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Old 11-14-2018, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by GR1FFIN View Post
Sorry I don't feel the same way-- this is not "great to see big companies show some compassion and charity". To me it is just a publicity stunt by Toyota to get free advertising and it has worked, there is nothing altruistic here. It would have made more sense if his insurance co did this instead.
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Old 11-14-2018, 04:38 PM
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I hope the owner continues with an insurance claim just to see what they say. I pity the company if they decline it.
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Old 11-14-2018, 04:46 PM
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Wow! Glad the gas tank didn't go!
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Old 11-14-2018, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SeaPro48 View Post
Wow! Glad the gas tank didn't go!
Seeing the melted parts, I was surprised that fluid lines, gas and others.., did not melt or catch fire.
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Old 11-14-2018, 04:54 PM
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What a stand up guy. Glad Toyota did something good for him. Makes me feel better for just buying a Tunda.
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Old 11-15-2018, 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by DNinja View Post
Seeing the melted parts, I was surprised that fluid lines, gas and others.., did not melt or catch fire.
i think it was heat radiating to the side of the vehicle, i doubt he actually drove it through any serious flames. just extremely close to some really hot ones!
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Old 11-15-2018, 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by GR1FFIN View Post
Sorry I don't feel the same way-- this is not "great to see big companies show some compassion and charity". To me it is just a publicity stunt by Toyota to get free advertising and it has worked, there is nothing altruistic here. It would have made more sense if his insurance co did this instead.
A company steps up and does a good thing and you look at it with total cynicism? You must me fun to hang around with.
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Old 11-15-2018, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Rolandt03 View Post
i think it was heat radiating to the side of the vehicle, i doubt he actually drove it through any serious flames. just extremely close to some really hot ones!
I think the scorching on the body indicates flames were touching. Is it possible just heat could do that?
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Old 11-15-2018, 07:56 AM
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Why does he need a new truck, it's still running! joking. I doubt very little is damaged behind the panels. The plastic melted, but the metal and plastic protected everything else (including people) from the radiant heat. Good thing he wasn't in a Tesla!
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Old 11-15-2018, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Locke N Load View Post
I think the scorching on the body indicates flames were touching. Is it possible just heat could do that?
have you ever stood next to a large brush pile that is burning? when we burn ours every year ( literally a pile the size of a smaller house ) you cant get with in 50ft of it with out feeling like your skin is going to spontaneously com-bust!

so yes just being very near a hot fire can do that with out actually touching the flames
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Old 11-15-2018, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Rolandt03 View Post
have you ever stood next to a large brush pile that is burning? when we burn ours every year ( literally a pile the size of a smaller house ) you cant get with in 50ft of it with out feeling like your skin is going to spontaneously com-bust!

so yes just being very near a hot fire can do that with out actually touching the flames
So like toasting a marshmallow? Auto paint can toast? Plastic melting I get, just not the paint scorching. Irrelevant to the story I guess.
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Old 11-15-2018, 09:33 AM
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yes like toasting a marshmallow. when you roast one, you can get it brown and toasty with never touching a flame. enough heat with out flames, will absolutely cause the toasting!
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Old 11-15-2018, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Beuford T. Justice View Post
Insurance companies simply don't work that way, as the owner willingly and intentionally put his truck in harms way.
Great for Toyota USA to step up to help him out.
So when a person drives through standing water and they end up flooding their cars, they are not covered?
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Old 11-15-2018, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Rolandt03 View Post
have you ever stood next to a large brush pile that is burning? when we burn ours every year ( literally a pile the size of a smaller house ) you cant get with in 50ft of it with out feeling like your skin is going to spontaneously com-bust!

so yes just being very near a hot fire can do that with out actually touching the flames
I go to a party where they stack 200 to 300 Christmas tress and light them up. The heat is so intense its hard to describe. When I watch these people running through these fires it just amazes me.
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Old 11-15-2018, 10:22 AM
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Pretty cool all around. First, great on the truck owner for helping others at the expense of his own truck.

Second, good on Toyota for offering to replace his truck. Yes, I'm sure they saw that there could be a benefit in the form of goodwill and good press in getting him a new truck. But, at the same time, they didn't have to do that, either.
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Old 11-15-2018, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by fishingfun View Post
I go to a party where they stack 200 to 300 Christmas tress and light them up. The heat is so intense its hard to describe. When I watch these people running through these fires it just amazes me.
damn! bet you cant get with in 150 yards of that fire!
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Old 11-15-2018, 10:44 AM
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Good thing he wasn't driving a dodge, ford, or chevy! Toyota Trucks FTW
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Old 11-15-2018, 10:54 AM
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An interesting insurance question.
What people are leaving out is their has to be damages, and there cannot be betterment. If the truck claim was filed for the fire damage it is a non issue - its covered. Fire damage is a simple comp loss. The fact that he knowingly drove it into a fire is not really an issue - people intentionally do a lot of things that don't turn out wrong.
Where it gets interesting is damages. The purpose of insurance is to return you to pre-loss condition. But pre-loss condition does not mean betterment. I.E. your position is not better for having the loss. In this case the truck is likely a constructive total loss, but because of a goodwill gesture by Toyota, he has effectively suffered no loss. Soooo, you could actually evaluate the situation both ways . . . if you consider the incident one event (damage / claim / Toyota replacement) or two events (damage / claim) & (goodwill replacement).

It's weird enough that I would have covered it just to simplify the deal. The argument would cost more than the CTL on the truck.
On the other hand, were I the guy, I think I would accept the new truck from Toyota, be thankful for the truck, be thankful that I survived and saved some people, and leave it that. Leave the insurance company out of it. But I doubt that would be a popular opinion.
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Old 11-15-2018, 05:57 PM
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I am sure toyota wants the truck also. It would be very beneficial to study it. To toyota this could ve invaluable.
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Old 11-16-2018, 05:09 AM
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Two potential issues here . . . First, is there a loan on the truck? If so, they need to be paid off and insurance may not cover the full loan amount remaining and owner, regardless of the VERY brave and commendable actions they took, will be on the hook for the difference. Second, if Toyota GIVES him a new truck the IRS and State will want their cut of TAX!

I hope the guy gets made whole but nothing will take away from the good he did!!

Bravo!
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