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Old 01-11-2019, 07:50 AM
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All you people sharing your password for Netflix are going to Flix Jail.

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Old 01-11-2019, 07:53 AM
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Creepy artificial intelligence?

They just look at logins vs IPs and ban those who have constant logins from multiple locations/devices according to a certain pattern. Its not that hard.
I love these fear mongering articles.
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:47 AM
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I don't see what the problem is. Netflix allows you to purchase plans based on how many screens at one time can be used. It also allows you to set up profiles, for each user on the account.

We have a plan with my parents that allows 4 devices at a time. I have no idea why it should make a difference if we are all under one roof each watching a different show in a different room of the house, or across town in 2 different homes watching netflix, or on vacation or a business trip some place around the world watching it. We are paying to use 4 devices at one time.
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Old 01-11-2019, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by beber View Post
I don't see what the problem is. Netflix allows you to purchase plans based on how many screens at one time can be used. It also allows you to set up profiles, for each user on the account.

We have a plan with my parents that allows 4 devices at a time. I have no idea why it should make a difference if we are all under one roof each watching a different show in a different room of the house, or across town in 2 different homes watching netflix, or on vacation or a business trip some place around the world watching it. We are paying to use 4 devices at one time.
Us too. My parents have a login setup on our account that they use. I am guessing what this article is referencing is people sharing their login and password with others. As in, you have a four device limit. so, you share your individual login with all your buddies. You all use it keeping the devices logged in at or below four. Still, not sure how it is against their rules as long as four devices are the max logged in at once. I don't remember reading that you had to only use the same devices or such.
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Originally Posted by beber View Post
I don't see what the problem is. Netflix allows you to purchase plans based on how many screens at one time can be used. It also allows you to set up profiles, for each user on the account.

We have a plan with my parents that allows 4 devices at a time. I have no idea why it should make a difference if we are all under one roof each watching a different show in a different room of the house, or across town in 2 different homes watching netflix, or on vacation or a business trip some place around the world watching it. We are paying to use 4 devices at one time.
From the Netflix Terms of Use page: https://help.netflix.com/legal/termsofuse

4.2. The Netflix service and any content viewed through our service are for your personal and non-commercial use only and may not be shared with individuals beyond your household.
I guess it depends on their definition of "household"?
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Originally Posted by beber View Post
I don't see what the problem is. Netflix allows you to purchase plans based on how many screens at one time can be used. It also allows you to set up profiles, for each user on the account.

We have a plan with my parents that allows 4 devices at a time. I have no idea why it should make a difference if we are all under one roof each watching a different show in a different room of the house, or across town in 2 different homes watching netflix, or on vacation or a business trip some place around the world watching it. We are paying to use 4 devices at one time.
Not true.

It's right there in the terms and conditions.
  • 4.2. The Netflix service and any content viewed through our service are for your personal and non-commercial use only and may not be shared with individuals beyond your household. During your Netflix membership, we grant you a limited, non-exclusive, non-transferable right to access the Netflix service and view Netflix content through the service. Except for the foregoing, no right, title or interest shall be transferred to you. You agree not to use the service for public performances.
It's a service billed per household not per device used.

Flix jail could include a ban/refund of services but in their defense it's in the terms and conditions that nobody reads. In reality they're just looking for people sharing with people for money and extreme cases. Sharing your password with your mom would probably be ignored or at most they'd warn you.

They don't want the bad press of banning a guy for giving his retired mother a password.
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Old 01-11-2019, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by beber View Post
I don't see what the problem is. Netflix allows you to purchase plans based on how many screens at one time can be used. It also allows you to set up profiles, for each user on the account.

We have a plan with my parents that allows 4 devices at a time. I have no idea why it should make a difference if we are all under one roof each watching a different show in a different room of the house, or across town in 2 different homes watching netflix, or on vacation or a business trip some place around the world watching it. We are paying to use 4 devices at one time.
Basically, the pricing is based on anticipated usage and value. For example, on a 4 screen plan they base the price on the assumption that on average you will mostly only use 2 screens at once (just an example). For a single household this is likely to hold true, people commonly watch things together, but sometimes like to watch different stuff at the same time and want the flexibility to peak to 4 screens at once. When you share your account outside of your household, it ups the average amount of streaming you are doing, which does increase their backend costs.

In the grand scheme of things, it's not a huge deal if a couple of people do this, and they account for that too, but to answer your question, it "makes a difference" because your use case is not what they priced the plan around.
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Originally Posted by Onewolf View Post
From the Netflix Terms of Use page: https://help.netflix.com/legal/termsofuse



I guess it depends on their definition of "household"?
Household is a house and the people who live in it.
Technically kids at college still count as part of "household" in most cases like this. Now giving it to YOUR parents that have their own house and income etc? Yeah, no, sorry.
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Old 01-11-2019, 09:24 AM
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Could you imagine if Snap-On sold you a wrench but put in their conditions of sale "Only if you use it at home in your own garage"?
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Originally Posted by km1125 View Post
Could you imagine if Snap-On sold you a wrench but put in their conditions of sale "Only if you use it at home in your own garage"?
Netflix is not saying you can only use Netflix _in_ your house, but they are saying that only people in your household (immediate family) should have access to the account password.
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Old 01-11-2019, 12:40 PM
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Y'all should read some of the small print in software licensing agreements.
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Old 01-11-2019, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by cwhite6 View Post
Us too. My parents have a login setup on our account that they use. I am guessing what this article is referencing is people sharing their login and password with others. As in, you have a four device limit. so, you share your individual login with all your buddies. You all use it keeping the devices logged in at or below four. Still, not sure how it is against their rules as long as four devices are the max logged in at once. I don't remember reading that you had to only use the same devices or such.
Your parents live with you? If not, off to jail...
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What about kids in school or in the military?

Guess I am going to have to dig out my football card and unlooper.

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Old 01-11-2019, 04:23 PM
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If they’re in the military they’re an adult and need to pay their own way through life like the rest of us adults.
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Old 01-11-2019, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by rdmallory View Post
What about kids in school or in the military?

Guess I am going to have to dig out my football card and unlooper.

Doug
Oh man, those were the good old days. (allegedly)
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Originally Posted by ericinmich View Post
Your parents live with you? If not, off to jail...
About 2 miles.
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About 2 miles.
Sounds like you are violating your terms of agreement!

I have 2 kids at college, that will be OK with their terms of agreement. Once they their own place then they will have to get their own account. It's 10 bucks a month, I would hope they could afford it.
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Originally Posted by ericinmich View Post
Sounds like you are violating your terms of agreement!

I have 2 kids at college, that will be OK with their terms of agreement. Once they their own place then they will have to get their own account. It's 10 bucks a month, I would hope they could afford it.
They can come lock me up then. 😝
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Is there anyone who really does not understand what is happening here and why they would want to curb it ?
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the real crime is what cable comanies charge
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