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Old 03-17-2019, 03:43 PM
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Woman harassing Fisherman !!!


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Old 03-17-2019, 03:55 PM
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Join us on Saturday 23 March 9 Am On the water as we descend on her ...

The address is : 12870 Sr. A1A Vero Beach, FL 32963
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Old 03-17-2019, 04:02 PM
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If she does indeed own riparian rights, he would technically be trespassing IF he anchored, AND the property is so posted. The water ABOVE the bottom? STATE WATERS. For ALL to use!

Wonder how long she’s been here from NJ?
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I didn't watch all of that. However, I will say that I have seen property within water areas. Not sure if you have checked the parcel assesser's office, but I'd make sure before you make an event out of it. I am not familiar with the laws to know who has what rights.
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I'm on your side but I'm not sure calling for others to harass her is the way to go. In this video you are doing nothing wrong but will you have control over those you are calling to action? Will you be responsible or blamed if something goes sideways? I see the potential for violence if she points that hose at the wrong tough guy.
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Old 03-17-2019, 04:14 PM
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Is that south of Sebastian inlet on the east shoreline?
if so, I had some run ins with those people too.
Not that particular chick, but others in the area
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Not sure where this was, but fishing is legal in saltwater anywhere past the low mean tide line although rarely needed to be enforced. Even if he anchors past that line he is legal in Florida. ties to one of my piers or boathouse, that changes, but he does not appear tied to anything.
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God damn that is the personification of the miserable jerkoffs I’m largely surrounded by!
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Old 03-17-2019, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Still Stoked View Post
If she does indeed own riparian rights, he would technically be trespassing IF he anchored, AND the property is so posted. The water ABOVE the bottom? STATE WATERS. For ALL to use!

Wonder how long she’s been here from NJ?
Wrong in florida. The STATE owns the water. You can't tie up to the dock or prevent the upland property owner from using the dock, but the water (submerged land) is indeed public.

You do not "own" riparian rights. Unless she has a submerged land lease with the state, she has no control over the USE of the water.
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Originally Posted by Tommysmicroskiff View Post
Join us on Saturday 23 March 9 Am On the water as we descend on her ...

The address is : 12870 Sr. A1A Vero Beach, FL 32963
definitely show up guys... Ill be there
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Old 03-17-2019, 07:49 PM
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definitely show up guys... Ill be there
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Old 03-17-2019, 08:26 PM
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There does appear to be some ownership of this area...per tax assessor records.

The address posted looks to be the only parcel without ownership going out into the water.





Address posted above.

Owned property boundaries per tax assessor website.
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Old 03-17-2019, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by billinstuart View Post
Wrong in florida. The STATE owns the water. You can't tie up to the dock or prevent the upland property owner from using the dock, but the water (submerged land) is indeed public.

You do not "own" riparian rights. Unless she has a submerged land lease with the state, she has no control over the USE of the water.
You contradicted yourself. You said wrong, but proceeded to confirm my post.

Bottom line,No touch bottom, no issues whatsoever. Period.
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Originally Posted by Still Stoked View Post

You contradicted yourself. You said wrong, but proceeded to confirm my post.

Bottom line,No touch bottom, no issues whatsoever. Period.
You are exactly correct. You cannot touch the submerged land without trespassing. That is the law. I should know because I own the same thing, pay taxes on it, and it does come with some rights. But as far as I know, the state no longer sells more submerged land. And by the way, do not trust the tax accessor's land use diagrams for submerged land. Some are wildly inaccurate. She may actually own it. Ask me how I know ;-)
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Going there, to harass her, would be a bigger display of ignorance.
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Old 03-18-2019, 05:18 AM
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Underwater leases are purchased by commercial businesses. You cannot operate a business on a simple "riparian rights" basis.

Riparian rights extend to the thread of the stream, or the channel. There ARE some areas of the state where natural underwater land is privately owned, but It's NOT real common. Most of it is on the west coast. But, the graphic shown is interesting and NOT consistent with typical ownership along the Indian River. Man-made waters, different issue.

Ive been involved with a Riparian lawsuit. I learned WAY more than I really wanted to know.

For clarification, underwater ownership is NOT automatic..it must be in the deed, and pre-date a certain time. Otherwise, the state owns it. They let you USE the land in a riparian issue, but anyone can use the water above it.
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Ahh no it's not .... LoL


Going there, to harass her, would be a bigger display of ignorance.
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Oh I would like to welcome Tony to THT ;-)

he shot the video ...
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i think you should start throwing a bunch of chips and bait on her dock! in no time at all, seagulls and pelicans will have her dock covered in so much shit, she wont be able to be on the dock!
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