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Old 03-09-2019, 06:17 PM
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I use to be a consultant doing environmental work, permitting, Greenway and trail planning and other stuff. I worked my way through college, twice earning degrees at UCF and FSU. I now own some vacation rentals and two retail chocolate stores in the Smoky Mountains. I have 3 kids from ages 22 to 18. My middle kid had meningitis at 24 days old. It nearly killed him and left him severely disabled.

My wife was an executive assistant to the 2nd in command at then Sunshine Network in Orlando. She was also the ticket and events coordinator. She made good money. After Kyle was born and had the stroke, she quit. She took a night job waitressing tables at Sonny's BBQ. I was offered by my boss to clean our offices at night once a week. I was likely one of the few custodial engineers in Orlando with a master's degree. We did what needed to be done.

I have employees and yes our business is retail and all but I have a few millenial employees, with my daughter of all people, who just suck sometimes with their work ethic and attitude. We had one girl not make her shift today and my daughter was supposed to get off at 1. She was getting all pissy and said to us, you know mom this is not how mellenials work. My wife said, you know we don't give a crap about how mellenials work, this is our business and this is how we work. We laid the law down.

I honestly don't get the crappy work ethic of these kids, my daughter included. I didn't teach her she was entitled to jack. Yet, there she is with this entitled attitude. When I was her age, I was working two jobs going to college. Fortunately, my youngest son has a work ethic. I look at my kids generation and think how badly we failed a lot of young people. It's systemic I think due to social media and such.

I could be wrong here, but have you guys noticed this too?
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Old 03-09-2019, 06:23 PM
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Yes, and I hate them. I can't believe your daughter would actually say that to you with a straight face. I might would have lost my shit and fired her on the spot just to prove a point.
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Old 03-09-2019, 06:27 PM
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All four of my engineers are millennials and they work like dogs. In at 7, leave at 6.
I had one leave for a new opportunity last summer. His last day he worked 13 hours to see if a project he was working on was finally going to work.
A friend of mine is in that millennial category. She's pretty materialistic, but is dedicated to her job. Likes to travel and complains when work throttles travel due to costs, but keeps at it.

That said I've seen some slackers, but I see more hard workers than total slouches.
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Old 03-09-2019, 06:32 PM
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Old 03-09-2019, 06:44 PM
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My company is big on hiring new grads, which I guess would make them Millennials. Bachelor to Master degrees mostly, with some PhD worked in. Also lots of interns ranging in age from 19 to 21.

I've found them to be some of the hardest working people I've met. Sometimes a little too ambitious and I have to put the brakes on and talk them thru the process of analyzing an action before they proceed to make sure they understand all of the possible (good and bad) outcomes.

I had a lot of negative experiences with Millennials in the past, but my opinion has changed drastically since I started working there in July.

In the past I feared for our future. Now I'm happy to be working with them and I actually enjoy learning things from them.

Every generation has had their good and bad. You're just basing your opinion on the bad you've been exposed to so far.
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Old 03-09-2019, 06:51 PM
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It's almost like if you pay someone more, they work more!

What do you pay an hour in the candy shop?
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Old 03-09-2019, 07:05 PM
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Lots of mellenials where I work (ER).....some are great....the big issue is their phone habit....we work 12 hr shifts, they are staring or texting on their phones for approximately 4 of their 12 hrs of their time, not kidding...seems like a large percent do the minimum to me...many of them do their tasks but actually dont care about their patients
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Old 03-09-2019, 07:13 PM
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Maybe Millennialís have it right.. work less and buy less shyt.. Oops pitchfork time..gotta run..

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I use to be a consultant doing environmental work, permitting, Greenway and trail planning and other stuff. I worked my way through college, twice earning degrees at UCF and FSU. I now own some vacation rentals and two retail chocolate stores in the Smoky Mountains. I have 3 kids from ages 22 to 18. My middle kid had meningitis at 24 days old. It nearly killed him and left him severely disabled.

My wife was an executive assistant to the 2nd in command at then Sunshine Network in Orlando. She was also the ticket and events coordinator. She made good money. After Kyle was born and had the stroke, she quit. She took a night job waitressing tables at Sonny's BBQ. I was offered by my boss to clean our offices at night once a week. I was likely one of the few custodial engineers in Orlando with a master's degree. We did what needed to be done.

I have employees and yes our business is retail and all but I have a few mellenial employees, with my daughter of all people, who just suck sometimes with their work ethic and attitude. We had one girl not make her shift today and my daughter was supposed to get off at 1. She was getting all pissy and said to us, you know mom this is not how mellenials work. My wife said, you know we don't give a crap about how mellenials work, this is our business and this is how we work. We laid the law down.

I honestly don't get the crappy work ethic of these kids, my daughter included. I didn't teach her she was entitled to jack. Yet, there she is with this entitled attitude. When I was her age, I was working two jobs going to college. Fortunately, my youngest son has a work ethic. I look at my kids generation and think how badly we failed a lot of young people. It's systemic I think due to social media and such.

