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Old 11-08-2018, 08:57 PM
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Currently a consulting manager for a $22B tech company running an org of 50~ people at 37. I went into management and left tech because I knew getting older and being a tech guy is a difficult gig to land and considering most tech work requires some nights and weekends I figured at 50 I would not want to do that anyways so I made the leap.

Im not sure if this is a full blown carrier path for someone to maintain in their 50s so I was thinking of moving into sales. I figure in sales if you are successful and bring home the bacon they donít care how old you are.

So im wondering two things:
1. Am I correct about sales? I know I can do it and perform well. Hell im mostly sales now just without the commission comp plan
2. For you older guys in the workforce what would you have done at a younger age to make ageing in the workforce easier for yourself and protect your livelihood in the workforce?
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Old 11-08-2018, 09:24 PM
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I would have switched to a job with the VA, federal retirement, healthcare and better workload. I thought about it at 50 and 55 but didn't I want the hour to hour and a half commute. 4 years left, I'm pretty much stuck, although I at the top of the pay scale and get OT anytime I want, so money wise I can't complain.
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Old 11-08-2018, 09:34 PM
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I would have switched to a job with the VA, federal retirement, healthcare and better workload. I thought about it at 50 and 55 but didn't I want the hour to hour and a half commute. 4 years left, I'm pretty much stuck, although I at the top of the pay scale and get OT anytime I want, so money wise I can't complain.
I hear you about the commute. I work from home 3 or 4 days a week but itís due to time zones. Iím an early riser (mostly because my wife is a nurse and when she works I cook her breakfast and walk her to her car, then someone sees me online). Some days for me, because of the time zones start at 6am and before I know it, itís 1pm and it makes no sense to shower, drive 45min to the office and leave by 4p so I donít spend 1,5 hours in traffic instead of 45min on 70mph open road. NCSUBoater knows what I am talking about.
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Old 11-08-2018, 09:50 PM
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I hear you about the commute. I work from home 3 or 4 days a week but itís due to time zones. Iím an early riser (mostly because my wife is a nurse and when she works I cook her breakfast and walk her to her car, then someone sees me online). Some days for me, because of the time zones start at 6am and before I know it, itís 1pm and it makes no sense to shower, drive 45min to the office and leave by 4p so I donít spend 1,5 hours in traffic instead of 45min on 70mph open road. NCSUBoater knows what I am talking about.
Yeah I heard that! I'm averaging 1:15 lately. Sucks, but only 3 more weeks.

Then a one month sabbatical, then starting a new position near Triangle Town Center. Should be about a 15-20 minute drive, 30 worst case.

Can't wait! 540 is really wearing on me...
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Yeah I heard that! I'm averaging 1:15 lately. Sucks, but only 3 more weeks.

Then a one month sabbatical, then starting a new position near Triangle Town Center. Should be about a 15-20 minute drive, 30 worst case.

Can't wait! 540 is really wearing on me...
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Dude, I had a 8:45 in RTP this morning. I left at 7 and got to the office at 8:40. Itís insane. Itís like living back in metro D.C. my wife hates it too. Wendell to Cary at 7am sucks worse. She was asking when we can move to New Bern this morning. Iím about ready to jump ship but I want to wait for Amazon to open and get up and running in Garner before we sell. On a side note, I stopped at the Cruisers this morning for gas and got a breakfast sandwich, it reminded me of all of the gas stations in France and Germany I have been at. Clean and good quality food. But considering we live in a town where economic development is defined by the amount of people harassing Gina Grey on Facebook for a Wendyís or Cracker Barrel I donít have high hopes the quality will last.

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Old 11-08-2018, 10:53 PM
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Iím 50 and just going back to work after 14yrs riding retirement (military guy started at 16 done at 36)done most everything I wanted to do while I was young enough to do it. I donít need to work anymore but...
1-economy is booming so hard I want a piece of the action.
2-Iím actually little bored...

Iím not looking for another career, just 2 year plan, thus Iím goin contracting...buy a few toys cash (Corvettes & Trawler) while I bank retirement checks...

Iíll second the VA idea for careers for people over 50, thought about it but again, Iím a 2 yr plan guy, VA will be there and Iíll always have 10points Veterans Preference if I wanna go federal route

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At 50yrs old I folded my independent consulting business and joined a hedge fund (developer for Quants/Market Data).
Damn, I should have done this years ago.

Some go into management but it's not for me. I'd rather stay hands-on and technical. I don't worry that I am a 1%er (one percent of company is over 50).
I do worry my salary is higher than the asian folks sitting next to me. I am better than 3 out of 4 for sure and the 4th guy is on-par with me....so I'm ok with that.

