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Step in the right direction - Florida Red Tide Management

Old 01-10-2019, 07:19 PM
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Old 01-10-2019, 07:31 PM
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Incredible go Ron
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Old 01-10-2019, 07:32 PM
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Is there confirmation that this document is official?

"Water Quality" includes red tide
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Old 01-10-2019, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by raystein View Post
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Is there confirmation that this document is official?

It says nothing about red tide management.
It was on the local news tonight.
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Old 01-10-2019, 07:37 PM
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Is there confirmation that this document is official?
Its legit it was in the Stuart news. Additionally the gov is appointing a very vocal and strong supporter of clean water to the board. Its a step in the right direction. Additionally the president approved funding for research and a study into the algae problem as well. Small steps nothing earth shattering but better than a kick to the head
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Maybe he'll get that amendment 1 money diverted back from oblivion to what it was meant for.
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Wow! Can't wait to see how this plays out
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What they going to do about the other one???

the Crimson tide.
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Originally Posted by r.waddill View Post
Its legit it was in the Stuart news. Additionally the gov is appointing a very vocal and strong supporter of clean water to the board. Its a step in the right direction. Additionally the president approved funding for research and a study into the algae problem as well. Small steps nothing earth shattering but better than a kick to the head
Uhh..being in the Stuart News makes nothing legit, Russ....

But it IS indeed a step in the right direction. Someone needs to got to the Army Corps of Engineers, and kick some ass also. Lots of lip service has been paid to this issue, but NOTHING serious has been done to date. Hopefully, NOW is the start of the end.

Red tide is not necessarily a man-made issue, it's been going on for centuries. Has it gotten worse in recent years? Maybe.

GREEN algae needs to be addressed just as much. We KNOW where it comes from, what feeds it, and how to get rid of it.
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Old 01-11-2019, 06:39 AM
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Let's hope he follows up on this. At least it will help the algae issue coming out of the lake.
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Oh. That's NOT "Red Tide" he's addressing. SFWMD deals mostly with fresh water, and the green algae in it. Red Tide is an entirely different problem.
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Oh. That's NOT "Red Tide" he's addressing. SFWMD deals mostly with fresh water, and the green algae in it. Red Tide is an entirely different problem.
Red tide is tied to the freshwater discharges.
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That's great but what good will that do the west coast of Florida; there are no freshwater discharges from the Everglades or Indian River agricultural area up here but we still have red tide.
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you can thank Susie Wiles for this 100%. her husband is a boater ( he was taken hostage by gun point in 1983 when working for Reagan at Augusta golf course) and when I see him this summer, I am buying him a drink
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Originally Posted by Windwood View Post
Red tide is tied to the freshwater discharges.

As I understand there is not currently a good understanding of what factors cause the bad red tide events, though it would seem to be correlated to heavy freshwater discharge.
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Originally Posted by raystein View Post
As I understand there is not currently a good understanding of what factors cause the bad red tide events, though it would seem to be correlated to heavy freshwater discharge.
or warm weather with light currents. There is zero proof besides the fact that if fit the political and news agenda the last 2 years.
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Originally Posted by raystein View Post
As I understand there is not currently a good understanding of what factors cause the bad red tide events, though it would seem to be correlated to heavy freshwater discharge.
I went to a seminar last night on water quality. The same things that cause the blooms are what the algae thrives off of so at a certain point the thing they are testing for doesn't exist. Without clean water it will keep happening. The plan for the EAA is a reasonable plan but the science and math says they need more land to clean the water appropriately.

There is a big area by the Mississippi river that has the same issues only the source of there problem is all the way from northern states like Ohio. They believe even that water has an impact on the red tide in SW FL.

Some of the data suggested the high levels of nutrients were caused by:
Rainwater can have a lot of harmful nutrients
I75 running along the coast and highway vehicle pollution
septic systems have a negative impact on water quality
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Originally Posted by raystein View Post
As I understand there is not currently a good understanding of what factors cause the bad red tide events, though it would seem to be correlated to heavy freshwater discharge.
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  • Karenia brevis - found in the Gulf of Mexico along the west coast of Florida

What Causes Red Tide?

Major factors influencing red tide events include warm ocean surface temperatures, low salinity, high nutrient content, calm seas, and rain followed by sunny days during the summer months (NOAA). In addition, algae related to red tide can spread or be carried long distances by winds, currents, storms, or ships.



I have been here a long time. It is an aglae bloom.
algae needs nutrients, sunlight and low salinity
When ever we have a wet winter and okeechobee is full our red tide shows up. I know its naturally occurring. Our water mgmt has been suspect for a very long time.
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Originally Posted by mikefloyd View Post
That's great but what good will that do the west coast of Florida; there are no freshwater discharges from the Everglades or Indian River agricultural area up here but we still have red tide.

Look at the huge freshwater discharges from lake O into the Caloosahatchee river into the gulf. Also the Peace River adds to ag runoff. And just my personal observation but the big red tide out breaks on the west coast have bloomed in SW FL.
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