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Old 01-24-2019, 11:43 AM
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They were mentioned 4-5 times throughout the thread, should have been mentioned in every one - No question, hands down, get a CAT.
Our local chiropractors recommend them to all their patients who simply must continue boating despite the advise to stop.
I challenge you to take one for a ride in 2-3's or 3-4's and experience the night and day difference.

Picture/Imagine/Realize this: Everyone on a mono-hull including the Capt. will brace for impact however small or big EVERY time you breach a wave. Have to assume that happens a thousand times in a given fishing day. Every muscle tenses up in preparation for the hit, the knees ankles, back and neck absorb the hit. It's like a 6-8 hour high rep workout! No wonder we older people feel like we just went 10 rounds with Stallone after a full day of fishing.

Picture/Imagine/Realize this: The first descent wave you approach in a cat, everyone naturally tenses up, and when the boat floats over it like a puff of smoke from a cigar in the wind, with virtually zero hit - The entire crew will look at the Capt. with amazement and disbelief. Due to the lack of the 8 hour workout, you come home with energy to clean and enough to head out on the town for the night.

Once you go Cat, you will never go back and wonder why you didn't do this 15 years ago!
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Old 01-24-2019, 01:26 PM
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x16 on a Cat. They have some quirks but youll get used to them in a trip or two and be good to go from there.

Something I didnt see mentioned much is watching what you eat/drink while you're out there. Im significantly younger than you but there is a noticeable difference in how I feel while fishing (and especially diving) if I am well hydrated and eat. Hydration starts the day before with a lot of water and continues until I am heading in (beer:30). It takes a conscious effort for me to stay hydrated throughout the day, but I try to drink a bottle of water every hour or so with a few gatorades or a pedialyte thrown in. Eating is also a big part, but less significant than hydration. Fruit, a sandwich, chips, crackers, whatever, but I try to stay away from things that are too salty or greasy.

Also, if any of you older WISER fishermen need a helping hand to relieve some of the exhaustion then feel free to give me a shout
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Old 01-24-2019, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by cobraarvey View Post
I've been there, and unfortunately unless you find the fountain of youth, there is only so much you can do. Most points made above are all correct and some of the comfort suggestions, (shoes/mats/weather/fitness), will help you feel a bit less fatigued after a day on the water. But the reality is, due to your age, in a 20FT CC there is nothing that will significantly alleviate your fatigue.

I ran a 28FT Southport for 8 years. It is considered to have one of the best rides in it's class, and is extremely stable on the troll, (which is what we do). We pick our days, and generally only run on days where conditions are 2-3FT in 8 second intervals or better, (although we certainly had many days that far exceeded those conditions in some tournaments, and when the weather would deteriorate as we were out there). Made almost 90 trips to the Canyons (average 70 miles each way) during that time period. I was age 50-58.during those years, and in excellent shape. As the years progressed, it became harder for us (my crew is made up mostly of guys about the same age), to recover. Trips here in the NE require us to leave at 2AM, and we often don't return until 7PM. The reality is, a center console is a young man's boat for offshore/canyon runs here in the NE.

Purchased a 36FT Express, that weighs 24,000LBS dry (vs. 5500LB center console), and has two massive diesels under our deck, vs. all the weight of the twin Yamaha F250's hanging off the back of the Southport. What a difference. When I first moved into the Express, friends would ask, "is it that much different running the Express vs. the CC". My answer was that when I return, I'm still tired. I have been up since 2AM, and have been at the helm almost the entire 17 or 18 hours. But now when I return, I can go out for a nice evening with my wife instead of going straight to bed. My body is not completely drained/fatigued. The next day, I'm able to work on cleaning up the boat and gear without being sore and achy. I don't need 18-24 hours to recover, like I did on the CC. Since I purchased the Express, I have made runs to the Canyons in friends 35FT + CC's. I feel the same as I did in the Southport. Gorgeous, fast boats, that can be to the edge in 2 hours or less. But it's still a center console, with all the weight on the ass end, and the occupants exposed to the elements, (whether in a bean bag or sitting in the leaning post), hanging on bracing/anticipating that next jarring wave if we are running at high speed.

