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Why the scramble to remove the video of the killings?

Old 03-15-2019, 06:22 AM
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Question Why the scramble to remove the video of the killings?

I debated posting this... and I can see that there are different positions. If it were someone in my family, do I want the video all over? I don't know. Perhaps I do -- as a reminder of the lack of humanity we have arrived at. Do I really want it swept under the rug like it never existed? Think about the holocaust -- there are billions of pictures of the bodies in piles wearing the striped outfits, etc. We don't move to strike that, do we?

You could argue the "copy cat" angle -- again, I point to all the other incidents.

I'm not sure what is worse - the event - or the fact that we want to control what aspects of the event are reported.

What are your thoughts as to the desire of the scrubbing of the video?
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Old 03-15-2019, 06:51 AM
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If I understand it right, It was taken by the shooter or one of the accomplishes. If so, he wanted the publicity and it needs to be removed immediately. Don't give them the satisfaction.
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Old 03-15-2019, 06:58 AM
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I'm all for reporting the news, but refusing to name or glorify the killers in any way. The only time the news should broadcast names or photos of the killers is if they are not in custody.
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Old 03-15-2019, 07:00 AM
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Obviously the incident is worse than the trying to hide the video. Randomly shooting up a place full of human beings is about as bad as it gets for humanity I understand the sentiment of your post though.
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Interesting... not sure I thought about it like that.
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Old 03-15-2019, 07:39 AM
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Publicity and screen time is bad. Showing the incident perpetrated is exactly what many of the rat shit crazy bastards want. How much 'cooler' does it make it knowing the world is seeing what you did, and you are a household name.

Also, this guy was, unfortunately, very successful. Any insight any future shooters can glean as to why from that video is a bad thing.

Also, the families of those involved, and anyone affected by this shooting don't need the extra trauma.
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Old 03-15-2019, 08:01 AM
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This shooter, like pretty much like all those before him have no value for human life, even their own. They value notoriety more than their very lives. That's why this guy had the names and locations of other mass shooters written all over his gear and guns. One of the best ways to take away their motivation is to take away their notoriety. Their names should never be mentioned, their acts vilified for being what they are. You want psycho's not doing these things? Take away the one thing that motivates them.
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Old 03-15-2019, 08:05 AM
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I would vote for a video of the perpetrator drawn and quartered, broadcast everywhere.
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Old 03-15-2019, 08:10 AM
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They should not even use the name nor show the events. We should know by now that these wackjobs want to be the trainers of the next crazy bastards. They should just say they were caught and never speak of them again. Do we really want you tube training videos on mass murder? It is becoming to normal.JMO.
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Old 03-15-2019, 08:12 AM
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Well, I unfortunately saw the video. No I am not linking anyone to it.

It opens up with the guy driving to the mosque. He gets to the doorway and blasts the people standing in it from about 5 yards away with a 12 ga auto shotgun (looked like a Benelli tactical). From there it's him semi-systematically going through the halls blasting people with an AR15. This includes finishing people off on the ground at point blank range.

Many reasons why the video is being removed:

1) FB, Twitter, and Liveleak don't want that sort of publicity nor to be a venue in which this sort of thing is displayed.
2) Gives notoriety and intel for any future scumbags looking to do the same.
3) None of the family of the deceased wants their loved ones last desperate moments out on the internet for those to see.

That's just a few.

Why would I watch such a video? Well, I think it's important in the world we live in today. Simply reading about these things on the news doesn't really "bring it home." You need to watch it, be aware, and learn from it. It sucked. It was horrible to see. However, you need to understand what's going on here and how to react in these situations god forbid it ever comes to your life. Let the emotions you experience from the video come forth and realize them. Deal with them now because God forbid you ever are in that situation of those poor people, be ready to react.

Once again, it's pretty bad. We need to learn from it though and be aware that unfortunately, evil people like the gunman do exist and we need to heighten our situational awareness.
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Old 03-15-2019, 08:34 AM
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A firefighter/EMT fishing buddy once watched one of the Islamic beheadings that was broadcast.

"I wish I had never watched it. It's in my memory now and I can never UN watch it."

