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Old 10-27-2018, 08:14 AM
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7 confirmed dead. WTF is wrong with people.?

Just heard suspect in custody.
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Old 10-27-2018, 08:20 AM
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Now saying 8 dead. Gunman injured.
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Old 10-27-2018, 08:28 AM
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Ts & Ps
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Old 10-27-2018, 08:29 AM
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Lots of unstable folks walking around.
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Old 10-27-2018, 08:31 AM
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We as a country became too divided. We used to be one - melting pot. Now we are groups of people hating other groups of people. United we stand - divided we fall. Every nut you see on TV these days, shooting or sending bombs in the mail, has been wiped into hate frenzy by insane media.
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Just heard thet have an ID, and he was yelling "all Jews must die".
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Shooter injured surrendered and in custody. Too much hate. This has to stop -
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Old 10-27-2018, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by chawk25 View Post
We as a country became too divided. We used to be one - melting pot. Now we are groups of people hating other groups of people. United we stand - divided we fall. Every nut you see on TV these days, shooting or sending bombs in the mail, has been wiped into hate frenzy by insane media.
Violent crime and murder are at half the rate it was during the three peaks of the 30 year decade 1970'2 through 1990's. Timothy McVeigh and friends killed 168 people. We had multiple assassinations and attempts starting with MLK, Kennedy's, Reagan, etc.. The Weather underground was an active terrorist group and the Black Panthers, regardless of "the cause" and some activities viewed as a success targeted the police using ambush style tactics. We had people shot at Kent State, and Riots in LA and Detroit to name a couple. We have also had nuts throughout history including many serial killers both famous and lesser known. We had Charles Manson inspired by a song, we had serial killers responsible for the deaths of over 60 babies, we had Jim jones that killed nearly a thousand of his followers. There was segregation (going back a bit further), the Ku Klux Clan and other violent and powerful organizations that included former members that held high political posts in the US. If you were white forget about visiting Dorchester, Roxbury and many other areas throughout the Boston area. You took the subway and got off at the wrong stop-good luck. We had cases of people spitting on vets and calling them baby killers when returning from VN.

As heinous as this act and many of the school, work and mall mass shootings that have taken place are, they are not the result of coordinated efforts of many to destabilize and drive an ideological change. In nearly all cases they involve a deranged nut who takes their marching orders from the voices in their heads and receive deluded confirmation through social media and other fringe sites that they seek.

When I travel throughout New England I come across people of all different colors, religions, political affiliations and cultural backgrounds and my experiences are nearly without exception pleasant. This is coming from a very politically conservative pretty far right of center middle aged man.
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Old 10-27-2018, 10:03 AM
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There are nut cases among us. It has always been that way.

When taking breaks from studying in the library, I used to pull a random newspaper from 1880 or so and just read it. The amount of violence then would open your eyes. And that was with many fewer people.

The instant transmission of news of such events makes it seem like they are happening more often. I don't think they are.
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Old 10-27-2018, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by chawk25 View Post
We as a country became too divided. We used to be one - melting pot. Now we are groups of people hating other groups of people. United we stand - divided we fall. Every nut you see on TV these days, shooting or sending bombs in the mail, has been wiped into hate frenzy by insane media.
The melting pot has been replaced by a salad bowl.
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And some people wonder why I carry concealed. I could elaborate but I would be banned for speaking the truth that people are afraid to hear and even if they heard it would not accept it. There are SO MANY problems in society that cause these shootings and the gun itself is not even on the list. But every "know nothing" on this planet blames the gun.
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Sad. Occurred during a Bris (boys circumcision ceremony)

Cowardly perp was and anti-semite. Antisemitism is unfortunately alive and well in the 21st century

The reality is that places of worship need to have armed security
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Old 10-27-2018, 10:23 AM
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God knows how many are dead. Sounds like anti-semitic white supremacist.
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Originally Posted by nibble View Post
And some people wonder why I carry concealed. I could elaborate but I would be banned for speaking the truth that people are afraid to hear and even if they heard it would not accept it. There are SO MANY problems in society that cause these shootings and the gun itself is not even on the list. But every "know nothing" on this planet blames the gun.
First!

Was waiting for this post. Thank you.

Media should start blaming the gun soon. I've preach that we need more concealed carry. Also, every mall, school, theater, place of worship, restaurant needs to have armed guards, single point entries, CCTV, security checkpoints. We have the ability to protect ourselves but choose not too.
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Originally Posted by shalodrf View Post
First!

Was waiting for this post. Thank you.

Media should start blaming the gun soon. I've preach that we need more concealed carry. Also, every mall, school, theater, place of worship, restaurant needs to have armed guards, single point entries, CCTV, security checkpoints. We have the ability to protect ourselves but choose not too.
Armed guards every where would have someone to respond quicker to this type of thing if they are trained and willing to jump out there and confront the perps quickly, so it may keep the number of injured down in some cases, but it would not prevent it from happening.

just hope the guards control where their bullets fly to in the heat of it all.
after all there are usually a lot of innocents running all over when it comes down
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Originally Posted by shalodrf View Post
Yep. Another FALSE FLAG. Not saying it didn't happen, but...
Can you expnd on that a bit? I'm curious as to what you think is a false flag about this and why.
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Old 10-27-2018, 10:55 AM
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Let's not make this about gun policy or politics.

It's about hate.
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Originally Posted by Sprockets View Post
Let's not make this about gun policy or politics.

It's about hate.
I though hate crimes were illegal.
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Old 10-27-2018, 11:50 AM
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What a nut job! He posted this on facebook. what does he mean? " HIAS likes to bring invaders in that kill our people. I can’t sit by and watch my people get slaughtered, screw the optics, I’m going in.”
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