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Old 02-14-2019, 08:54 AM
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Default Who here has been diagnosed with Low-T

And if so what did you do about it? Serious question so please keep the snarky comments to yourself thank you!
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Old 02-14-2019, 08:57 AM
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How old are you? Have children? Planning to have more?

I am on Dr prescribed TRT (testosterone replacement therapy). I have extensive knowledge of the subject matter.
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Old 02-14-2019, 09:10 AM
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Sorry more details. 62 years old (2 kids) with no plans for more. 2x cancer survivor of SCC to the larynx, both radiation and surgery. T is at 58 with normals being between 280 and 900. Seeing an Endocrinologist later today. Thanks HookmeupII for the response.
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I'm 40 years old and my T was 200. Doc wants to check it again before we do anything. I've grown a gut, no drive at all, and feel lazy a lot. Getting tired of this.

Hookmeup, how do the meds make you feel?
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Old 02-14-2019, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by HydraVector View Post
I'm 40 years old and my T was 200. Doc wants to check it again before we do anything. I've grown a gut, no drive at all, and feel lazy a lot. Getting tired of this.

Hookmeup, how do the meds make you feel?
Same here but I haven't gotten mine checked yet.. Hell I haven't been to the Dr. in probably 10 years or more, over 25 for a "check up"
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Old 02-14-2019, 10:12 AM
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Diagnosed when I was 31 (2 years ago). Score was somewhere around 180-210. Self administered (rx) testosterone injection every other week helps. I refer to it as the 'butt dart'. 2 years and I still don't love doing it. Sometimes it hurts, sometimes I barely feel it. There are noticeable results, however.
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Old 02-14-2019, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by buzzellc View Post
Sorry more details. 62 years old (2 kids) with no plans for more. 2x cancer survivor of SCC to the larynx, both radiation and surgery. T is at 58 with normals being between 280 and 900. Seeing an Endocrinologist later today. Thanks HookmeupII for the response.
Your cancer, it didn't metastisize, did it? Any prostate markers come up in the bloodwork?

Generally speaking, TRT when provided by the right doctor can give you a lot of benefit. However, given your circumstances, you definitely want to consult with the MD. Generally speaking, the Androgel and things of that nature don't work all that well. In fact, I think it does more harm than good. They have a couple other alternatives. One is the tried and true, 2x weekly injections. Very similar to subcutaneous insulin injections. The other, new, method is a once monthly injection by your doctor.

Your cancer history makes it touch and go in terms of whether or not you are a candidate. Definitely have the convo with the doctor.

You will feel like a million bucks if they can get your T up into the 600 range.
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Old 02-14-2019, 10:33 AM
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Diagnosed when I was 31 (2 years ago). Score was somewhere around 180-210. Self administered (rx) testosterone injection every other week helps. I refer to it as the 'butt dart'. 2 years and I still don't love doing it. Sometimes it hurts, sometimes I barely feel it. There are noticeable results, however.
You should consider subcutaneous. MUCH better method of administration. It depends on how much you are taking but if it's small, consider it.

Much slower and linear absorption by the body. This leads to less spikes in E2.
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Originally Posted by HookMeUpII View Post
You should consider subcutaneous. MUCH better method of administration. It depends on how much you are taking but if it's small, consider it.

Much slower and linear absorption by the body. This leads to less spikes in E2.
Not aware of this method. Can you explain or send me a link that elaborates? I am taking 2cc's once every other week.
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Old 02-14-2019, 01:38 PM
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The cancer has not metastised (thank GOD). PSA's are very low. However when they did the CT to see about cancer after surgery it uncovered a Radcliffs Cleft (small cyst) sitting on the pituitary gland. The thinking is that this cyst is putting pressure on the pituitary effecting hormone production. Other hormones coming from the pituitary appear to be effected as well. So conclusion from todays visit is to increase my thyroid med by 50% and add hydrocortisone. Also another surgery in the near future to drain the cyst to relieve any pressure on the pituitary. After the surgery they will evaluate whether testosterone therapy will be required. Once again guys thanks for the informative answers. I am working through Froedert and the Medical College of Wisconsin, all of the Docs here are inter-connected and talk to each other. The Radcliffs Cleft (cyst) has most likely been there since birth and over time has slowly grown into something to be concerned about.
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Originally Posted by HookMeUpII View Post
You should consider subcutaneous. MUCH better method of administration. It depends on how much you are taking but if it's small, consider it.

Much slower and linear absorption by the body. This leads to less spikes in E2.
I was doing injections too, just started on Xyosted, auto injector, I will never go back to injections....https://www.xyosted.com/
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A buddy of mine (40ish when he started) did the shots. I can tell you this....when he came back from the Dr. he was like Superman for a few days!
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I asked my doc as my symptoms are the same as those mentioned above. Problem for me was a prostate cancer diagnosis (which I have medically addressed and fully kicked). If you have had a prostate issue most docs will not go down the T therapy route.
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Old 02-14-2019, 02:33 PM
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I did the shots for a while in my late 50’s. Really felt the effects in a good way at even half the suggested dosage. Last week had my prostate out. Uro/oncol. said the T did not cause the PC but it served to support the growth of the cancer cells. The problem is it usually starts long before it becomes symptomatic and if it overlaps the T treatments it is not good.
Not a lot of good research on the relationship between PC and T supplementation. Talk with your doc and realize it is a role of the dice.
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Been on it since I was 38 (9 yrs). I take a self administered injection with a dose of 100mg each week. Makes quality of life much better if you’ve been diagnosed with symptoms. Working out is fun again too!
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Originally Posted by LWLoadie View Post
I was doing injections too, just started on Xyosted, auto injector, I will never go back to injections....https://www.xyosted.com/
Perfect timing. I meet with my gcp a week from today. I will ask him about this. It looks so much easier. I don't know that I'll ever get comfortable drawing up a shot the way I have to now.
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Old 02-14-2019, 03:29 PM
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At 37, I had turned into a couch potato and could watch TV all day on the weekends, and barely made it through a work week. Finally convinced myself something was wrong as I had always been active. After tons of testing, I had low T at 180 and no real reason for it. 9 years later and lots of experimenting with different specialists and gels and pellets, the cheapest and easiest is from my PCP and I self inject .6cc/week sub Q and that keeps me around 600. It really boosted my energy and strength too. I began lifting 4x/week for the last 6 years and can out-lift everyone with exception of a few at the gym. It really turned my life around. Everyone should get their T tested because you may be low, and if not you will know what your normal T levels are for the future if they do eventually drop below normal. FYI, normal can be anywhere from 1100 to 400. Everyone is different and it takes alot of time to figure out what your "natural level" is if you never had it tested when you were younger. Your body fights you if you keep it too high or too low from your "natural level".

I can't comment on the cancer but I have read T is suspected to increase its growth rate in certain cases. You definitely will want to consult with a specialist.
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Don't go to you normal md. Go to one that specializes in trt. You'll need a full blood and hormone panel. Look at cortisol, estrogen and free testosterone.
if you go on trt you will also need an estrogen blocker.
total T you'll want to get between 800 and 1200, estrogen is a % of T, I forget the #'s.
Only real side effect is thickening of blood for some people which requires occasional blood donations.

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