This guy shot a lady on the street and then ran over her.

He did not kill himself as he demands a Trial where he will plead Innocent. I hope the NZ authorities have a trial behind closed doors with total secrecy.

They do not believe in the death penalty which would have been too good for this guy. Lock him up with NZ criminals who love their country (he's Aussie) and then he can have a nice tortured life. With the NZ guards turning a blind eye to him........
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Old 03-15-2019, 08:52 AM
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Once something gets out on the internet, it will be somewhere in cyber space forever.
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Originally Posted by Gary M View Post
A firefighter/EMT fishing buddy once watched one of the Islamic beheadings that was broadcast.

"I wish I had never watched it. It's in my memory now and I can never UN watch it."..
About 15 years ago I remember walking into another IT company office...(competitors of ours)..and a couple of their techs were hunched over a big (for that time) monitor..."oohing" and stuff. I walked up and looked right over their shoulder..and it was the beheading of one of our journalist guys...possibly same one your buddy saw. I "think" his name was Terry something. Slightly bearded. I remember it seemed like they were slicing through his throat with what appeared to be a large very dull knife...about as dull as a butterknife..they had to work hard at it for a while. In the meantime..you could hear the muffled screams of the guy..and as soon as the knife was through the throat (trachia)..the sounds changed to a very gurgled sound.

Just one of those things I made the mistake of ...kept watching. I get the eebie jeebies just typing about it here as my memory recalls the site and sound.

Seen another video once of a motorcycle accident in Asia...guy was partially torn in half, but still alive and trying to move himself via his arms.."front wheel drive style"...as his torn mid body stretched and you could see his organs slowly spilling out.

Nothing worse than hearing scream of death...about 25 years ago, accident on the New London Bridge...car burned up with dude inside...can never unhear that.

I won't be looking at the usual spots for these videos.
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Old 03-15-2019, 10:41 AM
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I would think the removal of the video is to deter future wacko's from duplicating the event in a Mosque near you. Especially if the wacko is an impressionable kid who thinks getting famous on the internet entails such activity. While it won't deter all the wackjobs out there contemplating such activity, it may stop one from re-occurring.
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Old 03-15-2019, 10:59 AM
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Lots of reasons to pull it. Frankly, there are many things I'd rather not see.
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Old 03-15-2019, 12:08 PM
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I heard it was out on FB live. I can see why, assuming FB doesn't have an age restriction warning thing, they wouldn't want it on there.

Plenty of other places to search out that kind of gore, and worse, if that's what someone wants but FB isn't trying to be that site.
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Old 03-15-2019, 01:09 PM
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I came on THT to make a post regarding the shooting as I just watched the video. I’m glad you made this post....

It’s beyond scary to believe people actually go out of their way to kill another human over their beliefs. I was disgusted to see his mentality and how he described the shooting saying “it didn’t go as planned”. I searched 8chan which is apparently a website he was on and there was a thread on the shooting. First thing I see is everyone, when I say everyone I mean literally everyone, making jokes on the deaths. It was a game of literal snowflakes trying to see who had the “funniest” jokes. I praise the one man in the video trying to fight the shooter while everyone else hid in the corner. He sacrificed himself to save his family. Something this guy would never do besides sacrificing himself to express his islamiphobic beliefs.

This video belongs no where on the internet and it’s going to encourage lots of other religious shootings for sure. This has put a lot of tension on religions right now and it’s very sensitive that they should be removed but it’s already to late. I just needed to vent this out, prayers to those who suffered.
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Old 03-15-2019, 01:13 PM
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I saw it as well. It is heartbreaking. Pure evil.
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Old 03-15-2019, 01:14 PM
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This thread, and ones like it, give the killer the publicity that they were seeking also.

Are there not enough sites that reference what happened that it doesn't need to be posted on a boat forum?

Of course some people have to post everything, like this is a the water cooler.
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Old 03-15-2019, 01:18 PM
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Pretty bad video. I saw it, it's out there if you know where to look on the interwebs.
Wild he did all that than got in his car and just drove off. Only one person attempted to escape and he was shot down quick in the hall.
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