themselves.
The neighbor had been messaging my wife when she saw people viewing the house and made a comment of really liking the one couple. The only ones she really had anything in detail to say about any of them was her telling my wife that ďsome Hispanics wre
going through the house now.Ē Should have known then it would be an issue. According to the buyer she flat out told them she didnít want Hispanics as neighbors. So Iím fairly certain itís a race issue lol. No HOA.
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Old 03-18-2019, 05:06 PM
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I'm so glad my next door neighbor moved away before I wanted to sell my place. What a pack of egotistical, self-centered creeps they were. But, between the multiple DUI convictions and the foreclosure sale, we are rid of them.
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Old 03-18-2019, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 20biminitwist View Post
Your buyer and neighbor are both idiots. Neither can control a legal sale of a home or should let someone for what ever reason make that decision. If someone moves in next to me I don't like I just burn them out in THT style.

I would also tell my neighbor to F off and let them wait to see who has the next offer in.

Is the neighbor why your moving?
We arenít moving because of them. Since having a child we just quickly outgrew our starter house and had an opportunity to build in a new development we liked. Granted giving these developments Iím glad we left. I donít want to raise kids next
to people that thing that is acceptable.
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Old 03-18-2019, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jtav2002 View Post
Yea theyíre getting it back. Iím not going to screw someone out of
money because of racist neighbors.
dont hold their deposit hostage, but use the return of it to have a good faith conversation with them regarding wether they would be willing to testify. Perhaps with your or their realtor, over a cup of coffee or beer.
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Old 03-18-2019, 05:18 PM
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Are you 100% sure the neighbor is a racist asshole or could the buyer be less than truthful? Iíve seen people lie when they want to exit a lease/sale/whatever contract...
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Old 03-18-2019, 05:24 PM
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That sucks man, congrats on the little one. Congrats on the new house. Hope things work out. See you at the beach.
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Old 03-18-2019, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by houtxfisher View Post
Are you 100% sure the neighbor is a racist asshole or could the buyer be less than truthful? Iíve seen people lie when they want to exit a lease/sale/whatever contract...
Obviously anything is possible. Iím not surprised this woman has these views and threatening to call the cops is her usual immediate go to when sheís being nosey in the neighborhood. But again, obviously itís the buyers word against hers.
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Old 03-18-2019, 05:40 PM
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FWIW, we never put a for sale sign in the yard. Ever. You've experienced one reason why but there are others. People look at the MLS for listings and that's normally where your buyers are coming from. We use an internet broker and pay buyer's agents well..... they deserve it. I even had one agent call frantically because the buyers didn't see a sign "after they had viewed the property." I assured her it was still available and told her we just don't use signs. Same with rental signs. I found early on that yard signs really just tell neighbors and busy-bodies what's going on and attract lookie-Lou's. Serious "retail" buyers usually need guidance and go to realtors to represent their interest.
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Old 03-18-2019, 05:44 PM
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FWIW, we never put a for sale sign in the yard. Ever. You've experienced one reason why but there are others. People look at the MLS for listings and that's normally where your buyers are coming from. We use an internet broker and pay buyer's agents well..... they deserve it. I even had one agent call frantically because the buyers didn't see a sign "after they had viewed the property." I assured her it was still available and told her we just don't use signs. Same with rental signs. I found early on that yard signs really just tell neighbors and busy-bodies what's going on and attract lookie-Lou's. Serious "retail" buyers usually need guidance and go to realtors to represent their interest.
The buyers had a realtor who took them through the property prior to putting an offer on. They came back to take another gander themselves after they had put an offer in. The next door neighbor knew we had moved and were selling. I could certainly see the benefits of not using a sign. It just wouldnít have made a difference in this situation.
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If she was calling out the fact that they were Hispanic to your wife via text, I'd tend to believe their story.
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Old 03-18-2019, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by jtav2002 View Post

The buyers had a realtor who took them through the property prior to putting an offer on. They came back to take another gander themselves after they had put an offer in. The next door neighbor knew we had moved and were selling. I could certainly see the benefits of not using a sign. It just wouldnít have made a difference in this situation.
Actually you've hit on something that very few people understand. Once these people have looked and are interested, they "always" drive by over and over. They even tell friends and family about the place who also "drive by." That's precisely why we keep everything absolutely as perfect as possible till' the sale is complete. Often sellers quit mowing grass, trimming, etc.. We do the opposite so by the time we close they're literally at the property within the hour. I'm always amazed at how many sellers literally stop working on the property once it's under contract....literally the most critical time to keep the deal going.
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Old 03-18-2019, 05:56 PM
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If I was "sure enough" that the neighbor did what was said , I think I'd have a one on one with her . Nice and calm , but she'd be told in no uncertain terms that if she harassed another potential buyer she'd be hearing from an attorney .
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Originally Posted by fireisland1 View Post


why is the buyer an idiot. They did not know the situation and when confronted they bailed. They seen smart. There are plenty of houses to buy
re-read what you quoted........
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Old 03-18-2019, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by fireisland1 View Post


why is the buyer an idiot. They did not know the situation and when confronted they bailed. They seen smart. There are plenty of houses to buy
The bottom line is not a single neighbor wants the unknown despite color or beliefs. They are fools for running and the neighbor is a fool for doing what they did. New neighbors are seldom welcomed in most places as they aren't known to the neighbors..

