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Old 01-10-2019, 04:06 PM
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Be careful out there ! Key-less ignition

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ďI couldnít even speak. I was having difficulty walking. I was walking into walls. I was having nausea and dizziness and all kinds of things,Ē Gunn said.

Lingering effects

Gunn underwent 43 days of hyperbaric oxygen therapy. She said she still struggles with fatigue and extreme sensitivity to carbon monoxide, present in places like gas stations and parking garages.
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Old 01-10-2019, 04:08 PM
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Be careful out there ! Key-less ignition

https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/ne...sure-incidents
ďI couldnít even speak. I was having difficulty walking. I was walking into walls. I was having nausea and dizziness and all kinds of things,Ē Gunn said.

Lingering effects

Gunn underwent 43 days of hyperbaric oxygen therapy. She said she still struggles with fatigue and extreme sensitivity to carbon monoxide, present in places like gas stations and parking garages.
Iím thinking a key wouldnít have changed a thing for this idiot
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Old 01-10-2019, 04:14 PM
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I still have to use a key for my 2007 Infiniti. Wife has had the keyless fob on her last three cars and I hate it!

Constantly digging through her her purse to find it, leave it in the car all the time and god forbid you lose one of these fobs, they cost a small fortune to replace.

Do not see the benefit of keyless at all and now this.
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Old 01-10-2019, 04:20 PM
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I thought I wouldn't like keyless, but once I'd used it for a few days and got used to it, I found I really do like it.
As to this situation, I can't recall ever getting out of a car and "forgetting" to shut it off, key or no key.
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Old 01-10-2019, 04:22 PM
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I personally hate keyless ignition. Itís not that I hate the push button aspect of it, itís that there is no good place to put the keys. Hardly any of the vehicles have a designated small spot for them where they donít get in the way or jumbled up with other stuff. And leaving them in my pocket is not an option, as I get stabbed in the thigh. In addition to my ignition key, I have a house key, key to the bed topper, and work key, so itís not like itís a big key ring or anything.
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Originally Posted by signmansez View Post
I still have to use a key for my 2007 Infiniti. Wife has had the keyless fob on her last three cars and I hate it!

Constantly digging through her her purse to find it, leave it in the car all the time and god forbid you lose one of these fobs, they cost a small fortune to replace.

Do not see the benefit of keyless at all and now this.
Why would she dig through the purse to find it? The whole point of keyless ignition is so you can start the car without taking the keys out of your pocket/purse.
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Old 01-10-2019, 04:25 PM
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I don't like it--sometimes my wife and I both have a key and when one leaves the car it beeps.
I'm never sure if the car is locked because if you stand close to the car with the key it will open.....sometimes.

And, as stated--there is no place to put the key.
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My 10 year old car has the best of both worlds in my opinion. It still takes a key, but all you do is turn it for a split second, basically bump it, after you have inserted the key into the ignition. It auto starts once you have initiated the start.

I suppose that, if you are a woman (although nowadays I guess it doesn't matter) and carry a purse, and have keyless entry into your home, as well as don't have to use keys to get into your workplace, then push button start would be nice. You could basically leave the keys in your purse and never have to pull them out again.

As a guy, I find push button start annoying. Of course, my push button start experience has been limited to a couple of rental cars.
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Why would she dig through the purse to find it? The whole point of keyless ignition is so you can start the car without taking the keys out of your pocket/purse.
If I need to use, move or get into her car. I'll end up walking out of the house with her purse to unlock the car. Keys used to end up in the bowl on the counter.

Now they are in the magical purse that makes them invisible to men!
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If I need to use, move or get into her car. I'll end up walking out of the house with her purse to unlock the car. Keys used to end up in the bowl on the counter.

Now they are in the magical purse that makes them invisible to men!
My old lady has so many damn store discount card thingys on her keychain, it's impossible to miss haha.
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Both my wife's car and mine have keyless ignition. If you can't tell if your car is running or not you are too stupid to be driving in the first place.

