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Old 02-15-2019, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mv rapscallion View Post
Sorry she had to go through that. You've got one tough cookie on your hands. They got my appendix out just before it burst and I could hardly move. It felt like I had an ice pic in my gut. It can't imagine it bursting and then sitting for a week. The pain was so bad I would have said I wimped out like a little girl but clearly that would have been giving myself too much credit.
No doubt. Mine burst yrs ago and the pain was unbearable. I've fractured my ribs a couple of times and as some of you know, it's no joke but next to a burst appendix it was a walk in the park. You do have a tough cookie in your daughter OP, be proud of her and continued prayers for her.
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Old 02-15-2019, 01:24 PM
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Good job being your child's advocate. Don't trust anyone. No one has your family's best interest at heart other than you.

People wrongly make the assumption that "professionals" can be completely trusted, Sorry, it doesn't work like that. There are stupid electricians, mechanics, doctors. lawyers, etc., etc. I assume everyone is incompetent until they prove otherwise

Glad to hear she will be OK
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Old 02-15-2019, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
Stupid question.......I thought you got passed on to a general practitioner well before 15. Oldest kid I've seen in the pediatricians office may have been 10 or 11.
most pediatricians are OK seeing a long-time patient until about 21 years old / they graduate college
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Originally Posted by silverg View Post
Just a rant.

So 11 days ago, 15 yo daughter complains of severe abdominal pain, vomiting and diarrhea. Go to pediatrician and they say she has norovirus because, well, other kids have had it. Send home, stay away from school. Daughter can't keep any food down, can't sleep because of pain. Go in for an IV of fluids, nurse struggles, takes 4 times to get needle right in her hand. By the weekend, pain starts to lessen, able to get out of bed and eat a little. By Monday, right back to severe pain, vomiting, diarrhea. Go back in, doctor says again this norovirus just takes a while to go away. No sleep all night. Go back to doctor on Tuesday, doctor states maybe we need to admit to hospital to administer fluids/monitor. Still severe pain, tough to watch. Finally around 10 PM, 3rd doctor she has seen since all of this started says, "I didn't realize/they didnt' tell me she had fever. We better do a scan of her abdomen."

By 11:30 the scan was read, yep, burst appendix now abscessed. Fortunately a sac had formed around the infection and not spread throughout her abdomen. Doctor recommends moving her to a children's hospital an hour away. He thinks she needs to go via helicopter, but bad weather. So now after a week, it is an emergency. End up going by ambulance. Spend all day Wednesday doing more tests. Still only given tylenol because not fully sure what action they plan to take. No sleep again Wednesday night. Thursday they insist she needs to empty her bladder because she hasn't in a while. Due to being so dehydrated, she had developed a UTI. Too painful to pee at this point.

After 4 miserable attempts to insert a catheter into her bladder, they abandon. At this point, someone is about to be strangled if they don't give her something more than tylenol. So some stronger pain med is given and she is finally able to relax after 9 days. Finally eats some jello after not having eaten anything since Tuesday, eats a few ice chips. By Thursday night, she finally falls into some decent sleep, but for gods sake, someone comes in every hour it seems to poke and prod. Nurse comes in at like 4 am and insists we need to start doing breathing treatments because she has been lying around for so long. F'in ridiculous.

Some time during the morning her right arm begins hurting more than her abdomen. This morning they decide that the high doses of antibiotic in her IV has caused an issue with her arm. Take out that IV needle and stick one in her left arm, will do a scan of her right arm. When will this shit end? They say maybe she can go home this coming Tuesday and then go back in around a month to have the appendix out.

All this could have been avoided had they properly diagnosed her last week and immediately taken out the appendix.

Being in relatively small town, wife knows the doctors fairly well. Doctors that screwed up are constantly calling my wife apologizing and I guess are CYA mode.

Word of advise, press the doctors to do more than just assume your kid has what all the other gazillion sick kids have. I realize we are fortunate and their are families dealing with far worse sick children, but this is just bs. Doctors seem to be on par with weathermen some times.
I mean no offense but I wouldve been asking questions, getting second opinions, googling, etc.

Heck, I some times get second opinions on my dog when there is something slightly serious that can't be diagnosed with 100% certainty

Severe abdominal pain would have been immediate cause to touch the appendix area and do some basic stuff

