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Walther PPS M.2 and Walther CCP M.2

Old 01-10-2019, 05:56 PM
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I know the early CCP's had issues. I want to say they have fixed them for the newest version. The PPS has always been a good gun it seems. I like my P99's paddle mag release. Seems Walther is going away from it though.
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Old 01-10-2019, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by semperfifishing View Post
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.357......I would not like to face tis one at close range...lol
I have a small derringer in .38 and .357. .38 hurts, .357 Is BRUTAL. Its a double barrel and I hate shooting it,
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I like the PPS over the CCP..

The one I am looking at has the three MAGAZINES and night sights. That isn't the driver. I like the the way if feels,
Fixed it for ya

CZ is coming out soon with both a full size and a subcompact version of their CZ P10 compact. For carry you might wanna take a look at the subcompact model

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Old 01-10-2019, 06:31 PM
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Last time we were at the shooting range my youngest son was thinking about buying one of Springfield’s CC weapons and rented one of their 45 compacts.
Only shot it twice but that thing would tear your hand up.

I tried to warn him about high caliber compacts but he just wouldn’t listen.

Live and learn.
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Riptied View Post
Last time we were at the shooting range my youngest son was thinking about buying one of Springfield’s CC weapons and rented one of their 45 compacts.
Only shot it twice but that thing would tear your hand up.

I tried to warn him about high caliber compacts but he just wouldn’t listen.

Live and learn.

It's more about the aggressive serrations on that pistol. Not so much the caliber. I have two of them . One in 40 and one in 45
Just need to get more time with them and it doesn't effect you.


https://talongungrips.com/grips/spri...full-size.html

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Old 01-11-2019, 12:13 PM
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I have the PPS. A joy to shoot after a short break in period. The CCP appeals to women as it was designed so the slide is easier to rack with less felt recoil.
Glock is coming out with a 43X that will carry 10 rounds like the SIG 365 . I prefer the glock for comfort in the hand. IMHO the VP9 is too big for concealed carry BUT it is a dream to shoot. Whatever you buy be sure it fits your hand. If you are new to handguns, take a few lessons it will help you find the right gun for you. As suggested renting is a good idea if possible.
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Old 01-11-2019, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by EMC Pursuit View Post
I have a small derringer in .38 and .357. .38 hurts, .357 Is BRUTAL. Its a double barrel and I hate shooting it,
Buddy had a classic style 2 shot derringer in .357. He said shooting it was like holding out your hand and letting someone swat it with a baseball bat.
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Old 01-14-2019, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by xl883lo View Post
Buddy had a classic style 2 shot derringer in .357. He said shooting it was like holding out your hand and letting someone swat it with a baseball bat.
Thats about what the .38 felt like, and spewed sparks like a dragon. No way all the powder burnt in the short barrel. Its still in the safe but I have no desire to shoot it,
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Originally Posted by Riptied View Post
Last time we were at the shooting range my youngest son was thinking about buying one of Springfieldís CC weapons and rented one of their 45 compacts.
Only shot it twice but that thing would tear your hand up.

I tried to warn him about high caliber compacts but he just wouldnít listen.

Live and learn.
I Tried a Karh CM45 and I would rather be very familier with a gun that I carry, I want to be able to take it to the range, fire 50+ rounds and feel comfortable, I was NOT comfortable with the CM45.
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Old 01-14-2019, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Riptied View Post
Canít go wrong with a Walther, Quality weapons.

Very ergonomic in your hand and they come with different sized grips for different hands.
Have Never had a jamb.

Iíll take a Walther over a Glock any day.

Let the flaming begin.
no flaming here but has the Walther name not been sold to other manufacturers now? I.e. a new walther isn't really made by walther?
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Old 01-20-2019, 03:04 AM
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Winter Project: Just bought a PPS M2 LE as my first CCW. Taking course, getting training, and practicing a lot before I carry, though. Branding on the side indicates mine was manufactured in Germany (DE) in 2018.
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Originally Posted by whorrall View Post
no flaming here but has the Walther name not been sold to other manufacturers now? I.e. a new walther isn't really made by walther?
Have no idea but seriously doubt it.

Do you have some info on the subject to shed light?
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Originally Posted by Riptied View Post


Have no idea but seriously doubt it.