I'm 12 years older than when I began running the CC, and I have almost turned back the clock to when I first began making those trips in 2006 by moving to the Express. Here in the NE, for Canyon fishing, there is no substitute for displacement. Especially for anyone age 50+. My hat's off to the younger crowd that can still make those runs to the edge in the popular CC's of today. I too have many fond memories and spent thousands of hours fishing in one. And I'm not suggesting that you need to make the drastic move to a large diesel powered express. But most will find that as we age and want to continue to do what we love, the reality is we need more displacement or we have to limit our time on the water to only days with ideal conditions.
well put. but for now Ill stik with the southport as I just don't go offshore anymore

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Old 01-24-2019, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Rook66 View Post
How long has it been since you visited your cardiologist? Might be a good time to have a check up.
I'm a cardiologist and a stress test doesn't predict the beatng we all take offshore!
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Old 01-24-2019, 03:39 PM
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Yoga, core training, stretching, cardiologost....damn it man, do yourself and your wife a favor and look at a cat!
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Old 01-24-2019, 08:03 PM
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Waking up in the middle of the night, something ainít right, too exhausted after all day into evening off shore. Whatís wrong? Same as what everyone is saying. By Age 62, drink fluids constantly, Advil before and when you get back, no beer (damn), call it short if 3 to 4 close together seas, stay covered in midday sun.
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Old 01-24-2019, 08:16 PM
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We have a 27' Sea Hunt and I always tell people, going offshore in a small boat might not be exercise, but it's always a workout.
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Old 01-24-2019, 08:19 PM
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Offshore fishing is very taxing on the body. Not for everybody, even when young. I've been able to do it for many years but the older I get the harder it seems to get. Just a part of getting older. Now how these charter mates do it day after day is beyond me.
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Old 01-24-2019, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by tcesar View Post
Honestly I never considered an auto-pilot, but Iím going to research them.
Once you have one, you'll wonder how you did without it. Holds a course better than any person can, (witch saves time and fuel). Makes trolling much easier. If it has a remote, you can run the spread damn near by yourself. And again, the biggest advantage is freeing you up from having to focus/concentrate on steering and reliefs a lot of stress/fatigue. You can kick back and enjoy the scenery, bs with mates, etc. Just don't fall asleep and plow through a bunch of anchored boats.
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Old 01-24-2019, 09:40 PM
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Get an autopilot. You will not regret it. I fish alone alot due to my constantly changing work schedule, this also means I fish alot of subpar days with poor conditions. Long runs and trolling are a breeze now. Especially in rough seas where I was constantly back and forth tending the rods, then back to the helm for corrections. I have a couple of runs that are 60 miles, my best cruising speed is around 30kts, so its a 1.5hr to 2 hr run each way. Its no problem when you are heading directly into or against the seas, but when quartering it will wear you down. I was always beat by the time we would arrive at the spot. I just made this same run yesterday. Basically just kicked back, relaxed, listed to tunes, rerigged a few rods, ate lunch, and just looked for idiots and birds on the run in and out. I actually extended my fishing time by 3 hrs due to arriving fresh and relaxed. An autopilot will also save you some fuel on longer runs by staying on course.
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Old 01-24-2019, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JONOV View Post
What kind of shoes do you wear? someone mentioned an anti-fatigue mat which is also on the same line. I'd seriously look a a pair of birkenstock sandals.
And they're cheap too...

...they'll only cost you your Man Card.
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Old 01-25-2019, 01:36 AM
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Getting old sucks. But the alylternative is worse. I take the aches and soreness as a warm fuzzy feeling vs. that putz who spent the whole weekend chasing a little white ball with an iron club in an electric cart and calls it sport.

You worked out a lot more and way longer on the boat than the short trips to the gym.
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Old 01-25-2019, 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Flybull View Post
And they're cheap too...

...they'll only cost you your Man Card.

Crocs are a close second!
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Old 01-25-2019, 04:01 AM
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You're 55yo and feel like you got ran over by a train the next day, hell I felt like that when I was in my 20's. Ive worked out 5 days a week since I was 15yo, in perfect shape and it still would crush me. Go run out 40-60 miles fish sun up to sun down isn't a joke. Tournaments were even worse, go fish a tournament the first day, can barely move the next day. The day after the second day, I'm out of commission for a day. Fishing in little boats will make you feel like you been in a title fight the next day. Once I turned 35 and got rid of my 23 and under boats and got my couple 33's it was night a day difference. You could out in whatever weather you want in the 33's and come back home and feel like you just went on a river cruise. No more feeling like I went to battle with the ocean and she kicked my ass. Would never go offshore in a boat under 32 with under 9'6" beam ever again after fishing in the big boats.
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Old 01-25-2019, 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by tcesar View Post
Hey everyone!