I would be livid that it was missed though and probably make a case to whomever is responsible for missing something so simple that they should be covering some of the additional hospital bills as the result of an extended stay and any expenses for hardships that you incurred
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I’ve been in the hospital a lot the past few years. Each time nothing has been found until I started insisting on certain tests. Ridiculous, I shouldn’t have to google things to determine which tests I need
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Old 02-15-2019, 02:14 PM
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Six years ago my Mom had a cancerous kidney removed. Complications left her in severe pain and near death. A second operation corrected the issue. We went through the apologies,etc but never saw the first bill except hospital room charges.
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Old 02-15-2019, 02:20 PM
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My mom had the EXACT same thing before I was born. Doc said it was the flu and sent her home. Next day she's in surgury with a ruptured appendix. She was in a coma for 2 weeks with a 50-50 chance. Luckily she recovered.
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Old 02-15-2019, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Jdow View Post
I’ve been in the hospital a lot the past few years. Each time nothing has been found until I started insisting on certain tests. Ridiculous, I shouldn’t have to google things to determine which tests I need
Same with my wife (sorry that you are going through that). They mis-diagnosed her pneumonia for bronchitis one year, fractured ankle for a sprain another year, and Celiac's for "stress". It's not until you ask for procedures that they find out what's going on. It kind of reminds me of the growing number of mechanics who can't diagnose car problems without a code reader telling them what's wrong, otherwise it's "normal".

As a doctor (or any business professional), if you're so overwhelmed that quality takes a hit, it's time to stop thinking about the bottom line and embrace integrity.
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Old 02-15-2019, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Jdow View Post
I’ve been in the hospital a lot the past few years. Each time nothing has been found until I started insisting on certain tests. Ridiculous, I shouldn’t have to google things to determine which tests I need
Exactly, you need an advocate for the patient or things get overlooked.

I spent more than a month with my wife in critical care after she came down with sepsis after a very “simple” operation.

Several times I had to demand, sometimes rudely, to get the correct actions taken during critical times. I also had to google how to use and read the monitoring equipment. The nurses didn’t always have time, or know, exactly how to use the equipment correctly.

By the way, my wife is an RN.
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Old 02-15-2019, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by OldPete View Post


I have a family member, a child no less, that passed because of poor medical care. So... frankly. Go F yourself you pesty dolt.

I called you on shit years ago and you didn't like it. You came on here asking if any forum member could loan you there Costco Card because you had "some how managed" to misplace or renew yours. It's because of cheap bastards like you that so many things are messed up in this world but you're the first on to start screaming RIPOFF when you feel you got burned out of a nickel. Case in point, stores like Costco, Sams Club etc are able to drop their prices in certain areas due to some point in people paying a membership, the exact same thing you were trying to get out of paying but still use their services and you're the very first one to complain, usually on a regular basis about prices being to high or getting ripped off but you in fact are one of the reasons for this and what you're always sniveling about. And to top it off, this coming from a person that owns a home on the water, has a very nice boat and hard telling what else. I understand that you feel zero qualms about doing what you do because if you did, you wouldn't be doing it. I was actually embarrassed for you. With that being said, go tell someone else to go f themselves and call them a "pesty" dolt, I won't play your games because I already know what you're all about and that was leading into a lawsuit with this post. It must suck to be you.
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Old 02-15-2019, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by YFMF View Post
Unless you can prove actual damages I'm not sure what you can sue for. Now if there's a test to show the appendix is not functioning right ad they didn't give that test, you might have something.
Ever hear of pain and suffering?
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Old 02-15-2019, 04:57 PM
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Did I read this wrong?
she has a ruptured appendix and they are not doing surgery on her for another month?
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i’m so confused
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Old 02-15-2019, 05:17 PM
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Doing an interval appendectomy (in four weeks) is optional in my mind
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I called you on shit years ago and you didn't like it. You came on here asking if any forum member could loan you there Costco Card because you had "some how managed" to misplace or renew yours. It's because of cheap bastards like you that so many things are messed up in this world but you're the first on to start screaming RIPOFF when you feel you got burned out of a nickel. Case in point, stores like Costco, Sams Club etc are able to drop their prices in certain areas due to some point in people paying a membership, the exact same thing you were trying to get out of paying but still use their services and you're the very first one to complain, usually on a regular basis about prices being to high or getting ripped off but you in fact are one of the reasons for this and what you're always sniveling about. And to top it off, this coming from a person that owns a home on the water, has a very nice boat and hard telling what else. I understand that you feel zero qualms about doing what you do because if you did, you wouldn't be doing it. I was actually embarrassed for you. With that being said, go tell someone else to go f themselves and call them a "pesty" dolt, I won't play your games because I already know what you're all about and that was leading into a lawsuit with this post. It must suck to be you.
Thank god that you don't know what paragraphs looks like. LOL. I didn't actually read what you wrote, so you can just go in my special club. God Bless.
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Thank god that you don't know what paragraphs looks like. LOL. I didn't actually read what you wrote, so you can just go in my special club. God Bless.
I know exactly what paragraphs look like and everything I wrote is fact. And I'm willing to bet quite a bit that you absolutely read everything I wrote. You pulled the same shit a few yrs back when I called you on it. Your response is just your way of trying to dodge these embarrassing facts. LOL

PS, Apologies to the OP for the derailment. Continued prayers for your daughter.
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Did I read this wrong?
she has a ruptured appendix and they are not doing surgery on her for another month?
this...
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Old 02-15-2019, 07:22 PM
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Operating now is the last thing you want to do and would cause more harm. She has a delayed/missed presentation. If she has a defined abscess, she needs an image (CT) guided drainage. If she's getting better, it may be too small or not amenable too it. Historically, it has been recommended to remove the appendix 6-8 weeks later once the inflammatory process has resolved after a presentation like this one. The need to remove it later is now questioned since studies show about a 7-8% recurrence rate. I give the option of observation but still offer appendectomy to patients who have had appendicitis that were treated non-operatively initially.

