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Default Recommend an automotive paint gun

In the process of painting some body work I did on my truck. I can paint pretty well, but I'm tired of using spray cans. I'm not a pro by any means, but I don't like garbage tools. So I'm not a Snap on caliber guy, but definately not Harbor Freight. Think Craftsman, back when Craftsman were decent.

I'm looking for a spray gun that I can use for automotive work. Can anyone recommend a good automotive spray gun for a guy like me? I have a good compressor. Probably need a water separator though. At least Ithik I would.

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Sata top feed. You will need a water sepeartor at the compressor. Get a D5 filter to screw on right at the gun too.
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Devilbiss Starting Line HVLP
Picked up a "kit" with primer gun, finish gun and touch-up gun for about $200 a few years back.

They run about $250 now and under $200 without the small touch-up gun.
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Too bad you ruled out Harbor Freight,they have a great HVLP gun (capable of much more than the average user) for under $100.

https://www.harborfreight.com/20-oz-...gun-68843.html

Read the reviews.By the way,most every brand of gun is manufactured "over there".
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Should've also asked, are there any specifications I should look for?
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The Harbor Freight purple HVLP gun is actually widely regarded by pros as being more than acceptable. Many higher-end hobbyists and even pro painters use it with excellent results.
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Porter cable used to sell the same gun as harbor freight for $100, they called it the PSH1; that was nice because porter cable offered different needle/nozzle/aircap packages up to 2.2mm so it could handle thicker paints. I don't know of any sources for the different tips anymore, I think it comes standard with a 1.3 or 1.5 which is probably what you want for most automotive paints.
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We finish automotive parts using the HF guns in a production environment. Work great as long as you have good, well regulated, clean air.
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Well regulated and dry air is key for any spray gun.
Also, do not use an air hose that has had any tool oil used through it.
I have an auto-oiler installed in-line after my separator/regulator for air tools.

I have a tee in line before the oiler which goes to a separate desiccant filter/drier and additional regulator and a hose that's just for spraying.
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3M Accuspray
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Originally Posted by muskamoot View Post
Too bad you ruled out Harbor Freight,they have a great HVLP gun (capable of much more than the average user) for under $100.

https://www.harborfreight.com/20-oz-...gun-68843.html

Read the reviews.By the way,most every brand of gun is manufactured "over there".
I painted a truck last year with the harbor freight. It did well, I wouldnt hesitate to recommend it. Ive painted 3 vehicles fully in my time and done a number of touchups using nice guns (mainly devilbiss). The harbor freight works as well as the higher priced ones and the plus side of it is you throw it away when you are done with this job and get a new one if you have a new job in a few years.
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I use the finish line for color and the plus for clear. The plus will lay down clear as good as if not better than guns costing twice as much.

DeVilbiss

Use harbor freight chinese garbage for primer guns....




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Originally Posted by MercuryMan200 View Post
I use the finish line for color and the plus for clear. The plus will lay down clear as good as if not better than guns costing twice as much.

DeVilbiss

Use harbor freight chinese garbage for primer guns....




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I take it DeVilbis still makes a good gun. I've never owned a paint gun, but I remember DeVilbis as being one of the better brands back in the day. At least that was my impression.

I'm not sure I want to spend as much as the what the two guns (combined) would run. Do you think I could get by using just one gun for base and clear coats?

Might just do as you said and consider the Harbor Frieght gun as a primer gun.

Thanks !!!
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If you get just one I would get the plus. It really is a great gun for the money.
There's nothing wrong with using 1 gun for color and clear. You can do a single stage if you want to save money.
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Not a spray gun, but I picked up one of these today: https://www.homedepot.com/p/DEWALT-12-Amp-7-in-9-in-Variable-Speed-Polisher-with-Soft-Start-DWP849X/203164128

Really like it. With a wool pad and McGuire's 105, it made my clear coat shine like a mirror.
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Originally Posted by MercuryMan200 View Post
If you get just one I would get the plus. It really is a great gun for the money.
There's nothing wrong with using 1 gun for color and clear. You can do a single stage if you want to save money.
Single Stage, a good subject for this thread.

