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Old 02-12-2019, 05:45 AM
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Just had a new MacBook Air arrive last week.

Have Had many PCs and this is my 3rd apple cpu since 2004. They last much longer and are less of a hassle imo
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Old 02-12-2019, 05:50 AM
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I used to be a Dell fan for years, and had a number of them, but 4 years ago I decided to try a Mac after I bought a cheap Dell and found it loaded with advertising popups that I could never figure out how to get rid of. I said, that's it. They sell ya this crap cheap, and then make money by putting advertising on MY computer. Since I've owned the Mac, it has been super. DOESN'T CRASH!!! Now that computer I bought in Sept 2014, after a lot of tracking down a problem, got hit by lightning this past Aug or Sept. After I took it in to these doofuses in Deland, who changed the hard drive in it and didn't use an Apple-compatible drive (It didn't have the right fan sensors, so the fan would run at high speed continually, and a program would kick in that made the computer think that it was overheating and would take up 95% of the brain), the Apple senior engineer in Portland Oregon spent probably 8 hours on the phone with me trying to figure out what was wrong. If you get hit by lightning, any of the various memories in the computer can be damaged, and tracking down which one is expensive. Just get a new computer. Apple never charged me a dime! They never asked anything of me. Period. I, of course, bought another iMac on Black Friday.

So......an APPLE MAY BE EXPENSIVE, but the support and service is superior. I have become a strong Apple supporter.
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The hardware comments are laughable. If you buy something like a Dell XPS 13/15 it'll last just as long as the MacBook. Most people buy a $300-500 PC laptop and get fed up with it and then splurge on a Mac at $2k, then proceed to tell the world how inferior the PC is/was. The issue with cheap PC's is generally they're not as well designed (fans/vents always on the bottom where they suck up dust as one example), and the hardware tends to not get driver updates for very long like the flagship laptops or business lines of laptops.

Generally I like the Mac OS better. Windows 10 has closed the gap quite a bit though, if not completely.
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Old 02-12-2019, 06:08 AM
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I thought about switching to Mac on th last computer purchase but the person who does my bookkeeping on Quickbooks said that the Mac version was not as user friendly? I don’t know as I have never messed with the Mac version. Everything else in the house is pretty much Apple though so I thought it could be a nice switch for integration purposes.
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Old 02-12-2019, 07:26 AM
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My youngest daughter has the windows pc I bought her when she started high school. Made it through high school, college and still using it every day and she's 33. Now cell phones, at least 1 a year. My other 2 I couldn't count the laptops they have had.
So, she's using a 19 year old laptop every day? What's it running? Windows 98 or ME?
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Old 02-12-2019, 08:21 AM
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Window's based laptops will last just as long as an over priced Mac. They all use the same HW from the same places, and most of the time you can build a superior PC for much less than a new MacBook.
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Old 02-12-2019, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by jshanks View Post
Window's based laptops will last just as long as an over priced Mac. They all use the same HW from the same places, and most of the time you can build a superior PC for much less than a new MacBook.

Yep and the Seafox is just as good as Regulator. The hardware is all the same?
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Old 02-12-2019, 10:42 AM
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They just don’t break either.
Your right about them being $$. But my kids macs made it through HS AND college !

What windows laptop will do that ?

Depends which model (or class) laptop that is running Windows...you're comparing it to.
Most people make the mistake of taking a $499 or $699 el cheapo laptop running Windows...with cheap components inside, and comparing it to an $1,800 Apple.
Uhm...hello, McFly!!!! Not really a fair comparison to compare some residential grade 1 year warranty cheap laptop against an Apple that is priced 2.5x or 3x as much.
I know, the Air isn't their high end...it's still nice though, very nice.

YET...if I compare my $1,800 Carbon X1 Ultrabook against your $1,800 Apple laptop...now we have a fair comparison. Because we now have similar "grade" components under the hood. Not "el cheapo" ones.
I work with both. While mostly in the Microsoft world, I do have some clients with Apples, and I even got my own parents one.

Malware wise...malware is getting cross platform now. People need to stop thinking of the old days with old school "viruses". Malware hits Microsoft, Apple, *nix....malware has changed big time!
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Old 02-12-2019, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by rocksandblues View Post
They just don’t break either.
Your right about them being $$. But my kids macs made it through HS AND college !

What windows laptop will do that ?
I have a stack of them that says otherwise. MacBook airs usually get 18-24 months, the MacBook a bit longer, the pro's even longer.
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Ok, well then my ex wife, 2 daughters, I son and i have zero issues after dozen years

friends that I know that have them have had zero issues.

I amend my previous post to stipulate “in my experience”


carry on windows guys
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Originally Posted by rocksandblues View Post
Ok, well then my ex wife, 2 daughters, I son and i have zero issues after dozen years

friends that I know that have them have had zero issues.

I amend my previous post to stipulate “in my experience”


carry on windows guys
Great...I have an old all in one that is 8 years old and I use it daily, but when I bought it I got a higher end model. It runs Windows 10 and works fine. I have an Asus Zenbook with the exact same insides as a MacBook Air, 5 years old, no issues.

Buy cheap, get cheap.

Mac uses the dame insides as every other medium to high end computer.

Mac is basucally a Yeti.