Would like to get some feedback/advice. After ~6-8 hours on the water...20ft CC, moderate seas, saltwater trolling, sun etc. Note, I often fish solo. After I clean the boat and fish, Iím beat to hell for the next 24-36hrs... Iím in decent shape @55yrs. Exercise 3x a week. Iím not a jock, but Iím no slouch either. No ailments. Donít booze/drugs. What gives?

Iíve concluding that after I take my boat out, the following day Iím going to pay the price. Itís especially hard if I work the next day? Is this just me, or do others experience this? Note: Itís totally worth the pain, but whoa!!!

Any advice for a sore fisherman? LoL.
I'm 69, do drink a little, don't work out but do some yard work, I trailer my pontoon wherever I go. Lot of work sometimes getting everything ready, lifting up stuff to put on the boat, equipment, coolers, etc. Then sit in hot sun, make around 500 casts a day probably, (used to make 1000 in bass tourneys). Then come home clean up boat, unload everything, put boat away, clean fish, then crash on my chair to watch tv. I do this at least once, sometimes more per week so my whole body aches. I used to be big into contact sports, motor cycle racing, sky and scuba diving so have many old sports injuries, back surgery, 8 knee surgeries with major surgery from Diverticulitis so guts and belly still hurts off and on. I'm going to keep taking my boat out and fishing if I have to crawl to do it I love it, and the hell with aches and pains. Suck it up!
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Old 01-25-2019, 06:59 AM
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Drink More Water,... A LOT MORE. Have to flush the toxins out and you get dehydrated regardless of the temp. I'm in way worse shape than you.
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Old 01-25-2019, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by catch232 View Post
Got an autopilot? If not, it helps relieve some of the stress.
I agree with this 100%! After running a boat with AP and not having to steer and correct course all day it lowered they fatigue factor a lot. Especially on those 40+ mile runs offshore. Being able to kick the feet up and just watch ahead instead of fighting to keep the boat tracking makes a big difference.
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Old 01-25-2019, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by proaudioguy View Post
Drink More Water,... A LOT MORE. Have to flush the toxins out and you get dehydrated regardless of the temp. I'm in way worse shape than you.
This!!! Hydrate! I'm 46 and in great shape. I realized I was not drinking enough water. Too busy focusing on fishing and not realizing how thirsty I was...... Hugh difference when I dropped the beer and picked up the water bottle. Not as much fun though...
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Old 01-25-2019, 08:15 AM
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I've seen a number of posts suggesting a new boat but I don't think I saw any about changing your motor. I switched from Yamaha hpdi's to Suzuki four strokes about a year and a half ago and one of the things I was surprised with is that I am significantly less tired after a day of fishing. The reduced noise and no longer having a vague concern in the back of my head about having motor issues has made a big difference for me.
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Old 01-25-2019, 08:39 AM
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I'm 51 and and agree with the advice given. A bigger, wider boat will help, and possibly allow your wife to enjoy fishing with you. Look at your routine and the efficiency of it. I trailer our 31' and a habit that has helped me tremendously is finding a freshwater ramp between your house and the inlet. When we are done fishing and back on the trailer, I pull the plug and head straight to the freshwater ramp. Ill back in with the plug out, fire the motors and let them run while I flush the live well pumps, flush the saltwater wash down pump,rinse of all my gear, I throw my cast net in a milk carton and let it soak (don't forget it at the ramp, lesson learned the hard way). This also affords my trailer, brakes, etc a great soak in freshwater. Last but not least, with the plug out I can verify my float switches to the bilge pumps are working and the bilge pumps are flushed as well. This 10 minute habit allows to me to clean the inside of the boat pretty well also. When I get home, all I have left is to unload gear and wash the outside. I believe this cuts an easy 45 min off the of my day.

Good luck with it. I am envious of all you 70 year olds still out there, I hope to join your club in time.
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