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Old 03-12-2019, 10:12 AM
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Keep in mind, this is just the ONE we know about . . .
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Old 03-12-2019, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Locke N Load View Post
I feel bad for the kids. Assuming it is correct they were not aware of the scheme. No one will give them any credit for being there. I guess it does not matter. Most are probably there for their communications degree for something to do and keep mommy and daddy happy. Once they graduate they will be spoiled rich kids going on vacations and out to eat and the beach and shopping, but with a paid for diploma.
this is also true. I have a friend who works at a exclusive high school (42k per year). Only 60% of them go to college strait from high school. Many go travel for a year, many will never have to work.
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and this all comes to a shocking surprise?
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Old 03-12-2019, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by chrispnet View Post
I will add...there is an amazing amount of money handed out by grad programs, law schools and medical schools.
My kid just went through the process, got money from 3 T14 law schools, full tuition rides from two top 30s.
I had no idea how heavily the schools compete to get kids that elevate their institution's ratings.

She had perfect grades at UVA McIntire school (as in 4.0), graduated in 2017 with double major in Accounting and History, passed the CPA exams first go around last year, interned and works at PWC.
Slacker millenial.
Her objective was to go to law school all along.
She put in the effort, and depending which law school she chooses (UVA I imagine since she loves it and they are paying a good chunk of the tuition), will come out the other side having saved me serious coin.
Hundreds of thousands.

The moral is that state schools can be done in a cost effective way, and grad schools hand out money.
**She was accepted at Princeton and Georgetown for undergrad, but chose UVA. God Bless her!!!!
Congrats for raising an outstanding kid! Truly, God bless her, and He already has.
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Old 03-12-2019, 10:32 AM
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This kinda stuff has been going on for years and always will. Money opens a lot of doors. Have a close friend of mine that was accepted to an Ivy League school off a phone call. Someone in his mother's family had left a very large annual endowment. It was always understood that he was going to go there but he maintains to this day he never even filled out an application, was never a great student and was absolutely never in any danger of flunking out.
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Old 03-12-2019, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Locke N Load View Post
I feel bad for the kids. Assuming it is correct they were not aware of the scheme. No one will give them any credit for being there. I guess it does not matter. Most are probably there for their communications degree for something to do and keep mommy and daddy happy. Once they graduate they will be spoiled rich kids going on vacations and out to eat and the beach and shopping, but with a paid for diploma.
If you read the charges against the parents, i think there is little or no doubt the kids had SOME idea something weird was going on with their testing and applications.........they may not have know how brazen it was, but the kids were all getting "extra time" to take the tests, were flying to other cities to take the tests at private test centers, were getting weird letters about getting admitted based on "contributing to the sports programs at USC", when they didnt even play sports, etc. The kids were not purely innocent bystanders...they knew their parents were pulling strings to get them in.....the only thing debatable is how MUCH they knew.

I can tell you that if my two kids, who have good enough grades/scores to have gotten admitted into top30 universities, had suddenly had gotten accepted by Yale or Stamford with reference to rowing crew, or had flown to LA to take their test and magically gotten another 200 pts, vs the last test they took, they would have known something was up.......
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Old 03-12-2019, 10:37 AM
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I saw an article today about Penn's (former) basketball coach taking $300,000 to recruit some rich kid.
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Old 03-12-2019, 10:38 AM
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I honestly thought this was well known and just unspoken. Kinda like everyone saying men and women are the same - we all know they are not the same, but we play along.
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Old 03-12-2019, 10:39 AM
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Wow. Rich people beating the system with $$$ Who wudda thought? ;-)
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Old 03-12-2019, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Boat Hound View Post
I honestly thought this was well known and just unspoken. Kinda like everyone saying men and women are the same - we all know they are not the same, but we play along.

Ding! Yup, its been going on for many many years. Just finally caught to some, happens everywhere.......slide a person enough money and anything can happen.
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Old 03-12-2019, 10:42 AM
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I'm willing to bet some of those who paid to play are also supporters of candidates spouting the "free college for all" mantra....gotta love the hypocrisy of that!
Hey, look at that, maybe this higher education really is working, it took all the way until post #6 until someone made this thread political.
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Old 03-12-2019, 10:44 AM
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I hate what college has become. I have a daughter heading to college this year. I fear I will be paying for an inferior, over priced product at this point.
So don't pay. I know one guy who too the funds he saved, let his daughter roam around for a bit and then taught her how to start and run a business. She is doing quite well. Don't ever let school get in the way of a good education....
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Aunt Becky is in big trouble - gave a USC Crew Coach $500k and her kid doesn't row
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Old 03-12-2019, 10:56 AM
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Hell who cares about the money? Give me about three hours alone with Aunt Becky and I would have signed off on her brats going to astronaut training!!!


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Old 03-12-2019, 10:58 AM
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I don't see why it is ok to buy a building to get your kid in, but not just give money to do so. Is it because the school is getting cut out?

Here is a great website that ranks colleges based on what they require to graduate, and how that applies to being evidence of learning something. What Will They Learn? - A guide to what college rankings don't tell you about core curriculum requirements Pretty interesting where the high dollar schools ended up.
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Originally Posted by txhedg View Post
$100K for a bachelors? Not at any top tier school unless you are in-state VA/TX/CA/MI/NC and can get into their flagship state U. I'm in for about $300k for each of my kids' degrees.
Not hard to do. She could go to a CC for 2 years (about 5k per year) and enter UVa as a junior in the guaranteed admission program for a bachelors. UVa about $31k per year in state. The ROI of a bachelors at $300k is not very good.
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Originally Posted by GWcpa View Post
I hate what college has become. I have a daughter heading to college this year. I fear I will be paying for an inferior, over priced product at this point.
Same here. Keeps me up at night.
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Old 03-12-2019, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by txhedg View Post
$100K for a bachelors? Not at any top tier school unless you are in-state VA/TX/CA/MI/NC and can get into their flagship state U. I'm in for about $300k for each of my kids' degrees.
how is $300k even remotely worth it for a BA?
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Old 03-12-2019, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by txhedg View Post
I'm willing to bet some of those who paid to play are also supporters of candidates spouting the "free college for all" mantra....gotta love the hypocrisy of that!
I'm willing to bet most of those who paid are supporters of zero regulations of the financial sector, support massive cuts to education funding, and could care less about free college for all. And what does supporting free college have to do with a willingness to pay an crazy amount to get your kind into a college? You don't think someone could support universal health care and be willing to pay for the best heart surgeon?
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Originally Posted by uncljohn View Post
I'm willing to bet most of those who paid are supporters of zero regulations of the financial sector, support massive cuts to education funding, and could care less about free college for all. And what does supporting free college have to do with a willingness to pay an crazy amount to get your kind into a college? You don't think someone could support universal health care and be willing to pay for the best heart surgeon?
Take this crap somewhere else please. So tired of everything degrading into "but yeah, what about....!" No one cares.
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