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Old 02-24-2019, 02:19 PM
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sitting here watching the cruise ships leave Port Everglades on the web cam (7 in a row out of 8 in port)

phone beeps that there is a message and there was no ring at all......and when I look there was no log at all of the call either

I have had it go right to beeping that there is a message before, but it always had the call log and I assumed that is what it did for a blocked number (although I thought a blocked number actually blocks them all together maybe I am wrong)

either way quite odd that somehow there was an actual message....if you are over 18 press 1 under press 2 to be on do not call (actually the call a shit tonne more) list press 3 and yet there is no log at all of the call on the phone

the log had the voice mail call and then a call from my mom and then other calls from well before that

perhaps I need to be the one to file a lawsuit against the telcos for letting this number spoofing and now apparently ghost calling crap go on
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Old 02-24-2019, 04:25 PM
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If you find a way to stop it please let the rest of the world know.....I get probably 20 calls a week ,,,I've gotten where If you're not in my contacts list I don't even answer, actually just leave the ringer off now most of the time
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Old 02-24-2019, 05:13 PM
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That is a new one. This has gone beyond annoying. The government needs to stop this crap. Phone rings all day long.
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Old 02-24-2019, 05:45 PM
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Companies are overseas, using VOIP and spoofing technology. Our business number was used for a while by them. Feds don’t have any control.
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Old 02-24-2019, 10:25 PM
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If you find a way to stop it please let the rest of the world know.....I get probably 20 calls a week ,,,I've gotten where If you're not in my contacts list I don't even answer, actually just leave the ringer off now most of the time

20 per week. I would gladly trade places with you. I get 10 to 20 a day. The most I have ever received in a day is 27.
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Old 02-25-2019, 04:07 AM
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If you are not already in my phone, you have to leave a message because I no longer answer calls.
It is ridiculous.
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Old 02-25-2019, 04:58 AM
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I have had the same thing happen. Or I get a No Caller ID but the 3 second voicemail with nothing on it had a number to block.

I would pay good money to block them for sure. Mine come in waves it seems. I will go weeks with only getting 1-3 a day and then a week where is is nonstop.

I would likely throw my phone away if I got 27 in a day. I like the ones that call my truck phone through OnStar. Hell, I don’t even have that number.
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Old 02-25-2019, 05:42 AM
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NoMo Robo. It is worth $20.

The feds and/or the telcos could stop this --IF they wanted to. Big IF
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Old 02-25-2019, 05:45 AM
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sitting here watching the cruise ships leave Port Everglades on the web cam (7 in a row out of 8 in port)

phone beeps that there is a message and there was no ring at all......and when I look there was no log at all of the call either

I have had it go right to beeping that there is a message before, but it always had the call log and I assumed that is what it did for a blocked number (although I thought a blocked number actually blocks them all together maybe I am wrong)

either way quite odd that somehow there was an actual message....if you are over 18 press 1 under press 2 to be on do not call (actually the call a shit tonne more) list press 3 and yet there is no log at all of the call on the phone

the log had the voice mail call and then a call from my mom and then other calls from well before that

perhaps I need to be the one to file a lawsuit against the telcos for letting this number spoofing and now apparently ghost calling crap go on
All it likely is that they called but your phone did not ring for whatever reason and they were transferred to voicemail. There could be many reasons why your phone didnt ring.

There are also some ways to leave a voicemail without a ring that have been around forever. However, I doubt they are doing that purposefully because it sounds like it was a call that just didnt go through.
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It seems to me that the ISP and the phone company's would or should know who is abusing us all. They never seem to be blamed for this. With technology what it is today you would think they can pinpoint these scumbags in a nano second. If so it might be a start, at this point I would even be in favor of them being forced to do so.
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Old 02-25-2019, 05:54 AM
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It seems to me that the ISP and the phone company's would or should know who is abusing us all. They never seem to be blamed for this. With technology what it is today you would think they can pinpoint these scumbags in a nano second. If so it might be a start, at this point I would even be in favor of them being forced to do so.
In some cases they do know (or have a good idea) but they are mostly located overseas in areas with zero jurisdiction

Only way to really fix is to overhaul the entire system which would be very difficult and costly
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In some cases they do know (or have a good idea) but they are mostly located overseas in areas with zero jurisdiction

Only way to really fix is to overhaul the entire system which would be very difficult and costly
Disagree.
if they can be located, they can be stopped or at least their life made difficult.
Telcos are not motivated to do anything about it....except get more revenue from the problem via offering some pay service that is not as good as nomo robo.
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I not only get them on my cell phone, but also at my business. probably 10 or so a day just at the business. I'll answer the phone thinking its a customer (customer name and number on caller ID) and its a robo call.. Very aggrevating.
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If you own a business and you get calls from all over it is more than frustrating...

I will almost never answer an incoming call unless there is a name that pops up on my screen.

When one of the assholes gets through to me I ask them if they know I am on the no call list.....means nothing to them.

I heard that one robocaller paid a 12 million dollar fine and was continuing to make calls and still has not stopped
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If you own a business and you get calls from all over it is more than frustrating...

I will almost never answer an incoming call unless there is a name that pops up on my screen.

When one of the assholes gets through to me I ask them if they know I am on the no call list.....means nothing to them.

I heard that one robocaller paid a 12 million dollar fine and was continuing to make calls and still has not stopped
there are differences between a robocaller just trying to SPAM and a robocaller trying to SCAM but i think they are both equally as bad
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Disagree.
if they can be located, they can be stopped or at least their life made difficult.
Telcos are not motivated to do anything about it....except get more revenue from the problem via offering some pay service that is not as good as nomo robo.
so lets say some scammer is robo calling from some random place in india and they switch locations regularly, kind of like the 'boiler room' of robocalling. who and how do you propose someone in the USA stops them or makes their life difficult? do you think we should start sending black ops to take out the threat?
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Right, then they'll use more ringless voicemails and texts instead of phone calls. Annoying as hell.
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so lets say some scammer is robo calling from some random place in india and they switch locations regularly, kind of like the 'boiler room' of robocalling. who and how do you propose someone in the USA stops them or makes their life difficult? do you think we should start sending black ops to take out the threat?
Your snarkiness aside, robocalls can be identified and banned in about 24 hours IF telcos and govts. wanted to.
Sending locations could be blocked. This would take effort and would not be perfect, but would make their lives more difficult.
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Your snarkiness aside, robocalls can be identified and banned in about 24 hours IF telcos and govts. wanted to.
Sending locations could be blocked. This would take effort and would not be perfect, but would make their lives more difficult.
I think its a lot more complicated than that. The actual perpetrators hide behind VPN when using VoIP and switch between various services and locations. So their fingerprint today could be different than tomorrow. Its been a very long time since Ive been in this space but you'd have to crack down on VPNs, VoIP services, how VoIP services interface with the telco's backbone, things get complicated going overseas, and then there are multiple carriers.

Could something be done? yes but i think it would require an overhaul of the entire telco system/backbone globally. the biggest thing would be some sort of authentication as to verifying that the caller is who they say they are and the receiver being able to confirm such (or the carrier, before it gets to the receiver)
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Again,
Robo dialers could be blocked lickety split.
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