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Old 12-06-2018, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by pmichael View Post
I personally do not think the drone rules are unreasonable, now. Also, not sure your aware, but before the current set of regulations were in place. The regulations in place while they were developing the current regulations required any commercial drone pilots to be licensed pilots for manned aircraft. Basically before the current regs, you were not allowed to fly a drone commercially without a pilots license. The current regs have become more relaxed since the implementation of drone regulations. So, in essence the FAA has actually relaxed the rules to allow more people to operate, which is what your advocating for now. Maybe they will relax them more, but I doubt it.

You and your buddy feel free to break the law, your not pushing the boundaries, your breaking the law, period. If you get caught I will have no sympathy for you, especially since you have become somewhat educated on the subject. Good luck pushing the boundaries pal.
The FAA definition of "commercial" is scheduled passenger carriers, non-part 135.
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Old 12-06-2018, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by billinstuart View Post
The FAA definition of "commercial" is scheduled passenger carriers, non-part 135.
Part 107 has defined commercial/business use of a drone.
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Old 12-06-2018, 12:34 PM
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Old 12-06-2018, 12:39 PM
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Old 12-06-2018, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
We don't register guns in free states. Neither SC or NC have gun registration.
Thats because gun ownership is a right. Flying a drone or driving a car are not rights.
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Old 12-06-2018, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post


i agree fully with some regulation. Just not licensure and fees. Publish a digital map, uploadable to all devices, and digitally control it. No reason why they can’t essily integrate the flight rules into the devices, and just cut everybody loose to do their thing. At that point the manufacturers have to go through some minor software integration, but it cuts out all the headaches for the user wanting to better their working environment.
Ok, wait a second - you have just changed one set of licensing and fees for another - you have taken the burden from the pilot of the aircraft to the manufacturer. You are now requiring all legally purchasable aircraft to have (presumably) GPS, with fencing capability. The little drone I have doesn't have fencing, although it does have basic GPS. Given that the basic GPS in my drone is for one purpose only (return to launch point), I very much doubt fencing would be easily integrated. So, in other words, in order to have a "license" to sell the drone you manufacture, it has to be manufactured with fencing capability. And you are forcing all the manufacturers to support your government approved maps. And then presumably go through some kind of certification process before it can ever be put on the shelves. That costs more to make, so it costs the pilot more to buy. There goes the fee you are doing away with. Then the pilot is still responsible for keeping the maps current and appropriate for whatever locale they are flying in.

Personally, I'd rather that I, as the pilot, be required to know (and perhaps prove that I know) the flight rules and restrictions myself and have my little drone be bone-ass dumb.

Regarding the whole personal vs commercial debate, commercial almost always had more stringent requirements, and that is generally supposed to protect the customer (whether it does or doesn't is perhaps a different conversation). As a homeowner, I can do work on my own residence without a contractors license. I'm still supposed to pull permits and get inspections, but I don't need a license to do the work. But if I was working commercially, I'd need a license. Likewise, commercial drivers and commercial pilots face additional licensing requirements over private.
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Old 12-06-2018, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by pmichael View Post
Part 107 has defined commercial/business use of a drone.
Does it include IQ requirements for the pilots??
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Originally Posted by billinstuart View Post
Does it include IQ requirements for the pilots??
All you need to know https://www.faa.gov/uas/
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Old 12-06-2018, 05:06 PM
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My phantom 4 will not even fly if I'm to close to a airport. And it will not fly by the Delaware memorial bridge, not will it lift off by Salem nuclear plant. Not sure how others work. It even tells me if I'm close to a grass runway used in Woodstown NJ for crop dusters to re fill. But it will let me fly there
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Old 12-06-2018, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by RJTaylor View Post
Drone pilot

I think this has gone to some turds head, as if he is flying fighter jets..
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Old 12-06-2018, 06:44 PM
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Take a couple of seconds to ask yourself whether the following is more likely to apply to commercial or hobby drone operators:

1) Daily (or regular) useage
2) Continuous hours of flight throughout the day
3) Flying in multiple, unfamiliar, geographic locations regularly
4) Likelihood of flying over areas with structures or people
5) Likelihood of needing to fly close to restricted areas
6) Need to use more advanced equipment (i.e. larger, heavier, more capable, and more damaging if something goes wrong)

Of course there are always exceptions, as with everything.

The gov regulates in many, many, many ways based on risk. Rather than restrict an exponentially growing industry by overregulating, they took a risk based approach and required the highest risk users to certify that they are knowledgeable of existing aviation laws/regs/rules. To me it's kind of a no brainer.

Edit: .Also, I think many here are under the impression that the cheap drones they see in hobby stores for a couple hundred bucks (kids toys) epitomize whats available. The drone industry is pretty big, and there are a huge number of hobbyists and commercial operators alike who build their own rigs from parts. Some are capable of very fast flight and can easily reach thousands of feet. Even ones that are available at stores are pretty capable when not restricted by software and geofencing.
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Old 12-07-2018, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Delduck View Post
My phantom 4 will not even fly if I'm to close to a airport. And it will not fly by the Delaware memorial bridge, not will it lift off by Salem nuclear plant. Not sure how others work. It even tells me if I'm close to a grass runway used in Woodstown NJ for crop dusters to re fill. But it will let me fly there
here is the map for DJI geo fencing

https://www.dji.com/flysafe/geo-map
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Old 12-07-2018, 08:48 AM
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here is the map for DJI geo fencing
Outsourcing keeping American nuclear plants safe to a Chinese drone company :-D
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Just bought a small drone for my oldest daughter for Christmas, I/we have zero intention of registering it with any agency. She'll take it to a local park and fly it where it won't be interacting with anyone or anything. No need for any government interference.
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Just bought a small drone for my oldest daughter for Christmas, I/we have zero intention of registering it with any agency. She'll take it to a local park and fly it where it won't be interacting with anyone or anything. No need for any government interference.
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I'm still waiting for the punchline?

You guys and your rules. Good lord.
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Old 12-17-2018, 05:30 PM
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Neat zone map thanks for the link
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Old 12-18-2018, 07:48 AM
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Interesting map... apparently the airspace close to a prison is restricted... and there are a lot of prisons!
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Interesting map... apparently the airspace close to a prison is restricted... and there are a lot of prisons!
And a lot of airport approaches. Interesting.
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Old 12-20-2018, 08:39 AM
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And a lot of airport approaches. Interesting.
You never know how many. I had my Student Pilot License for awhile but was more aware of airports as a roadway engineer than a pilot. Every time you build a road you have to check how close you are to an airport. If you are within x - miles you have to file permits with the FAA for clearances and if you are in the pattern it gets even more complicated.
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