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Old 03-16-2019, 09:14 PM
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One of my buddyís that Iíve been friends with since high school has a son that wants to go to a local art school. Sure he has some artistic capability but itís not anything I would spend more than $200 for. I pleaded with the son and my buddy to choose a different career. The son isnít having it because all the high school art teachers told him he has a future in it, and told my buddy the same thing. FAKE NEWS! My buddy is now about to spend 100k for a useless education and is giddy about it. Ugh now iím just a dick when i can see the apocalypse coming.
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I feel your angst. Nothing you say will help either their plan or your relationship with your buddy. This is like watching a slo-mo NASCAR collision.
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You've voiced your opinion, now butt out.....it's not your life and it's not you money.
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Art is useless but so long as he spends HIS money and doesn't get student loans that he will ultimately not be able to pay back and it becomes the taxpayer's problem...then whatever.

It's a stupid thing to pay 100k for.
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100k to learn how to paint pictures? Maybe graphic arts or advertising would be a better use of his talent and actually offer a solid career?
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Old 03-16-2019, 09:57 PM
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You've voiced your opinion, now butt out.....it's not your life and it's not you money.
Garett. youíre somthing special, a hybrid of the wise sage and captain obvious. There is a shortage of organic maple syrup in my area maybe you should be tending to your tree vs posting on here aye.
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I've worked with many fine art majors that make 6 fig's and more a year. I'm not saying his teachers are trustworthy evaluate'rs of his talent...
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Your intentions are well placed and your likely correct that this art ed will never pay off. However one of the rule of life, NEVER point out a kids limitations to the parents. Only thing worse is to disparage their dog.
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Originally Posted by Petemurph View Post
One of my buddy’s that I’ve been friends with since high school has a son that wants to go to a local art school. Sure he has some artistic capability but it’s not anything I would spend more than $200 for. I pleaded with the son and my buddy to choose a different career. The son isn’t having it because all the high school art teachers told him he has a future in it, and told my buddy the same thing. FAKE NEWS! My buddy is now about to spend 100k for a useless education and is giddy about it. Ugh now i’m just a dick when i can see the apocalypse coming.
Maybe you have no taste in art........
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You've voiced your opinion, now butt out.....it's not your life and it's not you money.
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Old 03-17-2019, 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Petemurph View Post
One of my buddyís that Iíve been friends with since high school has a son that wants to go to a local art school. Sure he has some artistic capability but itís not anything I would spend more than $200 for. I pleaded with the son and my buddy to choose a different career. The son isnít having it because all the high school art teachers told him he has a future in it, and told my buddy the same thing. FAKE NEWS! My buddy is now about to spend 100k for a useless education and is giddy about it. Ugh now iím just a dick when i can see the apocalypse coming.
You're probably right about the outcome, but your totally wrong pleading with them that the kid chose another career.
When it comes to others peoples kids, you need to butt out. This coming from someone who doesn't have kids.
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Old 03-17-2019, 04:31 AM
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If he gets a degree in graphic design or industrial design, those are pretty good jobs.
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Originally Posted by Petemurph View Post
One of my buddy’s that I’ve been friends with since high school has a son that wants to go to a local art school. Sure he has some artistic capability but it’s not anything I would spend more than $200 for. I pleaded with the son and my buddy to choose a different career. The son isn’t having it because all the high school art teachers told him he has a future in it, and told my buddy the same thing. FAKE NEWS! My buddy is now about to spend 100k for a useless education and is giddy about it. Ugh now i’m just a dick when i can see the apocalypse coming.
I heard the same "apocalypse" forecast from many people just like yourself when my daughter was accepted to Boston University for Fine Arts (over 60k per year). We were a bit nervous but we trusted in her passion and knew she would find a way. For the record, at that time, I also probably would not have purchased her art work for any meaningful amount of $$. Fast forward ...She graduated 2 years ago & has a great job (that she loves) making 70k to start. She isn't making a living selling paintings (most artists don't) but she is working in her industry making art and working with artists. I guess it depends on the Kid, but I believe you can make it in any industry if you work hard and you are passionate about your work.
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Old 03-17-2019, 05:05 AM
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Itís an education... thatís fine.

what really matters is what direction he takes with his level of motivation and social networks.

plently of people never did or no longer work in the field of their degree.

i do believe that comes at a cost to earnings potential but hey I wouldnít stop a kid from being pro-active ever, even if the idea is stupid to me.
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Old 03-17-2019, 05:17 AM
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Lots of careers in art if you look for them. My sister is involved with designing beer can graphics. She is on the science/technical side of color matching. Company wife they have a dozen or so folks that do that. All make huge $. For every one of them are a dozen or more artists converting customer renderings to finished designs that are printable. They donít make the $ the technical folks do, but they do well.

Hopefully his professors know digital and industrial art where the bulk of the market is currently and adjust education priorities accordingly, however I wouldnít say it is a useless major in the right hands. Would also be good if he gets some business clssses as background. For instance many communities have large art museums. Would be good for the curator to at least know how to read a balance sheet.
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It's becoming an excellent career path. Once we have guaranteed minimum income, we will all have time for the arts, philosophy, and other BS. He will make the "village" a better place.
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2 of the most successful software engineers started as art majors.
Creativity should never be squashed.
Creative people think a bit different than engineers, combine them and amazing things can happen.

Art degree @100k is pricey, but open minds and good career choices can prevail.
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A friend of mineís daughter got an art degree about 5 years ago. Sheís now back at school getting a bachelors in accounting. I havenít asked whoís paying for it.
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His parent's basement will have a lot of art.
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Old 03-17-2019, 05:38 AM
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I like to think of art as having two seperate characteristics. Commercial art like graphic design, interior design etc that there could be money to be made for talented driven artists. Then there is the Emotional Arts for painting and sculpting, etc. Those should be hobbies IMO. I worry about the amount of student debt used in worthless degrees that at some point we all will be paying for...
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