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Old 02-11-2019, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by gf View Post
I guess we're supposed to infer that he did not get in to UF? You don't actually say that in your post.

UCF, Univ. of South Forida and Florida State are all fine engineering schools as well.
My nephew went o UCF very sharp kid .
He got out and landed a really good job in the marine industry (he has never been onn a boat in his life )LOL.
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Old 02-11-2019, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Rolandt03 View Post
possible, how ever i have not witnessed it. i think people feel they need that to get their foot in the door. in reality a good interview, a good work ethic, and proving yourself can be just as effective!
Internships and co-oping are far more important than the name of the school. Except for a very few cases like MIT or something.
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Old 02-11-2019, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by r_ventura_23 View Post
"The world needs ditch digger too."
I already have the ditch digger ,his older brother and myself for that matter . I moved up to ditch digger supervisor.
Hope this one does well so older brother moves in with him.
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Did the other have family that are UF grads? Did you read your son’s essay? A lot of classes are stripped out of the gpa by the university (i.e P/E, Religion, bs gpa building classes). Too many unknowns. When my son got accepted to all 4 schools he applied to, we had parents trying to compare their kid’s scores/grades. They didn’t know the rigor of my son’s academic history. Their kids took easy classes their senior year. My son had to get his schedule approved by guidence and the principal. I am sure it sucks for your son. Hate it for you. Maybe a good life lesson but saying your kid was better than his friend takes a bit away from the lesson.
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Old 02-11-2019, 11:26 AM
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Norwich University has good engineering program. Back in the day the Shah of Iran set 60 some of its navy there. Largest on campus ski area.
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My daughter graduated from UF about 3 years ago. She was stunned that she got in. We felt it was a combination of the specific major (Environmental Science) she put on the application, and a very well-written essay.

My GF's daughter is a senior in high school and did not get into UF. She was accepted into their Pace Online program, but I doubt she will do that. She had the grades and test scores to get in, but chose General Business as her major.

I also heard there was a higher % of out-of-state students this year, which of course raises more revenue and raises the bar higher for in-state students.
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To the point of "where you graduated from has nothing to do with your success," I agree but that being said, many of the top firms in high-paying fields only hire from certain schools. Not saying it's right - and it also depends on how you define success.
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Old 02-11-2019, 11:32 AM
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But getting your foot in the door is another thing, a lot of resumes are shit canned if the right school is not on the resume. It aint right, but life aint fair.
"the right school" is just not even a "thing" for 99% of companies.
i worked at one of the largest management consulting firms in the world and it was regularly named "most desired job out of school", "best place to start career", etc. and we never excluded candidates based on the school from which they graduated. while many firms do target specific campus for direct, on-campus recruiting it doesnt exclude candidates from other schools. in fact, in the past few years, there have been MANY articles written stating how kids graduating from large state universities have become more desirable new hires than grad from small "prestigious" colleges.
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Old 02-11-2019, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by drowning shrimp View Post

I already have the ditch digger ,his older brother and myself for that matter . I moved up to ditch digger supervisor.
Hope this one does well so older brother moves in with him.
The only job that you start out at the top.

The ditch is already there you just have to get the dirt OUT.

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I'm a firm believer in there is a reason for everything. If he has his heart set on UF (said no engineer ever) then he can take classes at a CC and transfer.

There are other (better) in state and out of state choices. Purdue blows UF out of the water for engineering if you can swing the tuition and cold
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Old 02-11-2019, 11:44 AM
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Proud FSU graduate here.

Dont discount the pricy private schools. The aid and merit package can get the cost down.

Go go to the best school you can get into if you are getting a real degree and not women’s studies.

MIT
Stanford
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Even if the school would cost $100k more, in the next 50 years of working, the MIT brand will easily get you more. My advice is look again at Purdue. The long term benefit is much bigger.
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Originally Posted by happyjack92 View Post
"the right school" is just not even a "thing" for 99% of companies.
i worked at one of the largest management consulting firms in the world and it was regularly named "most desired job out of school", "best place to start career", etc. and we never excluded candidates based on the school from which they graduated. while many firms do target specific campus for direct, on-campus recruiting it doesnt exclude candidates from other schools. in fact, in the past few years, there have been MANY articles written stating how kids graduating from large state universities have become more desirable new hires than grad from small "prestigious" colleges.
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I went to UF from 85-90 and have a good friend that graduated from UF medical school and is currently the director of a busy ER....we both agree that we could not get into UF today as a freshman. ER doc friends daughter is a senior in HS this year and applied to UF, along with a few other schools and she has always been in AP classes, 4.0 or higher, volunteer work, couple of years of foreign language, etc and didn't get accepted to UF. On thing to mention is that every person that has an AA degree will automatically be accepted to UF as a junior.......go to community college or another 4 yr university, get an AA and transfer to UF if that is the ultimate goal. Getting accepted to the engineering program once the school transfers you in as an AA degree holder may be another story. I think something like just over 20,000 people applied to UF for this years incoming fall freshman class and they only accepted 1600......no shame in not getting accepted, many highly qualified people got turned away.
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Originally Posted by captbone View Post
Proud FSU graduate here.

Dont discount the pricy private schools. The aid and merit package can get the cost down.

Go go to the best school you can get into if you are getting a real degree and not women’s studies.

MIT
Stanford
Duke
UNC

Even if the school would cost $100k more, in the next 50 years of working, the MIT brand will easily get you more. My advice is look again at Purdue. The long term benefit is much bigger.
there's *some* truth to this, but it's not solely based on the school's name / brand. here's the ROI list: https://www.payscale.com/college-roi

networking is definitely an important component for career success. larger universities tend to have larger, stronger networks. however, it only takes one good referral to get you in the door; after that, it's all on the candidate to interview well (like someone mentioned earlier in this thread).