Don't complain about being tired or take too many days for doctors appointments and you'll be fine!
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Old 11-09-2018, 11:08 AM
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Dude, I had a 8:45 in RTP this morning. I left at 7 and got to the office at 8:40. Itís insane. Itís like living back in metro D.C. my wife hates it too. Wendell to Cary at 7am sucks worse. She was asking when we can move to New Bern this morning. Iím about ready to jump ship but I want to wait for Amazon to open and get up and running in Garner before we sell. On a side note, I stopped at the Cruisers this morning for gas and got a breakfast sandwich, it reminded me of all of the gas stations in France and Germany I have been at. Clean and good quality food. But considering we live in a town where economic development is defined by the amount of people harassing Gina Grey on Facebook for a Wendyís or Cracker Barrel I donít have high hopes the quality will last.
This week was horrible. Wake Forest Western side of 1 to triangle town center area was 50 min twice it's only 12 miles.
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Originally Posted by Lorne Greene View Post
2. For you older guys in the workforce what would you have done at a younger age to make ageing in the workforce easier for yourself and protect your livelihood in the workforce?
I decided when I was 41 that if I had to work for an asshole it might as well be me so I started my own business.
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Usually it is the opposite, young guys do sales-- high energy, competitive, very money motivated, on the road, on the phone, commission/sales goal driven, better looking. The older guys in the office and managing-- more level headed, responsible, senior, experienced. When your young you offer your company drive and thirst for opportunity, when you are older you offer your company experience. So that would say to go the management route. Sure you could go the other way but it will likely be harder, but that doesnt mean you cant do it. If you want ot protect your future as you get older become an expert in a specialized area and not a generalist that can be replaced by a younger person willing to work for less.
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Does moving affect your work hours and travel?
I'm in management and would not move to something different if I had to work longer, later, weekends or travel more.
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Originally Posted by Lorne Greene View Post
Currently a consulting manager for a $22B tech company running an org of 50~ people at 37. I went into management and left tech because I knew getting older and being a tech guy is a difficult gig to land and considering most tech work requires some nights and weekends I figured at 50 I would not want to do that anyways so I made the leap.

Im not sure if this is a full blown carrier path for someone to maintain in their 50s so I was thinking of moving into sales. I figure in sales if you are successful and bring home the bacon they donít care how old you are.

So im wondering two things:
1. Am I correct about sales? I know I can do it and perform well. Hell im mostly sales now just without the commission comp plan
2. For you older guys in the workforce what would you have done at a younger age to make ageing in the workforce easier for yourself and protect your livelihood in the workforce?
Can you expand on all of this a bit?

Are you currently a manager or a tech guy?

If manager, how long were you tech?

What technology?

I'm an "old man" (47) in a high tech job. It's quickly being taken over by the next generation, but my experience is valuable to the company so I choose to stay on the tech side. I've done management in the past and it's about 80% dealing with people drama. I enjoyed the customer interactions and project management side, but employees pretty much suck. Management is a mix of pre-school drama and trying to heard cats. Neither are easy or fun.

Sales is a whole different world, and not necessarily better. You'll be selling to the next generation managers, which means young kids in tech. Age is a negative there as your customers will spend more if they see you as a peer rather than an old salesman.
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Can you expand on all of this a bit?

Are you currently a manager or a tech guy?

If manager, how long were you tech?

What technology?

I'm an "old man" (47) in a high tech job. It's quickly being taken over by the next generation, but my experience is valuable to the company so I choose to stay on the tech side. I've done management in the past and it's about 80% dealing with people drama. I enjoyed the customer interactions and project management side, but employees pretty much suck. Management is a mix of pre-school drama and trying to heard cats. Neither are easy or fun.

Sales is a whole different world, and not necessarily better. You'll be selling to the next generation managers, which means young kids in tech. Age is a negative there as your customers will spend more if they see you as a peer rather than an old salesman.
I'm about the same age as you working on storage boxes, cisco switches, and servers. Most of my co-workers are in their mid forties and we also bring valuable experience. I hope to stick around as long as I'm relevant.
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Yeah I heard that! I'm averaging 1:15 lately. Sucks, but only 3 more weeks.

Then a one month sabbatical, then starting a new position near Triangle Town Center. Should be about a 15-20 minute drive, 30 worst case.

Can't wait! 540 is really wearing on me...
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I moved out of that.. used to be in N hills, now live in Cary right at ten-ten and US1. Toll road to RTP, 25 mins, no traffic. When the toll road gets backed up with traffic in a few years I am done, going to mount my horse and ride off into the sunset.
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You could get into car-sales, seens like people are looking for (cough) honest car salesman.
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Work, in general, is not what it was years ago. Without a doubt, it is harder to change jobs after 50. Wife and I agreed years ago that we didn't want to fight the triangle traffic even though the better jobs were there. Turmoil at present job now ( we were sold) so I don't know what will happen. Life is change.
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At 49 retired from LE after 27 years as a street cop. 10 months later I was talked into working at a local Sheriffs Office by the Sheriff. Went back through Field Training and a short Academy, most cops at 50 would never go back through that crap.

Worked 2 more years on the street (rotating day and midnight shifts, aucks for an old man). Now I serve paperwork in the civil unit, drive an unmarked unit AND WORK A regular dayshift with weekends off. I have never had a regular hours my entire adult life. I can see doing this for another 5 or 6 years and hanging up my Glock.
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