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Old 02-11-2019, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by IMPLiberty View Post


I thought NJ rivaled my area for taxes... I pay $8000 on $200k house... FL sounds nice!
Wow that's crazy. You win
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Old 02-11-2019, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by r_ventura_23 View Post
Wow.....what town?
NY about an hour outside of NYC. I looked at some houses north of $10,000 taxes on $200k houses...

And for anyone saying I win, sadly I lose, big time!
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Old 02-12-2019, 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by IMPLiberty View Post


NY about an hour outside of NYC. I looked at some houses north of $10,000 taxes on $200k houses...

And for anyone saying I win, sadly I lose, big time!
I'm with you
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Old 02-12-2019, 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Gullpt View Post
Oh what a relief it is, here in Ct. I hardly have to wait at a stop sign anymore. The slip next to me at the marina has been empty for two years. I can just drift In nearly sideways..Iím encouraging everyone I know to move south. I have 3 acres in the country, nice neighbors, cool summer nights, 10 minutes to the marina. And my taxes are very doable. Iíll stay thank you very much..
Thank you very much as well!
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Old 02-12-2019, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Delduck View Post
My wife and I live in northern Deleware we own a buisness in this state and have a place in lower deleware. We love the taxes here. we also have a few wetland marshes in southern NJ we bought years ago for waterfowl hunting and lease approximately 2,000 ac of farmland, the taxes on the marsh are approximately $1,000 per year and during high tide itís under water, low tide itís mud flats. The taxes on the farmland arenít too bad but itís farmed assessed which helps considerably. We would love to move to jersey on one of the farms but could not afford it with a 2,000sq ft house the taxes on the house would be $8,000 alone. Deleware is a great state but a lot of northern Jersey and New Yorkers moving in because of our taxes and tax free shopping.
Not to break your balls but at least the people from Jersey know how to spell DELAWARE
I'm not one to correct people's selling because it not my strong point either
But you SHOULD know how to spell the state you live in
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Old 02-12-2019, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Rags View Post
where the hell in NJ do you live for a $575K house with $6200 taxes? Are you south of Waretown or Barnegat?
I live in Manahawkin and pay 6k on a 300k house.
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Old 02-12-2019, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by YFMF View Post
I got news for you, we've been shopping in Fl, planning out retirement, lots of properties have higher taxes then what we pay here in NJ. No doubt there are still many/most of Fl is not that way, but it's not cheap if you want o live where there is any kind of population.

Hell taxes in Boca Raton area on the east coast and North Venice on the west outpace me in NJ by a few K per house.

North Venice on the west coast, home 500-600K = 10K in property taxes.
My home in NJ, reported value 575k, $6200 property taxes.

dayum that's cheap. my house is worth about 200K and I have some of the lowest property taxes in the state of WI mine are just shy of $3000
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Old 02-12-2019, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Captainbadfinger View Post
Not to break your balls but at least the people from Jersey know how to spell DELAWARE
I'm not one to correct people's selling because it not my strong point either
But you SHOULD know how to spell the state you live in
And they NEVER miss a chance to correct someone.
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Old 02-12-2019, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Rags View Post
take a video as you drive in from Veeder and then use that as justification for decreasing the assessment. I havn't been down Ronald since the summer but at the time looked like the whole neighborhood was under construction.
Good idea. Once a few residence go into homes, we will be in much better shape. But no way my house would sell for $430k. Should be easy to win my appeal. I dont think any house that is not at the end of a cul de sac has sold for that on my side of the bridge.
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Old 02-12-2019, 08:14 AM
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Pete, were are trying to keep their grouchy pissy attitudes in NJ, dont tell them our secretes and encourage them down here!
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Old 02-12-2019, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by OldPete View Post
So the new governor of NJ ran on a platform of higher taxes and higher wages for government employess. He won!!!! WTF is wrong with people in NJ?
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Old 02-12-2019, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by IMPLiberty View Post


NY about an hour outside of NYC. I looked at some houses north of $10,000 taxes on $200k houses...

And for anyone saying I win, sadly I lose, big time!

We all lose in NY, downstate at least and Westchester. I'm at $18,500 on a $550K house. $2K of that is village tax, rest of it is town tax. .42 acres and it's a ranch with about 2800 sq ft of living space. Neighborhood is on the water and has a 10 slip marina for the neighborhood association. I can ride my bike to my boat in 30 seconds, I timed it. Only thing that makes me accept the taxes....well and the great schools for my kids.

I will undoubtedly be a FL resident at some point. Need to stay near water, need a boat and need warm weather. When I retire I never want to feel cold again, unless I do it voluntarily for recreation.

I for one, will never have any opinion about FL needing to be like NY or say one damn thing about how things are done in NY.....I will absolutely relish in anything Florida when I end up there. No desire to have anything be like NY at all, especially by that point in life.
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Old 02-12-2019, 12:41 PM
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I looked up the numbers a while ago for towns in MA. Rates per thousand dollars range from $2.84 to $23.62. Average MA home is around $400k. So $1k to $10k depending where you live. There does not seem to be any correlation with geography or how expensive a town is for the rates. I.e. hicksville, Boston area, Cape, etc. can be low or high and wealthier towns can be low or high.
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Old 02-12-2019, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Bamaman View Post
My Alabama fish camp (lake house) is appraised at $389K, and the property taxes are $1,147 per year.