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Old 02-12-2019, 05:50 PM
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+1 for Mac.

You can build a PC laptop with better hardware and the Windows OS is more intuitive to me. You could sell it someone else cheaper than a Mac but I will never buy it. Apple just works and in the end that's what I want... one that just keeps working and never freezes or crashes.

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I have a 15 inch mac book pro I bought in 2011 that's as fast as the day it came out of the box. So you could say I'm happy with the purchase.
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Originally Posted by 23Dorado View Post
I have a 15 inch mac book pro I bought in 2011 that's as fast as the day it came out of the box. So you could say I'm happy with the purchase.
I did the same on my mac in 2011, before taking it home I maxed out every upgrade I could... It's still a workhorse and going strong after 3 battery replacements, never a crash or virus or malware...I have to use microsoft with all my work applications, not by my choice but have been through 4 laptops with work since I had my mac...I was using my mac with windows parallel for a while but IT clamped down and ended that...
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I have a 2012 Macbook Pro, as well as a Mac Book Air of about the same vintage (a little newer). The macbook pro is my regular computer (on it now). It's starting to show some age (I cracked the screen), but it's still kicking. I don't use the Air as much, and it's like brand new. I do love how light and portable it is. I changed over my whole computer system at the office to macs, and that pretty much ended our need for outside tech help to keep things running. They're also super stylish.
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I thought about switching to Mac on th last computer purchase but the person who does my bookkeeping on Quickbooks said that the Mac version was not as user friendly? I don’t know as I have never messed with the Mac version. Everything else in the house is pretty much Apple though so I thought it could be a nice switch for integration purposes.
If you have other Apple devices, Apple computers work very well with them. If I get a text or phone call on my iPhone it’ll hand it off to my Mac. Same with web browsing, find friends, etc.

I was a diehard windows guy for years, still kind of am, and hated all things apple. Then I got fed up with the crappy android tablets so I broke down and bought an iPad. Loved it so much that I switched to an iPhone. Then I bought a Mac, which I swore I’d never do. Then I bought an Apple TV 4K to replace my Roku. Finally an Apple Watch. There’s no denying that their products are very polished and the hardware plays nice with the operating systems.

I do like some of the Microsoft hardware and own a surface pro. It’s too bad that Microsoft was late to the cell phone party.
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I have an 8 year old Macbook Air. Purchased new and use it every day in my work. Most letters are worn off the keys but it has NEVER crashed. It stays on and running for months at a time.
I also just purchased a new Macbook Pro a year ago.
Expensive yes, but in my job I can't afford to deal with the type of stuff that I had to deal with when I was using Windows laptops which included Dell, ThinkPads, Toshibas, HPs, etc.
New Windows latops are very solid these days but I still prefer Macs.

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I have an original iMac and use it daily to run SolidWorks 2019 while editing 4k video on an external monitor. It's never been turned off.



Truth be told, I must say I've never heard of anyone complaining about a Mac crashing or having the typical Windows issues, and they are designed beautifully. My HP is the first "premium" laptop I've had with a solid aluminum build quality...and it does make a huge difference in how nice it is to use. Macs are no doubt similar, and in some ways probably better.

But the gap is finally closing with the high end Windows stuff (Dell XPS, HP Spectre line, Windows Surface Pro)...and this stuff is all still hundreds less than a Mac. At this point it's really just which OS you prefer. Windows' big disadvantage is they lag far behind Apple and Google as far as integration across devices. My high end Windows laptop unfortunately feels very disconnected from the 15 or so Google devices we have floating around the house.

Google is clearly making a huge push with their Pixelbook too...though their OS still needs some tweaking to be a legitimate replacement for a Windows or Apple. I think they'll get there.
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Switched to Macs about 5 years ago and will never go back to PC.
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Originally Posted by NCSUboater View Post
I have an original iMac and use it daily to run SolidWorks 2019 while editing 4k video on an external monitor. It's never been turned off.



Truth be told, I must say I've never heard of anyone complaining about a Mac crashing or having the typical Windows issues, and they are designed beautifully. My HP is the first "premium" laptop I've had with a solid aluminum build quality...and it does make a huge difference in how nice it is to use. Macs are no doubt similar, and in some ways probably better.

But the gap is finally closing with the high end Windows stuff (Dell XPS, HP Spectre line, Windows Surface Pro)...and this stuff is all still hundreds less than a Mac. At this point it's really just which OS you prefer. Windows' big disadvantage is they lag far behind Apple and Google as far as integration across devices. My high end Windows laptop unfortunately feels very disconnected from the 15 or so Google devices we have floating around the house.

Google is clearly making a huge push with their Pixelbook too...though their OS still needs some tweaking to be a legitimate replacement for a Windows or Apple. I think they'll get there.
When was the last time your Windows computer crashed? I have two windows laptops and a desktop, I can't even remember the last time one of them crashed. Windows 10 is pretty flawless.

However, my Iphone is nothing but problems, and many at my company have the same issue, the phone app will quit working, or it overheats and eats the entire battery in 20-30 minutes. I have to restart it sometimes daily. But switching from an Iphone to anything else is a problem since Apple makes it super hard to get out of iMessage. You will not get text messages and that can't happen.
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