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Old 12-23-2018, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by polarred21 View Post
got Very nice collections of guitars posted here..keep 'em coming!

Many thanks for the good advice on American vs. MIM Vs. China. Here is my .02....

When I started this thing 4 years ago I really really wanted an American made Gibson Les Paul. I found out very quickly that the price point compared to the Chinese Epiphone and at my beginner level, that was not going to happen. I told myself if I EVER were to perform anywhere, I would treat myself to such a nice piece. This hobby is WAY LESS expensive than boating!!

I just my MIM telecaster back yesterday after a setup and new strings. This is a new guitar but must have been a demo and some frets needed leveling. I am totally good with this, knowing that a tech I trust has gone through and gave me the best advice and a good playing guitar.
So on that note the difference between a $500 tele and a $1500 tele, leaves me a mountain of $$ room for upgrades, correct? Just my.02.

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I wouldn't say a mountain of $. Don't go sinking $1,000 on upgrades into it. If it stays in tune and you like the sound of the pickups, then there's really no need to spend any $ on it. Just enjoy playing it. And if it doesn't stay in tune well, get a little nut work. If you want a different tone out of it, there are tons of pickup options out there.

Locking tuners are nice. I like them because they really speed up the time to do a string change. I can change and stretch the strings on my guitars with locking tuners in 15 minutes.
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Old 12-23-2018, 09:19 AM
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The story of Leo Fender is not so much of genius but frugality and simplicity. Guitars born from the simplest of construction techniques, making it approachable for a beginner builder. Leo was a classic tinkerer. Pickups made from simple pole magnets and rubberized compressed fiberboard used to make drum cases for instance. Sometimes the magic is in the simplicity. Early blues players had the same approach. Build what you can't afford with what you have. Sometimes it was just fence wire and barn boards in the simplest classic diddly bow. Lots of builders out there using the stick and a box method and finding a connection to their instruments and playing that you won't get from a store bought guitar.

In its basic form there is not much to it.



Even with simple tools much is possible.



There is not much to a simple single coil pickup. A little forbon, a couple magnets and some wire.



The experimentation with number of turns, wire gauge, scatter winding magnet types all creates different results.



I am fortunate to live near an exotic lumber yard. The manager is a bass player and he is tolerant of me going through the racks thumping and tapping on wood so I can find the right resonant boards I want.
In a 1000 mass produced guitars, there will be a handful that has that kind of magic. The sum of all its parts. I would never buy a guitar without picking it up and letting it speak to me.

I hand selected the ash and sitka spuce to build this guitar out of hundreds of boards. It is the same feeling you get with a guitar you pick up in the store that just sings to you even before you plug it in.




Tone is where you find it. I've built some pretty eclectic stuff out of odd materials. Like this one made out of a Ford truck hub cap. With a slide is rings like a dobro.



It all started when my wife threatened to divorce me if I bought another guitar. Surprised I'm still married.
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Old 12-23-2018, 10:50 AM
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Pretty awesome skills you express here Don. Thanks for sharing. I used to have that much patience and try to tell my self I still do. I would to love to get into guitar building, maybe when I retire.

As for my first mentioned Epiphone that I purchased almost 4 years ago, here is the pic from the CL ad, got all of this from a high school skid for $400, I was pretty stoked, still am.


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Old 12-23-2018, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Brad1 View Post
USA made production Fenders are $1,000 to $1,500, not $2,500 to 3,000. The Fender guitars I'm referring to are from the American Standard line. They were about $1,000 at the time. I believe they've since changed the name of that line to American Professional, and raised the price.

They did the fret level for me free of charge as part of the setup. The frets were perfect after that. Well, until I wore them flat down to the fretboard after about 4 yrs of playing. Lol. I bought two of them back then and they both needed the same fret treatment.

I would never pay $2,500 to $3,000 for a modern Fender when I can buy a Suhr or an Anderson for that price. Suhr frets are perfect (they use a plek machine) and stay perfect since they're stainless, not nickle.
REALLY ? My Fender "Select" made in USA pictured / Custom Shop comparable the MSRP / LIST was $3499 when on sale it was $2795-$2495 -if you could find one, limited edition & were hard to get. They sell for aproxx $2000 USED !

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Old 12-23-2018, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by BackEastDon View Post
I am fortunate to live near an exotic lumber yard. The manager is a bass player and he is tolerant of me going through the racks thumping and tapping on wood so I can find the right resonant boards I want.
In a 1000 mass produced guitars, there will be a handful that has that kind of magic. The sum of all its parts. I would never buy a guitar without picking it up and letting it speak to me. I hand selected the ash and sitka spuce to build this guitar out of hundreds of boards. It is the same feeling you get with a guitar you pick up in the store that just sings to you even before you plug it in.
Don, please share some of your guitar builds on the woodworking thread. Lot of us follow that thread, very nice stuff posted there and yours should be included.