My 5200 square foot city house with two double car garages has no property taxes because my wife is disabled.

Our property taxes are not apt to increase because it would require a referendum per an outdated state constitution. And Alabama citizens desire less government--and they're getting it. About the only tax they're going to get is an increase in the gas tax about a dime per gallon.
I got you beat. My 45 acre woods in Pa with three story barn and pond is taxed at $99 a year. But it also produces 180k in natural gas income a year.
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Our 'rates' aren't really as calculably consistent as other places. Generally, though $250k house is about $700/ year. $300-450k are $800-1k a year. $750k $1,500. $1.5m $2k a year.
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Old 02-12-2019, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Southbay View Post
We all lose in NY, downstate at least and Westchester. I'm at $18,500 on a $550K house. $2K of that is village tax, rest of it is town tax. .42 acres and it's a ranch with about 2800 sq ft of living space. Neighborhood is on the water and has a 10 slip marina for the neighborhood association. I can ride my bike to my boat in 30 seconds, I timed it. Only thing that makes me accept the taxes....well and the great schools for my kids.

I will undoubtedly be a FL resident at some point. Need to stay near water, need a boat and need warm weather. When I retire I never want to feel cold again, unless I do it voluntarily for recreation.

I for one, will never have any opinion about FL needing to be like NY or say one damn thing about how things are done in NY.....I will absolutely relish in anything Florida when I end up there. No desire to have anything be like NY at all, especially by that point in life.
Luckily I'm not in a village, or my taxes would probably be over $10,000. I spoke with my wife's aunt who is down in TN, she payed $550/year for property tax... I "won" that competition as well! Lol.

I'm hoping to move south when I can, and I have zero intentions of bringing anything NY down with me.
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Old 02-13-2019, 07:24 AM
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I can agree that NJ has some nice places to visit. But I couldn't imagine living there again after moving out... and I had it pretty good in NJ. The best way I can explain it is that we were going to keep a home on a barrier island in a pretty nice shore community. On the water, open views of the Barnegat Bay. Then we spent a two weeks in the Keys and the Bahamas. Haven't been back since -- and likely never will by the time it is sold. It's like being thirsty and getting the choice between crappy beer and good beer.... Crappy beer will be "ok" -- but good beer is better. LOL.

The worse part is that you have to sit there and watch values, etc. fall apart while the union teachers and cops clean your clock. Why?
I think we had this exact same discussion before. When I'm your age (assuming you're older) I might feel differently. Now, I love my state save what I mentioned. You know a little bit more about the "real NJ" that people don't know of. Hell, my fiance' thought all of NJ was like Elizabeth, Newark, Clifton, Union, etc. Even in northern NJ, when she first moved in with me, she thought it was so peaceful. We love where we live now. It's quiet while still having access to all the stuff we need. Walmarts, grocery stores, malls, etc.

I agree 100% with you on the unions bleeding the state dry. FAR too much money is dumped into schools here. Needless, stupid money. And that's where we suffer. Out my $8200 tax bill:

Roughly $2500 is muni taxes (OK fine, fair enough)
Roughly $700 is county taxes (Peanuts in the grand scheme)

Then the big one...$5000 for school taxes. For what? It's a mediocre school system at best (by NJ standards). Complete waste of my money.

So yes, that's what it really boils down to for me: Property values, COL, and corrupt politicians.

I love my summer REAL tuna fishing. I love my true fall/winter duck hunting.

Florida is nice. The fiance' and I visit family there a few times a year. Never has it crossed my mind to live there though.
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Old 02-13-2019, 10:24 AM
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im a squatter so taxes dont mean anything to me!
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Old 02-13-2019, 02:01 PM
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Just today I read where NY Governor Cuomo is "BLAMING" Florida for stealing all the NY residents and thus the tax shortfall NY state is now having, something like 2 billion short.

How bout you look in the mirror Mr. Governor and figure out, like your GF, no one gets stolen, you screw up and lose them.
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Old 02-13-2019, 02:39 PM
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Just today I read where NY Governor Cuomo is "BLAMING" Florida for stealing all the NY residents and thus the tax shortfall NY state is now having, something like 2 billion short.

How bout you look in the mirror Mr. Governor and figure out, like your GF, no one gets stolen, you screw up and lose them.
People just don't get it here.

You put your hand on a stove and get burned...do you blame the stove or yourself for putting your hand on the stove? People here get pissed at Trump for eliminating the SALT deductions. He said it best "Get your representatives to lower your taxes." People knew full and well what voting Murphy in would do.

This might be a bilge-worthy statement but here it goes....

Murphy and Cuomo want their states to be a haven for illegals. Period, end of discussion. They don't pay income taxes, they don't pay property taxes (because they rent). Those are the two biggest burdens currently on residents. When the taxpayer base completely leaves, who is going to be footing the states bills? No one. And that's what they're afraid of. It's a stark reality that they hopefully soon come to terms with.

So my fellow NJ residents...keep voting blue...especially in the senate. This is what is going to keep happening.
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