Mine has automatic adaptive headlights, lane keeping, forward assist braking and adaptive cruise control and I have no problems managing the systems and I have been driving since Nixon was president.

Some of you guys should still be driving horse drawn carriages.
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Old 01-10-2019, 04:57 PM
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What do all of you do with the keys when they arenít the ignition?
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What do all of you do with the keys when they arenít the ignition?
lay them on my desk or key hanger in the kitchen.
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Originally Posted by Seacat FL View Post
Both my wife's car and mine have keyless ignition. If you can't tell if your car is running or not you are too stupid to be driving in the first place.

Mine has automatic adaptive headlights, lane keeping, forward assist braking and adaptive cruise control and I have no problems managing the systems and I have been driving since Nixon was president.

Some of you guys should still be driving horse drawn carriages.
Maybe just the horse. It appears the carriage aspect might be a bit too much technology
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Originally Posted by Seacat FL View Post
Both my wife's car and mine have keyless ignition. If you can't tell if your car is running or not you are too stupid to be driving in the first place.

Mine has automatic adaptive headlights, lane keeping, forward assist braking and adaptive cruise control and I have no problems managing the systems and I have been driving since Nixon was president.

Some of you guys should still be driving horse drawn carriages.
itís not that we are incapable of using the updated features. In this case itís that the ďimprovementĒ solves an issue that never existed, while simultaneously creating an inconvenience. Itís going to be a long time before keys outside of the automotive realm are a thing of the past. Until that time comes, there needs to be a designated small spot in the vehicle for the keys to reside that is not a cup holder or giant console pocket. Cup holders all get used, and the big pockets are inevitably littered with clutter.
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I personally hate keyless ignition. Itís not that I hate the push button aspect of it, itís that there is no good place to put the keys. Hardly any of the vehicles have a designated small spot for them where they donít get in the way or jumbled up with other stuff. And leaving them in my pocket is not an option, as I get stabbed in the thigh. In addition to my ignition key, I have a house key, key to the bed topper, and work key, so itís not like itís a big key ring or anything.
I can sympathize because I hate things in my pockets when I drive (manual trans, legs move often).

I am not saying this will work for you, but it does in my case. I learned this by accident because of a beater truck that I keep as well. I keep my truck fob and key on a tiny keychain, my daily car's fob by itself, and all other keys plus a bad ass light on one ring that I want with me no matter what I drive.

My ritual for getting in a driver's seat is to pull my wallet, phone, and anything else out of my pockets, including my main key ring. They all go in dedicated spots that I habitually check as I exit the vehicle. Only my keyless fob stays in my pocket because it is tiny and I never notice it in my pocket. That way, ignition and door locking are always operational whenever I am close to the vehicle. I don't think I will ever have a key fob connected to my main set of keys again. It is the only way to make sure that I always have the car key on me.

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lay them on my desk or key hanger in the kitchen.
What about when you go to the butcher shop? Or when youríre field dressing a deer? At the gun range? On the boat? Burning someoneís house down?

Just wondering. Iíve always intentionally kept my key ring light so I wouldnít have all that jiggling around in my pocket. Itís nice not to have to go digging now every time I get back in the car.
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What about when you go to the butcher shop? Or when youríre field dressing a deer? At the gun range? On the boat? Burning someoneís house down?

Just wondering. Iíve always intentionally kept my key ring light so I wouldnít have all that jiggling around in my pocket. Itís nice not to have to go digging now every time I get back in the car.
in my pocket. Iím standing up in those situations. Itís when I sit down that I inevitably get stabbed by a random key pointing the wrong way. And no, I donít wear tight pants, and am definitely not doing a belt clip and looking like a janitor.
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My keyless remote,
House key
Workshop key
on the small carbiner hanging from my belt loop.

Works for me. YMMV
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My cars "ford" shut themselves off after 15min if there is no change in the idling vehicle.
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