OP, if your repainting the entire vehicle & just want a nice finish then Single stage is the ticket.
Different product manufacturers recommend different parameters for applications of their particular products.

As a rule of thumb 99% of the time I use a 1.3-1.4 tip on my HVLP guns unless it was a jamb gun.
If the SS paint(s) being sprayed are a solid color them no clear coat will be needed.
If the base color has metallics, pearls or candies in them then a few top layers of clear coat will be needed.
You Can Not wet sand or compound such paint with MPC's or the surface(s) will become blemished.

Base coats and single stage paints require different types of guns to be properly sprayed.

Just make sure to read and adhere to the manufacturers recommendations of the product.
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Single Stage, a good subject for this thread.

OP, if your repainting the entire vehicle & just want a nice finish then Single stage is the ticket.
Different product manufacturers recommend different parameters for applications of their particular products.

As a rule of thumb 99% of the time I use a 1.3-1.4 tip on my HVLP guns unless it was a jamb gun.
If the SS paint(s) being sprayed are a solid color them no clear coat will be needed.
If the base color has metallics, pearls or candies in them then a few top layers of clear coat will be needed.
You Can Not wet sand or compound such paint with MPC's or the surface(s) will become blemished.

Base coats and single stage paints require different types of guns to be properly sprayed.

Just make sure to read and adhere to the manufacturers recommendations of the product.
Thank you. I wasn't even aware that single stage style of paint was an option. I thought everything these days was base coat, clear coat. From an automotive painting perspective, I expect to using base coat, clear coat. Doubt I'll use single stage for my auto body repair needs.

Thanks again for the insight.
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I'm a little surprised no one has mentioned Binks yet, one of the oldest domestic spray gun manufacturers. I may be a dinosaur but I have a couple of their model 95SS guns I've used for decades and couldn't count the pallets of product I've run through them. With tip, cap and needle sets from the "63" to the "68" series I can shoot anything from fairing mud to topcoat and can use small siphon cups of large 5 or 10 gallon
pressure pots for big jobs.
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Originally Posted by bills106 View Post
I'm a little surprised no one has mentioned Binks yet, one of the oldest domestic spray gun manufacturers. I may be a dinosaur but I have a couple of their model 95SS guns I've used for decades and couldn't count the pallets of product I've run through them. With tip, cap and needle sets from the "63" to the "68" series I can shoot anything from fairing mud to topcoat and can use small siphon cups of large 5 or 10 gallon
pressure pots for big jobs.
I have 4 of them in the cabinet that I haven't used since I switched over to the Sata 5000. The 7 was a good gun but if you're spraying Imron, Awlgrip, etc the top feed HVLP will use less paint and is easier to clean too. That means more money in your pocket. I wouldn't trust a HF piece of junk on any spray project. A disposable filter water separator at the gun as well as a regulator at the gun too. One spurt of moisture and there goes your finish. It's not only the gun.
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Bill,
As with everything, as times passes old technology becomes obsolete.
The Binks #7 are & were grate guns in their time...,,,,,,if you needed a water hose or primer gun to shoot heavy fill primers.

Squid summed it up, it's all about keeping the cost of production down which requires the use of a HVLP gun to do so.
Not only do HVLP guns reduce the amount of materials used, it also uses way less air which in return reduces wear & tear on compressors and everything in between.

Unless I'm mistaken isn't there an OASH regulation mandating the use of HVLP spray equipment when spraying paints of this type & such?

I've been out of it for too many years you know what gun technology/designs they have available these days so that's where you're gun type & review research needs to start.

Search parameters should been narrowed down to the following, based on your BC/CC application:

1) Type & brand of specific BC/CC application per manufacturer.
2) Specifications for guns, tips, needles, etc. recommended for use of product per manufacturer.

Once you have this info then the search review for guns starts.

After you figure out which brand & type of paints are to be used along w/ which gun & tips/caps/etc. will be appropriate for your product application, then you can start searching gun reviews.

Just remember, Everybody that manufactures and sells products claim to have the best on the market for some reason or another.

Due Diligence!

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