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Old 12-23-2018, 11:47 AM
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Now that I can afford my dream guitar I realize I can never make it sound the way I want it to. So I'm leaving my old Ibanez Iceman up on the wall alongside my Alvarez acoustic.
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Old 12-23-2018, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Mata Peje View Post
REALLY ? My Fender "Select" made in USA pictured / Custom Shop comparable the MSRP / LIST was $3499 when on sale it was $2795-$2495 -if you could find one, limited edition & were hard to get. They sell for aproxx $2000 USED !

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Click here to "LEARN" more >>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Fender-Select-Carved-Maple-Top-Telecaster-Amber-553/322527991476?hash=item4b182a96b4:g:0YAAAOSwv0tVcvl b:rk:13:pf:0

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The term "production" is used to refer to the mass produced model lines like the one I specifically mentioned in my post. Ie. American standard.

Fender custom shop is a whole different ball game. And yes, I'm well aware of custom shop prices.

Fender does the same thing as PRS, Gibson, and I'm sure other brands do as well. They have their mass produced ie "production" guitars, then they have their premium line which in the case of Fender and Gibson, they're referred to as Custom Shop.

I'm sure your custom shop tele is a dream to play and without a doubt it certainly is a beautiful guitar (I admire your taste btw), but the point I was trying to make earlier in this thread is that I don't see a big difference between the MIM Fender guitars and the other mass produced USA lines such as the American standard, Anerican special, or any other non-Custom shop Fenders.
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Old 12-25-2018, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by polarred21 View Post
Pretty awesome skills you express here Don. Thanks for sharing. I used to have that much patience and try to tell my self I still do. I would to love to get into guitar building, maybe when I retire.

As for my first mentioned Epiphone that I purchased almost 4 years ago, here is the pic from the CL ad, got all of this from a high school skid for $400, I was pretty stoked, still am.


Beautiful. The sunburst is the most appealing color combo for Les Pauls IMO. When I first set my mind to buy a Gibson Les Paul, there was no doubt that it would be nothing other than a sunburst. I love that guitar and it's amazing how heavy that mahogany is. Small price to pay, though (not the guitar itself lool!) to get that classic, Les Paul sound.
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I got an American Special Tele today for Christmas. Have or had in the past year, MIM Tele, Squier Classic Vibe Tele, Harley Benton TE-52 Tele and an American Standard Tele. Very little difference between any of them in my opinion. The Classic Vibe and HB TE-52 can go head to head with MIA Tele's costing 3x what these things run. I put Tone Rider TRT2's in the HB and it sounds awesome. The Americans do feel and play a little smoother in my mind. Very subjective. Might be a mental thing but they just feel better, buzz less, sound cleaner and the fret work is better. I really like the American Special since I'm a big fan of the Texas Special pickups.

As nice as some of these Fenders are, I got a new Ibanez Prestige last week and the fret work is the best I've experienced to date. It plays ridiculously smooth and the birdseye maple fretboard is perfection.

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Was trying to learn a new Chris Stapleton song a few weeks back on a Gibson Les Paul and after about an hour, the skin was missing off of one of my left fingers. Damn sharp frets on that thing. Love the guitar though and will get a fret job done.
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Just sold this a couple months ago. It is a 1980 Gibson Howard Roberts Fusion. Being a huge Rush fan, I wanted one since I first started playing in 1983. Maybe I'll get another one in the future.
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When I bought the Strat this year it was missing one screw in the pickguard, not only was the screw missing but the hole for it had never been drilled. went back and forth for more then a few weeks about what to do,

finally got a little advice from a tech as to drill size and depth and fixed it myself. love the guitar, no way I would take it back for such a minor thing being wrong.

so this Christmas my girlfriend decided to go all out and got me a gibson Les Paul. I was messing with it in the shop and she loved the sound of it. Never would have expected such an expensive gift but it sure is nice.

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Here she is. non weight relieved so it weighs a ton LOL
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Awesome gold top! Single coil?
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thanks

yep P90 singles. Apparently 2018 is the last year for singles in the Les Paul.

I used to not love the gold top but over the years it has really become my favorite color of LP
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Any Reverend fans? Bought this Rocco in '05 and it's the only electric I still have. Plugs into a garage sale find, completely original (except for the '68 Altec 425-8H speaker) '68 Fender Princeton. Chime for days!




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Nice amp find! Santa just brought me a new '68 reissue Fender Princeton Reverb. It is scary how similar they look to those made 50 years ago.
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Nice amp find! Santa just brought me a new '68 reissue Fender Princeton Reverb. It is scary how similar they look to those made 50 years ago.
Those '68 re-issue series amps are very nice amps. I had both the Vibrolux and the Deluxe reverb from that lineup. The cleans cannot be beat and neither could the reverb or the vibrato. Both of which I miss on my new line up. They seemed very well made too. If you're able to get all the tones out of them that you're after, you cannot go wrong with those. I would say they're great amps for the money, but they're great amps period.
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In a fit of what has become quite the addiction, I awoke today to an email from Musicians Friend offering 10% off all Fender products. Well, 3 days after getting the American Special Tele, I now also have an American Professional Tele on the way. 3 new guitars in the past 2 weeks. Nice!

Sold my Harley Benton Tele on Thursday so I had a free space on the wall.
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Leo Fender never learned to how to play a guitar.
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