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I went to UF from 85-90 and have a good friend that graduated from UF medical school and is currently the director of a busy ER....we both agree that we could not get into UF today as a freshman. ER doc friends daughter is a senior in HS this year and applied to UF, along with a few other schools and she has always been in AP classes, 4.0 or higher, volunteer work, couple of years of foreign language, etc and didn't get accepted to UF. On thing to mention is that every person that has an AA degree will automatically be accepted to UF as a junior.......go to community college or another 4 yr university, get an AA and transfer to UF if that is the ultimate goal. Getting accepted to the engineering program once the school transfers you in as an AA degree holder may be another story. I think something like just over 20,000 people applied to UF for this years incoming fall freshman class and they only accepted 1600......no shame in not getting accepted, many highly qualified people got turned away.
1600? Think that is probably about 10,000 short if talking total school.

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Originally Posted by Diverboy View Post
I went to UF from 85-90 and have a good friend that graduated from UF medical school and is currently the director of a busy ER....we both agree that we could not get into UF today as a freshman. ER doc friends daughter is a senior in HS this year and applied to UF, along with a few other schools and she has always been in AP classes, 4.0 or higher, volunteer work, couple of years of foreign language, etc and didn't get accepted to UF. On thing to mention is that every person that has an AA degree will automatically be accepted to UF as a junior.......go to community college or another 4 yr university, get an AA and transfer to UF if that is the ultimate goal. Getting accepted to the engineering program once the school transfers you in as an AA degree holder may be another story. I think something like just over 20,000 people applied to UF for this years incoming fall freshman class and they only accepted 1600......no shame in not getting accepted, many highly qualified people got turned away.
I believe having an AA only guarantees you acceptance to a Florida University, not necessarily UF. My daughter went through all this when applying a couple of years ago.
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Originally Posted by Ahoy Vay View Post


1600? Think that is probably about 10,000 short if talking total school.

You are correct, my numbers were a bit off...in 2018, 40,849 applied and 11, 741 got accepted to the fall semester. Curious as to what the 2019 numbers will be when published.


During the weekend, 14,866 students received acceptance letters from the University of Florida, getting the opportunity to be part of UF’s class of 2022.

The school received 40,849 applications and admitted 36 percent of applicants, it announced Monday. Of those, 11,741 were admitted for the fall 2018 semester, and 3,125 were admitted for the summer B 2018 semester.

The Innovation Academy, which offers students classes in the spring 2019 semester and leaves fall semesters open for study abroad or internship opportunities, admitted 649 students, and 2,271 students were admitted to the university’s Pathway to Campus Enrollment program, which starts students in online courses before allowing them to become a residential student once they’ve received 60 credit hours.

The university has an enrollment goal of 6,400 students for fall and summer B semesters combined, meaning 57 percent of accepted students likely won’t enroll at UF.

Of admitted students, the average high school weighted GPA is 4.4. The middle 50 percent GPA span is 4.2 to 4.6. The average SAT score is 1364, with the middle 50 percent span between 1300 and 1440, and the average ACT score is 30 with the middle 50 percent span between 29 and 33.

Last year, UF received 35,000 applications and admitted 13,366, or 38 percent of applicants, not including the 983 Innovation Academy students accepted.

Florida State University reported that it received more than 48,000 first-year applications for admission to the 2018 summer and fall semesters before the first round of decisions that were released Jan. 25.

That number is already ahead of last year’s record total of 41,411 applications for first-year admission to the Tallahassee campus. The final round of decisions for first-year applicants will be announced March 29.

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Originally Posted by fishknut View Post
I believe having an AA only guarantees you acceptance to a Florida University, not necessarily UF. My daughter went through all this when applying a couple of years ago.
From the UF admissions website:

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You are eligible if you...

  • Have completed an Associate of Arts degree from a Florida public institution or at least 60 transferable semester credit hours from a regionally accredited institution.
  • Can show proficiency in a foreign language. You can do this by providing a high school transcript showing that you completed two years of the same foreign language OR by completing 8-10 semester hours of the same foreign language.
  • If you speak a foreign language, you can show proficiency by taking a CLEP or SAT II exam or providing an official letter from a professor that teaches that language stating that you are fluent. If you have questions, please contact admissions.
  • Have a minimum 2.0 overall GPA and a minimum 2.0 GPA from your last attended institution, as calculated by UF.
  • Have completed or will complete specific requirements for your intended major before attending UF. Visit your intended college's website or contact them directly to be sure that you meet all of their requirements.
  • You are in good standing and eligible to return to any institution previously attended
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Originally Posted by Ahoy Vay View Post


1600? Think that is probably about 10,000 short if talking total school.
Not quite
42% of 32,747 admitted, 6,648 total freshman class

Engineering would be an even smaller number than that.
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1390 SAT is excellent, the 26 ACT is not. Also a 4.0 weighted is not that great these days. For engineering anywhere he goes employers will know he is a smart kid. No doubt if you get into a great engineering school it matters but if its not tier one its doesnt matter as much as he gets the degree.

Entrance into college these days can be a crap shoot even for exc students. I have 2 daughters who never got a B in their life ( over 5.0 weighted)) , 32 ACT, 1500 SAT (760 M, 740 V), pres and vp of student council, went to States in 2 different sports, capt of all their sports teams-- didnt get into 1 Ivy. They were beautiful white rich girls from a suburban private school. You need to have a struggle, be from a particular group they are seeking, or be extremely unique these days to get into the top schools.

I have several family members that went to MIT, Harvard, Columbia, a brother that is a professor at MIT but times have changed. State schools like UF are like getting into an IVY of yesteryear.
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