If it was me or my daughter, I would probably have it removed in a couple months, but again it is not mandatory.

I'm sorry your daughter has to go thru this. I hope she continues to improve.
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Originally Posted by silverg View Post
Just a rant.

So 11 days ago, 15 yo daughter complains of severe abdominal pain, vomiting and diarrhea. Go to pediatrician and they say she has norovirus because, well, other kids have had it. Send home, stay away from school. Daughter can't keep any food down, can't sleep because of pain. Go in for an IV of fluids, nurse struggles, takes 4 times to get needle right in her hand. By the weekend, pain starts to lessen, able to get out of bed and eat a little. By Monday, right back to severe pain, vomiting, diarrhea. Go back in, doctor says again this norovirus just takes a while to go away. No sleep all night. Go back to doctor on Tuesday, doctor states maybe we need to admit to hospital to administer fluids/monitor. Still severe pain, tough to watch. Finally around 10 PM, 3rd doctor she has seen since all of this started says, "I didn't realize/they didnt' tell me she had fever. We better do a scan of her abdomen."

By 11:30 the scan was read, yep, burst appendix now abscessed. Fortunately a sac had formed around the infection and not spread throughout her abdomen. Doctor recommends moving her to a children's hospital an hour away. He thinks she needs to go via helicopter, but bad weather. So now after a week, it is an emergency. End up going by ambulance. Spend all day Wednesday doing more tests. Still only given tylenol because not fully sure what action they plan to take. No sleep again Wednesday night. Thursday they insist she needs to empty her bladder because she hasn't in a while. Due to being so dehydrated, she had developed a UTI. Too painful to pee at this point.

After 4 miserable attempts to insert a catheter into her bladder, they abandon. At this point, someone is about to be strangled if they don't give her something more than tylenol. So some stronger pain med is given and she is finally able to relax after 9 days. Finally eats some jello after not having eaten anything since Tuesday, eats a few ice chips. By Thursday night, she finally falls into some decent sleep, but for gods sake, someone comes in every hour it seems to poke and prod. Nurse comes in at like 4 am and insists we need to start doing breathing treatments because she has been lying around for so long. F'in ridiculous.

Some time during the morning her right arm begins hurting more than her abdomen. This morning they decide that the high doses of antibiotic in her IV has caused an issue with her arm. Take out that IV needle and stick one in her left arm, will do a scan of her right arm. When will this shit end? They say maybe she can go home this coming Tuesday and then go back in around a month to have the appendix out.

All this could have been avoided had they properly diagnosed her last week and immediately taken out the appendix.

Being in relatively small town, wife knows the doctors fairly well. Doctors that screwed up are constantly calling my wife apologizing and I guess are CYA mode.

Word of advise, press the doctors to do more than just assume your kid has what all the other gazillion sick kids have. I realize we are fortunate and their are families dealing with far worse sick children, but this is just bs. Doctors seem to be on par with weathermen some times.
mcburnuys and rovsings signs.....most pediatricians aren't the go to people to diagnose an appy......even CT scans can be inconclusive...also CT scans should only be done if totally necessary.....lots of radiation on a youngsters eggs is never a good idea....sorry to hear of her situation....hope she recovers well and all this becomes a distant memory
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Similar thing happened to me when I was in my early 20s. Dr just said stomach bug. Ended up throwing up in the middle of the night. Called my mom to come get me and drive me to the Er. Ended up being ruptured and had gangrene in my abdomen. Nursing staff nearly overdosed me on morphine, it’s a respiratory depressant and I nearly went into respirator arrest. Mean while my mom keeps pleading with the staff that somethings wrong. I’m in and out of conciousness. Respiratory therapist finally realaizes the med error on pump.

One week later the incision is hot and hurt. After Easter service I drive myself to the Er. Ended up being infected and with just some lidocaine the ed cut the incision open and stuck his finger into my abdomen and scrapped out as much of the puss and infection as he could. Most pain I’ve ever felt. Had to heal from the inside out, huge, deep, thick scar thanks to some dickhead weekend doc not wanting to run labs and catch an elevated white count.

Plum glad she’s on the mend. I’m pretty sure now being parent that this side would be much worse and scary

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