Do you have some info on the subject to shed light?
Like many firearms manufacturers Walther licenses its name to certain manufacturers (i.e. Umarex) to produce pellet & airsoft replicas

https://www.umarexusa.com/


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Two nights ago I’m taking a shower and the wife races in “A coyote attacked Storm (our Great Pyrenees) in the back yard. By the time I get out of the shower the dogs are in the kitchen panting and getting examined. Our back yard has a 6’ privacy fence BTW. No blood. Okay, what makes yo think it was a coyote? By all the noise.... I don’t think so, sounds like a raccoon... All is well (except if we had Valium, I would’ve given her one, the wife). Pissed off she forgot her .38 in the bed stand back in SD, only has the little .22 auto, my 1911, and the 870.... So you know what that led to, the gun store. I was thinking a used .410, but she wants another .38 she can leave here. So we came home with Taurus 856 .38 revolver 2” barrel she can keep in the bed stand here, and exactly what I was looking for to open carry when we go off road out west. I like it. Riding our UTVs out there gets real dusty, She carries her Ruger in a zipped case, in a storage compartment, only takes it out when she gets off and goes looking for privacy to tinkle. I will get another holster I can afix somewhere handy in my UTV & my in my Jeep.
I’m getting old I guess, no real interest in cleaning anything more every time we get home, two UTV’s are enough thank you.
Under $350, and a descent reputation for working. Today, it’s raining and I see us at the range for a few hours, it’ll be fun!
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Originally Posted by Elusive View Post
Like many firearms manufacturers Walther licenses its name to certain manufacturers (i.e. Umarex) to produce pellet & airsoft replicas

https://www.umarexusa.com/
Walther merged with umarex in the mid 90's. There are generally 2 types of walthers. Walthers built in the Walther factory in Ulm Germany, and walthers built by umarex in the arnsburg factory. General consensus is that Ulm made walthers are superior. P99, PPQ, PPX, PPS and Creed are Ulm made walthers. The PPK is made by Smith and Wesson because Walther can't import them or something like that. The rest are made by umarex (p22, ccp, pk380, .22 rifles etc.).
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Originally Posted by Elgreco809 View Post
Walther merged with umarex in the mid 90's. There are generally 2 types of walthers. Walthers built in the Walther factory in Ulm Germany, and walthers built by umarex in the arnsburg factory. General consensus is that Ulm made walthers are superior. P99, PPQ, PPX, PPS and Creed are Ulm made walthers. The PPK is made by Smith and Wesson because Walther can't import them or something like that. The rest are made by umarex (p22, ccp, pk380, .22 rifles etc.).
And Walther makes the S&W M&P22 pistol. Lots of licensing, partnerships and arrangements that are not widely known
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Originally Posted by Riptied View Post
Canít go wrong with a Walther, Quality weapons.

Very ergonomic in your hand and they come with different sized grips for different hands.
Have Never had a jamb.

Iíll take a Walther over a Glock any day.

Let the flaming begin.
Seriously?! I have a P22 Target and it's such a piece o crap! Its an Airsoft gun that shoots bullets! Its deficiencies are well known and a number of gun forums helped me mod it to wear it shoots OK. Will jam on 80% of the ammo I tried, every shot the carriage wears down from poor metal on metal design, the extractor is too short so there are a number of aftermartket ones that fix the problem, etc. I had "known" the name and Mass has stupid pistol rules so there were only a few target pistols I could buy and I thought the P22 would be a good buy - not at all! I have a Ruger and you put the two next to each other, it's easy to see that one is a firearm and the other is a toy!
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Seriously?! I have a P22 Target and it's such a piece o crap! Its an Airsoft gun that shoots bullets! Its deficiencies are well known and a number of gun forums helped me mod it to wear it shoots OK. Will jam on 80% of the ammo I tried, every shot the carriage wears down from poor metal on metal design, the extractor is too short so there are a number of aftermartket ones that fix the problem, etc. I had "known" the name and Mass has stupid pistol rules so there were only a few target pistols I could buy and I thought the P22 would be a good buy - not at all! I have a Ruger and you put the two next to each other, it's easy to see that one is a firearm and the other is a toy!
As mentioned the P22 is manufactured by Umarex and on-par with quality of a pellet or airsoft gun. I bought one hoping it would make a good trainer for kids or those not familiar with firearms. It's very picky about ammo. Not the same quality of other Walther pistols.

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So today I had a chance to shoot a PPS and a Sig 365. I have fallen in love with the Sig..
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My son and I took the PPS M2 to a local gun range today. A couple of hours of loud fun! Iím very happy with the way it shoots. I will need better hearing protection, though.
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