The OP said they are Hispanic. Unless they move into a Hispanic area they are going to get the same response "maybe" one way or the other and anyone could call it racist or what ever. It is what it is but I have dealt with this. The most common looking people in the world moved in on the 2 acres next to me. Biggest idiot's I have ever met and do something each and every day that makes me scratch my head. My neighbor to the left of me has the keys to my house and I do to his. He hated seeing me move in because I was unknown to him at the time and we are both red necks. We are family like now.

I'm glad the OP is getting to move as it sounds like he was living next to an asshole.
You can sue for that I suppose but that would make you an asshole as well.

The OP's neighbor probably could do all sorts of shit to diminish his property value in short order without ever saying a word to a potential buyer. If the idiots next to me on the one side try to sell I'm gonna mow their grass and cook the potential buyers the best BBQ they ever had!
My luck, it would be some Yankee coming to fix the way I live!
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Old 03-18-2019, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by jtav2002 View Post
The neighbor had been messaging my wife when she saw people viewing the house and made a comment of really liking the one couple. The only ones she really had anything in detail to say about any of them was her telling my wife that “some Hispanics wre
going through the house now.” Should have known then it would be an issue. According to the buyer she flat out told them she didn’t want Hispanics as neighbors. So I’m fairly certain it’s a race issue lol. No HOA.
Tell her that she can buy the house and sell it to whoever she wants to.

Ask for an affidavit from the previous buyers in order to get their deposit back. Then talk to a realtor or lawyer and see if she has indeed violated any laws or caused damages that you can sue for. If she did, take the signed affidavit and tell her that if she opens her mouth again, you will be pursuing criminal/civil charges.
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What did she do that is illegal? I get making threats will cross the line, but if she's just being a racist asshole what's the offense?
Threatening to call law enforcement and file a false report based off of race is a good start.
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Threatening to call law enforcement and file a false report based off of race is a good start.
The conjecture in this thread is strong, "threatening" to file a "false report" - who does that?
Secondly, even if the neighbor flat out told any perspective Mexicans, Latinos, Hispanics, etc... they do not like Hispanics, and do not like living next to them -
Is this opinion not freedom of speech? Being a bigot is not illegal that I am aware of. Thirdly, I don't think a neighbor would be successful in recovering damages against another neighbor because what is your standing? The neighbors do not have any fiduciary obligation to you, nor are they barred from their first amendment rights just because it may offend a potential buyer. The first amendment is not about protecting popular opinions/beliefs, those need no protection. I agree it is a crappy position and I wouldn't want to live near her either IF this is true, but I don't see that speaking ones belief would incur liability. I'm not a lawyer, but the guys at Westboro Baptist seem to get away with some unpopular beliefs that have been upheld as being constitutionally protected. The fair housing act does not apply to neighbors who are not a party to the transaction unless I am mistaken.
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Keep the house as an investment property and rent it out for Quinsineras and Cinco de Mayo parties
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The buyers had a realtor who took them through the property prior to putting an offer on. They came back to take another gander themselves after they had put an offer in. The next door neighbor knew we had moved and were selling. I could certainly see the benefits of not using a sign. It just wouldn’t have made a difference in this situation.
Did you ACCEPT the offer - if so, you have a CONTRACT. But, in this situation, I think you are realizing the buyers need to get out of this. Get the agent to return the deposit (they will probably be looking for an "out" anyway - and probably SHOULD!). Cancel the contract. ASK them if they will testify against the bitch - HOME (Housing Opportunities Made Equal) would probably have a FIELD DAY with her! They could even bring in Rev. Al! Seriously, the agent brought you a willing and able BUYER, so they (agent) SHOULD expect to get something out of it. Sue that lady 'til it HURTS - to get the agent's commission, your "loss" of a sale, pain and suffering, and probably violation of a couple of Federal laws!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe she'll have to sell the house to pay the legal fees! Then, the buyers can move in.

If you have a good agent, they may even chalk it up to a "bad day" and not want to go after commission, but that bitch should SUFFER ($$$$$'s) for her idiotic confrontation!

Keep us posted - we may have to bring in "Big Al" to straighten this out! And you DON'T want "Big Al" to get upset!

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Keep the house as an investment property and rent it out for Quinsineras and Cinco de Mayo parties
He might of hit on something here , tell her if you can't sell it soon you will have to turn into a rental . I'm certain she'll shut the hell up
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