I could be wrong here, but have you guys noticed this too?
Yeah, I've noticed it as well - about 30 years ago. I've seen slackers and go getters every year and all ages. I think maybe the difference is people are more willing to say they don't want to do what they don't want to do rather than eating it or hiding their slackitude (that's a new word you can use ). I've read many things about younger people wanting a better work/life balance. I can see that to a certain extent. Of course, that don't get $#!+ done.
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I don't think work ethic is super different than any other generation. There have always been, and always will be slackers, and those wanting to do the bare minimum. I will say the differences in the generation (currently age 22-37) are massive as far as differences in being raised in an analog vs digital world.
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Yeah there are some who suck but that's every generation. Most I've seen though just want to do the right thing. I talk to em every day and they seem to crave direction and want to do the right thing. Yeah they want to look at their phone but probably nine out of ten people who read your post do too.
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Count your blessings. Daughter could be protesting topless in pack square.
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Idk. I have hired (and fired) a fair amount from that demographic. I have seen millennials that are smart and work their ass off and others who, well not so much. When they do fit the stereotype, itís hilarious how spot on it is.

I have ave one Iím dealing with right now, who I want to punch in the throat. Guy is smart and hard working, just will take zero direction and is pissing everyone in the organization off. I told him to put some time on my calendar for his annual review on Friday. His response was no because he didnít see how that benefits him. It was 7:30 Friday night and I just didnít want to deal. The guy has a ton of potential, his attitude is just crap. Iím really on the fence on just letting him go tomorrow.
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Old 03-10-2019, 07:37 AM
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Idk. I have hired (and fired) a fair amount from that demographic. I have seen millennials that are smart and work their ass off and others who, well not so much. When they do fit the stereotype, itís hilarious how spot on it is.

I have ave one Iím dealing with right now, who I want to punch in the throat. Guy is smart and hard working, just will take zero direction and is pissing everyone in the organization off. I told him to put some time on my calendar for his annual review on Friday. His response was no because he didnít see how that benefits him. It was 7:30 Friday night and I just didnít want to deal. The guy has a ton of potential, his attitude is just crap. Iím really on the fence on just letting him go tomorrow.
Fire him now. That attitude has no place on a succesful team.
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Old 03-10-2019, 07:39 AM
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I have always taught my kids that you earn everything you get and that if someone is paying you to do a job (that you accepted), you do the best you can in the most reasonable time frame possible. My son is working full time in an office until he gets into graduate school. I dropped in to pay him a visit a few weeks ago and met one of the business owners. He said to me, " I wish I had about 10 more employees like your son, he is awesome". It made me proud of him and made me realize that the things I tried to teach him about working actually stuck. No offense but, a person's work ethic is generally learned at home.
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Idk. I have hired (and fired) a fair amount from that demographic. I have seen millennials that are smart and work their ass off and others who, well not so much. When they do fit the stereotype, itís hilarious how spot on it is.

I have ave one Iím dealing with right now, who I want to punch in the throat. Guy is smart and hard working, just will take zero direction and is pissing everyone in the organization off. I told him to put some time on my calendar for his annual review on Friday. His response was no because he didnít see how that benefits him. It was 7:30 Friday night and I just didnít want to deal. The guy has a ton of potential, his attitude is just crap. Iím really on the fence on just letting him go tomorrow.
How could you possibly be on the fence?
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Idk. I have hired (and fired) a fair amount from that demographic. I have seen millennials that are smart and work their ass off and others who, well not so much. When they do fit the stereotype, itís hilarious how spot on it is.

I have ave one Iím dealing with right now, who I want to punch in the throat. Guy is smart and hard working, just will take zero direction and is pissing everyone in the organization off. I told him to put some time on my calendar for his annual review on Friday. His response was no because he didnít see how that benefits him. It was 7:30 Friday night and I just didnít want to deal. The guy has a ton of potential, his attitude is just crap. Iím really on the fence on just letting him go tomorrow.
fire his ass in the rudest way possible. Tell him you normally give fired employees the benifit if clearly explaining their strengths and weaknesses but you donít see how that will benifit you. Go a step further and pack his stuff for him before he gets in on Monday and meet him at the door when he arrives with his Starbucks in hand.
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id like to offer some perspective from a reasonably successful millennial. Just like prior generations we were effected and molded by the socioeconomic climate of our parents. we saw our parents toil away working long hours at thankless jobs, we saw all those hours go down the tubes when the banks foreclosed on the homes of our parents because they valued a high dollar house over being reasonable. So to some point much of our generation does have a different view on the value of time and money. Much like coal workers kids want to goto college so they can avoid all the pitfalls of their parents profession, some millennials want less demanding jobs and less financial liability. You grew up in a world where if you wanted to goto a vacation house in the mountains on weekends, you worked your ass off and sacrificed in order to afford one, we are being raised in a time where if we want the same thing we pull up an app and for a few dollars get the same thing only without all the work/expense/liability of owning. So yes there is a difference in generations.

All that aside there is still a decent percentage of millennials that work their asses off to make that american dream a reality, only ours might be different than yours, which was different than your parents. I work 50-60 hours most weeks but when i have children in the near future i will be at all their games and take them fishing every weekend.
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