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Old 01-11-2019, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by coastalfiberglass View Post
I don’t care if ya smoke or not. But damn keep this crazy shit out west in the land of fruits and nuts! I vote hell no on legalize in VA. It’s deatroying communities out west.
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..and all this time I thought it was about that wall thing destroying communities..
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Originally Posted by coastalfiberglass View Post
I don’t care if ya smoke or not. But damn keep this crazy shit out west in the land of fruits and nuts! I vote hell no on legalize in VA. It’s deatroying communities out west.
More like the DEA and feds ruining what would otherwise be legitimate businesses by treating all their money like it came from a cartel.
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Old 01-11-2019, 03:51 PM
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I say legalize it and plant it in every highway ditch, interstate median and waterway shore. It wouldn't be worth 10 cents a pound and that alone would remedy the worst it harms society. Its taboo, black market, criminal enterprise status elevates it to cool to get by with endeavor. Imho we have wasted enough cash, enough blood, enough sweat and tears on propping up a black market that is all to often secretly used for gains and profit by the self same ones that want it to stay illegal.
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Drugs should be legal. They should be sold and taxed and people should be taught that if you want to accomplish something in life, it's probably not a good idea to get stoned all day, or drunk all day or addicted. A good bit of the tax money could be spent on rehabilitation. Show me somebody who works full time and goes to school at night, getting good grades and doing well at work while getting stoned or drinking every night. It's tough to do.
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Originally Posted by Ormond Bert54 View Post
Drugs should be legal. They should be sold and taxed and people should be taught that if you want to accomplish something in life, it's probably not a good idea to get stoned all day, or drunk all day or addicted. A good bit of the tax money could be spent on rehabilitation. Show me somebody who works full time and goes to school at night, getting good grades and doing well at work while getting stoned or drinking every night. It's tough to do.
Your kidding with that statement at the end of your quote. Plenty of responsible people smoke every day.
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Old 01-11-2019, 05:28 PM
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Legalization doesn't always work. Just heard on the news that people are still buying from dealers because the other stuff is too expensive due to taxes.
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Decriminalize not legalize. Get the government out of it.
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Originally Posted by joe.giuliano View Post
Decriminalize not legalize. Get the government out of it.
...and no sin tax. Sick of that.
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Old 01-11-2019, 10:57 PM
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Very interesting. I am somewhere between legalize and decriminalize. 100% legal may be a pain in the ass with employees coming to work on cloud 9--more so than they already do.

I did some research and VA had a bill to decriminalize last session and it was voted down 1-7 in subcommittee. We shall see....
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The drug war is a miserable failure. Didn't we learn a thing from prohibition? All it has done is corrupt police departments erode our liberties and create an underground criminal enterprise that is eating our cities from the inside out.
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Default SB1200 $15.00 minimum wage in Va.

And here we go....$15.00 minimum wage bill in Va. We are not Washington state or California, but we have some trying. And a bill to repeal the right to work law.




THE ISSUE:SB1200 passed Senate Commerce and Labor Committee yesterday afternoon and will now be heard and voted on by the Senate this week. WHAT THIS BILL MEANS:
SB1200
increases the minimum wage in Virginia as follows:

$10/hour effective THIS July (2019)
$13/hour effective July 2020
$15/hour effective July 2021
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Old 01-15-2019, 01:30 PM
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That’s more scary than people smoking joints walking down the street
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Thing is, if you have a medical marijuana card, you are unable to own a weapon. No way in hell, I would get a medical license. I wonder what would happen if it becomes legal like alcohol? Will they then say you can own a weapon because it’s now legal, or mandatory (periodic) drug testing for anyone who owns a gun. Something to ponder
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Originally Posted by gfretwell View Post
The drug war is a miserable failure. Didn't we learn a thing from prohibition? All it has done is corrupt police departments erode our liberties and create an underground criminal enterprise that is eating our cities from the inside out.
The drug war is rich people with prescription drugs versus poor people with street drugs! Total waste. Totally not fair!
Every society has wanted to be altered since the beginning of time! Doing so responsibly is key but what is the difference morally between taking an anti-depressant because you "can't cope" versus smoking a joint because you want to "mellow out"? ($100 to big pharma!)In either case you are altered!

Bigger discussion as to why people want to be altered and whether its valid but people have been doing this since boredom was invented!
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Exactly,thank goodness Jeff Sessions is gone, hopefully things will move faster now.
Jeff Sessions was not the problem. Pete Sessions of Texas was the obstructionist.

"With Pete Sessions’ exit Congress is losing the man who the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws (NORML) described as a “leading marijuana prohibitionist.” According to NORML’s tally, Pete Sessions obstructed almost 40 marijuana-related bills from even receiving a hearing. Not unlike Jefferson Beauregard, Pete Sessions pushed blatant falsehoods, such as marijuana being highly addictive and today’s weed being “300 times more powerful” than cannabis seen in the 1970s.”

In early November I attended MJBizCon in Las Vegas along with over 27,000 others involved in the industry. The conference hall erupted in applause when Pete Sessions' defeat was mentioned.
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Originally Posted by Zardoz View Post
The drug war is rich people with prescription drugs versus poor people with street drugs! Total waste. Totally not fair!
Every society has wanted to be altered since the beginning of time! Doing so responsibly is key but what is the difference morally between taking an anti-depressant because you "can't cope" versus smoking a joint because you want to "mellow out"? ($100 to big pharma!)In either case you are altered!

Bigger discussion as to why people want to be altered and whether its valid but people have been doing this since boredom was invented!
I'm not sure when boredom was invented but humans have been using cannabis for thousands of years.
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Old 01-15-2019, 02:32 PM
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Massachusetts: 17.4 million dollars in retail marijuana sales and 3.48 million in tax revenue as of 1/6/2019 (Roughly 1.5 months of business) between less than half a dozen shops.

Updated PDF from the state:
Sales_01132019_S2S_v2.pdf
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Originally Posted by Finsinchessy View Post
......Its taboo, black market, criminal enterprise status elevates it to cool to get by with endeavor. .......l.
I believe that's extremely far from the mark. Kids have been smoking it since the 60's. This is not manufactured. It's not taboo. It's semi legal in 17 states. What they smoke is not rough cut roadside weed. IMO it's far less damaging than alcohol.It's a source of tax revenue. If it caused cancer hippies would have been kicking the bucket decades ago.

What I find ironic is that I stopped smoking 15 year s ago and NOW IT'S LEGAL?? LOL.
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Originally Posted by crazycarl7 View Post
Thing is, if you have a medical marijuana card, you are unable to own a weapon. No way in hell, I would get a medical license. I wonder what would happen if it becomes legal like alcohol? Will they then say you can own a weapon because it’s now legal, or mandatory (periodic) drug testing for anyone who owns a gun. Something to ponder
Federal laws will change. Adults who use cannabis legally will be able to own guns. I'd be much more concerned about mixing firearms and alcohol than mixing firearms and cannabis. Did you know that number of people who have died directly from cannabis use is exactly equal to the number of people who have been gored to death by unicorns?
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