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Cost for tractor 'dirt work" plus a little clearing in the South

Old 01-10-2019, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post


was thinking the same thing. Last time I checked Blanchard was the only one renting them, and they were well in excess of $1,000/day, and they was with credentials. Good friend runs a pair of pressurized cab Kubota SVL95ís with Fecon heads on them, and wonít even quote on time. Just quotes scope of the job all inclusive. He considers his cost all in to be a bit over $100/operating hour taking into account daily head maintenance. I honestly think that is cheap.
Those kubotas are nice machines but arenít really designed for a forestry head. Asv and cat 299d are the front runners on skid steer frame mulchers. Itís hard on them all

OP, is CLS college station?

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Paul in a call u today. Can't type on a tablet.

We can ride out and look at it.
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Old 01-10-2019, 07:54 AM
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North Florida: I paid $800 to cut and remove 27 pine trees, most 8"-16" diameter, including removing the stumps. I was responsible to burn the branches and stumps. I also had to backfill the stump holes. I paid $300 for them to return and haul off the largest 5 stumps that I could not drag and burn.

The initial cutting and removal was between 4-6 hours with an excavator, a haul truck with boom, and two people on the ground with chainsaws. The removal of 5 stumps was half an hour with the haul truck and boom.

I am currently paying $135 per load of fill dirt, because the source is very close to me. I filled the stump holes with one 16 cuyd load with dirt to spare. I have a very small compact tractor with a loader.
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Old 01-10-2019, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by rustyshakelford View Post
Those kubotas are nice machines but aren’t really designed for a forestry head. Asv and cat 299d are the front runners on skid steer frame mulchers. It’s hard on them all

OP, is CLS college station?

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299's are sure enough nice. Local CAT dealer is slow on turning service work, and parts are sky high. Quick service and parts availability was the primary consideration on those two. 3 good Kubota dealers within 20-30 minutes, and CAT's closest location is an hour away in the wrong direction from where he mostly works. He's actually a former Deere earth moving rep, and Bobcat before that. Added cab protection and some big aux. hydro coolers to the Kubota's as well.
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Old 01-10-2019, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by mikefloyd View Post
The best way is a dozer with a root rake. But most of what we clear doesn't need the roots removed; it just needs to be clear enough to maintain with a brushhog.. We also can do it with the excavator and a box blade but that's not as fast. That's how we did the MX tracks but we also needed to remove a lot of sand and replace with what passes for clay in central FL.

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Originally Posted by Paul Barnard View Post
What is the best way to find out if a wetlands determination has been made on a property?
Go to this map and look it up.

https://www.fws.gov/wetlands/Data/Mapper.html
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Originally Posted by MikeeBooshay View Post
Go to this map and look it up.

https://www.fws.gov/wetlands/Data/Mapper.html

Wow, great tool. If I am reading the layers right, the brighter green is designated wetlands. That matches up with my observations from walking the back and edges of the property.
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Old 01-10-2019, 08:23 AM
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yes you are correct.

Doesn't mean you cant do anything with it, but there are things you HAVE to do before you turn a shovel full of dirt, or risk the Army Corp of Engineers ire, and those guys don't play well with others.
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Old 01-10-2019, 08:32 AM
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I was on my way out the door and rushed that last post without doing justice to my question. I have 10 acres. It was clear cut 15 years ago. It is impenetrably thick toward the front. Meaning I can't flag what I want cut. I can show the operator on a satellite map what I want cut and I can plug it into a GPS. Can they navigate by GPS?The property is pie shaped. I want to clear a road in. Toward the front I want to clear an acre for a garden. In the middle I want to clear an acre for a house pad and at the back I want to clear an acre for a dove field/shooting range. Then I want to make a walking path around the entire perimeter. This satellite shot shows the acreage and you can kinda see the pie shape to it. If you switch to street view on Clear Lake road, you can see how thick the vegetation is.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Pe...!4d-89.1427895
There are guys in my area that have a GPS mounted in the mulching machine. I don't know how they obtain the maps or what format they use.

I've used Avenza maps (as some have suggested) in an Iphone to navigate through thick brush. Seemed to be accurate within 10 or 15 ft.
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Old 01-10-2019, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Barnard View Post
After you run a mulcher through an area, what is the best way to remove roots?
dozer/rootrake
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Originally Posted by Melville84 View Post
Once you do all this clearing you will need someone or something to maintain it and the bike track. It will come back in a couple years, especially those pines. Any way you could buy an older loader, if you have the time and mechanical aptitude and do as much of it as you can yourself. Push the pines aside then sprinkle some dirt on it, so they rot quicker. If you could get about a 60-75 hp rubber track skid steer, push 4" pines right over. You would be surprised how strong they are. Something like a Takeuchi 140 or Bobcat T-250 would work.
4" Pines are nothing, really. My 33hp tractor can mow those guys over with ease.

This was from this past Sunday...taking a few of the cherries down (was going to call buddy with dozer/rake, but decided to take a shot at a few). They were easier than I thought, but probably not doing the tractor any favors, but it was dad's idea We are making our dove field bigger. Hope to have a good 3-4 acres to plant this year and final size should be closer to 6-7, eventually.

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Originally Posted by MikeeBooshay View Post
yes you are correct.

Doesn't mean you cant do anything with it, but there are things you HAVE to do before you turn a shovel full of dirt, or risk the Army Corp of Engineers ire, and those guys don't play well with others.
Here it's the state EPA that regulates use of wetlands. FE606/FE606: Handbook of Florida Water Regulation: Activities in Wetlands
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Old 01-10-2019, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Barnard View Post
A question for you here. How do you navigate through 10-15 foot high tangled mess mixed with 4-5 inch pines that you can's see 10-15 feet into?
Typically someone marks the perimeter with flagging tape. You are sitting almost over the cutting head. 4-5in pine trees were not an issue.
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Old 01-10-2019, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by mikefloyd View Post
Just an FYI but you have to remove the roots from the track and you really don't want them anywhere they might run off.
Good points Mike..thanks
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Originally Posted by ono loco View Post
Good points Mike..thanks
I should send you a picture of what a root did to my son Brian's leg at Crum. Went in just above his boot and under the shin guard and ripped it right down to the bone all the way up to his knee. Fortunately no damage to tendons or major blood vessels; 150 stiches and it was all back together with no permanent damage except a scar that looks like a shark bite.
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Originally Posted by mikefloyd View Post
I should send you a picture of what a root did to my son Brian's leg at Crum. Went in just above his boot and under the shin guard and ripped it right down to the bone all the way up to his knee. Fortunately no damage to tendons or major blood vessels; 150 stiches and it was all back together with no permanent damage except a scar that looks like a shark bite.
The mental image is enough...no need for a pic. Damn!
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How do you plan to drain it? Cut drainage swells? Clay doesn't drain well at all. The clearing portion is easy. Keeping it dry enough to let horses or cows graze is another. They dont do well with even soggy ground. I have had to have tiles installed in what looked like flat land.
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