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Old 12-05-2018, 02:05 PM
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I have been interested in purchasing a yacht for a while now. I came across PAE and the Nordhavn brand in my search and I was really interested… until I did a little more digging and that is what brings me here today. I found this Ripoff Report on PAE filed by a former client who seems to have been completely mistreated by PAE.

According to the report, PAE ends up using money you have paid to fund other projects – meaning they won’t have sufficient funds to complete all their projects leaving your vessel unfinished. Even after going through all of this and paying more money to PAE to finish the vessel, it was delivered with many repairs needed. Can you believe that – on a brand-new build?

The guy spent a cool $16million on this N120, a sizable undertaking for any yacht vendor, and was delivered a vessel with very shoddy craftsmanship. Pictures showed cloudy, contaminated finishing on the wood, even split boards… definitely not what you should get after shelling out that much money!

Has anyone else experienced this from either PAE or other companies? This Ripoff report was shocking to me, I would love to get more info.
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Nice first post. You seriously expect us anyone to believe that you didn't have an agenda in posting this?

BTW - TheHullTruth really isn't big with the trawler crowd and this isn't news to those of us that are in the trawler community or aware of what's going on. You should try posting this on YachtForums and then time how long it lasts...
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Fake news . Just doesn’t work here
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My Nordhavn EYF75 was a perfect boat until it decide to commit suicide at the dock in Cabo.

Meh... feces occurs.

https://www.soundingsonline.com/news...ht-in-its-slip
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The real question is, Do all yacht builders do this? Is it standard operating procedure to use cash from new customers to complete boats for existing customers? I would expect the cash from each buyer would fund his boat build from start to finish. The profits would run the company.

They have sold a lot of Nordhaven's in Dana Point. The boats are everywhere, taking up end tie space all over the harbor.
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Originally Posted by Dulcecita Lures View Post
My Nordhavn EYF75 was a perfect boat until it decide to commit suicide at the dock in Cabo.

Meh... feces occurs.

https://www.soundingsonline.com/news...ht-in-its-slip
Was that really yours, or are you just tugging at us?

I've always had an eye for the 75 EYF and remember reading about that incident.
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Originally Posted by Dulcecita Lures View Post
My Nordhavn EYF75 was a perfect boat until it decide to commit suicide at the dock in Cabo.

Meh... feces occurs.

https://www.soundingsonline.com/news...ht-in-its-slip
In this case, I agree the installation was shoddy. The builder was correct in the bulkhead should have been closed. Once they found that PVC connection leaking, they should have closed the seacock at the end of every day but who wants to go into a hot bilge in cabo when there's beer to drink.
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not dulcy's boat lol
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I think you should look into the report for confirmation from more than just one source.
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Tuggin' y'all. Seriously, if I had that kinda ching, do you think I'd be playin' wid youse knuckleheads and not out banging super models and chit while sipping little umbrella cocktail drinks with the Sultan of Djibouti and chit?

I mean, I love all y'all... but a man does have his priorities!
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Thanks for the heads up OP, I’m cancelling my order first thing in the AM.
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I gave my left nut for that billion and I’m not wasting it.
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When it comes to a bad reputation as a yacht builder the line in front of PAE would be miles long.
They are a class act that has built yachts for hundreds of very happy and committed customers.
Rip Off report is just an Internet Extortion scam and totally baseless.
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Nordhaven/PAE has been around a long time, and have had boats go all around the world, some more than twice.
Every boats deposit and progress payment goes to someone else's boat, unless it's specifically listed to buy certain equipment, say engines.
Many boat builders go under, don't think PAE will be one of them.
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Same here, been seeing a lot of Ripoff reports and negative responses about PAE over the past few months. We all know its a small community and anything can be said.....but I find the responses from PAE not so great. Find it odd the company did not finish the work on this vessel, particularly for a customer who has invested millions of dollars in 4 Nordhavns in the past. Don't care who is right or wrong on this one.....as someone who is in business......from a pure business standpoint, sales, don't think the company handled this right at all.
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Originally Posted by Blazer7420 View Post
Nordhaven/PAE has been around a long time, and have had boats go all around the world, some more than twice.
Every boats deposit and progress payment goes to someone else's boat, unless it's specifically listed to buy certain equipment, say engines.
Many boat builders go under, don't think PAE will be one of them.
Who's interested in "facts" and "logic" and crazy things like that - we should stick to just repeating things and crucifying vendors!
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Originally Posted by flanaganb821 View Post
I have been interested in purchasing a yacht for a while now. I came across PAE and the Nordhavn brand in my search and I was really interested… until I did a little more digging and that is what brings me here today. I found this Ripoff Report on PAE filed by a former client who seems to have been completely mistreated by PAE.

According to the report, PAE ends up using money you have paid to fund other projects – meaning they won’t have sufficient funds to complete all their projects leaving your vessel unfinished. Even after going through all of this and paying more money to PAE to finish the vessel, it was delivered with many repairs needed. Can you believe that – on a brand-new build?

The guy spent a cool $16million on this N120, a sizable undertaking for any yacht vendor, and was delivered a vessel with very shoddy craftsmanship. Pictures showed cloudy, contaminated finishing on the wood, even split boards… definitely not what you should get after shelling out that much money!

Has anyone else experienced this from either PAE or other companies? This Ripoff report was shocking to me, I would love to get more info.
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Same here, been seeing a lot of Ripoff reports and negative responses about PAE over the past few months. We all know its a small community and anything can be said.....but I find the responses from PAE not so great. Find it odd the company did not finish the work on this vessel, particularly for a customer who has invested millions of dollars in 4 Nordhavns in the past. Don't care who is right or wrong on this one.....as someone who is in business......from a pure business standpoint, sales, don't think the company handled this right at all.

Pretty amazing in that barely a week's time (ripoff report was posted Nov 26) you two people just stumbled on a "ripoff report" and ended up here as 1 post wonders.

Almost unbelievable.
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Originally Posted by rbhankins001 View Post
Pretty amazing in that barely a week's time (ripoff report was posted Nov 26) you two people just stumbled on a "ripoff report" and ended up here as 1 post wonders.

Almost unbelievable.
A Forkin THT miracle no less.
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The dude went to the trouble of creating a website for how badly they treated him and poor craftsmanship. They even played games with handling the taxes/duties upon arrival in Canada... seems fishy. Nordhavn Aurora Issues Website
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I love the 75, but I always heard it was a poor design

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