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Old 10-09-2018, 05:33 PM
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Wife's 2012 Lincoln has 120K so we went and looked at the 2018/19 MKX and we were just ho-hum. Looked at Jaguar F-Pace and Range Rover online which look ok, but I want something dependable.
Saw the Aviator online and it looks good to us so we are thinking of waiting for that next year and ordering it optioned how she wants. The MDX and Infiinty QX80 have a Japanese feel to the interior that she's not fond of.
We don't need the third row seating but don't mind it. Any thoughts on the Aviator? Would like to stay under 80K for budget.
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Old 10-09-2018, 05:42 PM
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Sounds like you’ve had a good experience with Lincoln, and the new aviator looks sharp.

That being said, with you’re kind of budget I’d be looking at a Yukon Denali or one of the German midsize. GLE 350, Q7, X5, etc.
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Old 10-09-2018, 06:07 PM
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The new Aviator looks like a homerun and Lincoln will have no problem selling tons of them. The only issue will be, when it launches there will be no deals and hard to get, much like the new Navigator which is a homerun as well.
I agree, the MDX is just okay, Infinty has a CVT and need a new interior, the Lexus RX with the 3rd row sucks, there will be a new GLE launched shortly that will have a 3rd row and looks promising.
I'd wait for the new Aviator...it will have great engine choices, a 10 speed, RWD/AWD, and a very nice interior.
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Old 10-09-2018, 06:17 PM
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I would not buy first year Fords ( or any other brand) unless it is very late in the model year. There are a LOT of patches/udpates/fixes that happen in the first 6-8 months of production.

I work in the auto industry, for all of the major brands. The Aviator on the lot 9 months after launch will be significantly tighter with many fewer issues than the first month vehicles. They only find so much with the test mules.

And if you want something truly dependable you need to get over that Japanese feel unless you plan to trade in before 150k.

Avoiding Jag and Rover is a smart move, for all their style they still lead the pack in shop time.
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Old 10-09-2018, 08:05 PM
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I would buy the new Expedition for probably about the same price as the Aviator.

Isn't Lincoln's resale about like Caddy's? Terrible?

The new Expedition is very sporty. Much nicer looking than GM offerings that looks like a funeral is happening.
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Why anyone would buy a new car is beyond me. Take that money and buy the best used car out there with low miles. The Cadillacs have the worst re-sale value of any car. As soon as you drive it off the lot, you're losing 20%.
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We just bought an F-Pace S AWD Black Edition. My wife likes it better than her AMG GLS63. The reliability problems were decades ago.
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My wife has a MKC and we are really impressed with it. I have been thinking of getting a Aviator for myself as the MKC is a bit too small for me. Her car has been flawless in the three years we owned it and got a great deal with X plan pricing on it.
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Old 10-10-2018, 06:51 AM
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Is the Aviator going to have the Perfect Position seats like the Navigator and Continental? My wife has a lot of back problems (too many years as a gymnast). After driving Acuras and Volvos for years, she tried a Continental Black Label with those seats, and was sold.
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Have you looked at cayenne’s? They give Lexus a run for their money on dependability and knowing a pair of dentists that have owned 4 3 of which were well over 150k miles before they traded in without any major issues is pretty telling. I absolutely love my wife’s macan but it is a smaller suv more similar to a crossover.
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Get a Cayenne, best SUV on the market
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ours just turned 60k miles and runs flawlessly. Highly recommended,especially if you appreciate the Porsche handling.
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Originally Posted by shalodrf View Post
Why anyone would buy a new car is beyond me. Take that money and buy the best used car out there with low miles. The Cadillacs have the worst re-sale value of any car. As soon as you drive it off the lot, you're losing 20%.
I'll take a Escalade's resale over anything German. The reality is, all luxury vehicles don't have great resale.

Not everyone wants a used car....omething that has already been worn in.
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Thanks for the recommendations. The Cayenne was originally something we looked at on the internet, but I was concerned about Porsche (and German in general) maintenance costs. (see: BMW bulletin to change battery at oil change interval https://f15.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=19092468) If ownership costs are not going to be a big consideration maybe we should take another look.
SWA737 - The Aviator is supposed to have the 30 way massaging seats.
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cayenne maintenance has been minimal. Oil changes run $250 every 5-6k miles, ,brakes about $500 every 25000 miles and fuel filters every 2yrs. The key is to avoid the stealerships as their charges run about double. I have a great independent mechanic and use him for everything not covered by warranty. If you're not concerned with handling and exceptional engineering, stay away from a cayenne.
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Porsche is at the top of the group . Escalade is bigger but not Porsche quality . Big benzes are also very nice . Go look and drive a cayenne . If a sclade is anything like my sierra you won't be able to see out of it .
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Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT. $80,000 should get you a loaded one, 475 horse power V8 fun! I am on my 2nd GC and love it, no issues at all. Only reason I got rid of the first one is it was the Laredo model with no options. Plan to drive my current one into the ground.
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Originally Posted by RyanL11 View Post
I'll take a Escalade's resale over anything German. The reality is, all luxury vehicles don't have great resale.

Not everyone wants a used car....omething that has already been worn in.

The Escalade has a HORRIBLE resale value
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Originally Posted by Trayscool View Post
The Escalade has a HORRIBLE resale value
rated the worst value in luxury SUV's every year to

Guy on here has one for sale for a while now. Its like new and cant get within 20 grand of what he paid for it. That's terrible resale for you.
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Originally Posted by skindr View Post
cayenne maintenance has been minimal. Oil changes run $250 every 5-6k miles, ,brakes about $500 every 25000 miles and fuel filters every 2yrs. The key is to avoid the stealerships as their charges run about double. I have a great independent mechanic and use him for everything not covered by warranty. If you're not concerned with handling and exceptional engineering, stay away from a cayenne.
this is good to hear. Cayenne is top of my list when it comes time to trade my wife’s Mercedes... if we’re not looking for 3rd row by then.
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