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Old 09-09-2018, 11:16 AM
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The only question I have is why is she walking around free. There's no reasonable scenario here that says it was a good shooting. The only question is what kind of crime was this.

If he'd had a gun and shot her, even inside his apartment, does anyone think he'd be free right now?
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Old 09-09-2018, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ronp364 View Post
The only question I have is why is she walking around free. There's no reasonable scenario here that says it was a good shooting. The only question is what kind of crime was this.

If he'd had a gun and shot her, even inside his apartment, does anyone think he'd be free right now?
Agreed. If I walked to my neighbors house and shot him as he answered the door, then admitted to doing it, id be in jail within an hour. No way would I be free all weekend. There is absolutely no reason she should be free right now.
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Old 09-09-2018, 11:59 AM
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Agreed. If I walked to my neighbors house and shot him as he answered the door, then admitted to doing it, id be in jail within an hour. No way would I be free all weekend. There is absolutely no reason she should be free right now.
A creditable self defense claim? As long as justice is served then her not being in jail over the weekend doen't matter much. From the sounds of it, she will soon enough. It's a damn shame some of you feel like making it about race when there is no evidence that race had anything to do with it.
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Old 09-09-2018, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ronp364 View Post
The only question I have is why is she walking around free. There's no reasonable scenario here that says it was a good shooting. The only question is what kind of crime was this.

If he'd had a gun and shot her, even inside his apartment, does anyone think he'd be free right now?
If he was a cop.
The only color that matters here is blue.
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Old 09-09-2018, 01:12 PM
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Ok lets take "poetic license/journalistic license" whatever you wanna call it, lets assume that YES they DID know each other and know each other in a way that they had ill feelings for each other (either had in the past been "boot knocking" friendly or they were drinking buddies now turned enemies). Ok so she then shoots him for any reasons related to a personal matter (fill in the blank as to which, like I said in this example I'm going with they DID know each other), ok so he's unfortunately dead, she DID kill him for some personal reason.... NOW the question, should the DPD and TX Taxpayers be held liable for her personal actions???

I think NOT but that's just me.

I guess the question in this example is, why should a persons actions in a personal case like this (non-related to her being a LEO) result in the LEOs employer being held liable for that persons actions? She wasn't on duty, she wasn't pursuing a suspect/investigating/chasing bumps in the night etc...
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Ok lets take "poetic license/journalistic license" whatever you wanna call it, lets assume that YES they DID know each other and know each other in a way that they had ill feelings for each other (either had in the past been "boot knocking" friendly or they were drinking buddies now turned enemies). Ok so she then shoots him for any reasons related to a personal matter (fill in the blank as to which, like I said in this example I'm going with they DID know each other), ok so he's unfortunately dead, she DID kill him for some personal reason.... NOW the question, should the DPD and TX Taxpayers be held liable for her personal actions???

I think NOT but that's just me.

I guess the question in this example is, why should a persons actions in a personal case like this (non-related to her being a LEO) result in the LEOs employer being held liable for that persons actions? She wasn't on duty, she wasn't pursuing a suspect/investigating/chasing bumps in the night etc...
I am not sure why this is more important than justice right now, and not saying I agree or disagree with a lawsuit against DPD but I assume she did use her service weapon in the murder. It said she was in uniform also right? The unknowing guy probably looked through the peephole saw a police officer and opened the door to see what was going on.
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Originally Posted by Milehog View Post
If he was a cop.
The only color that matters here is blue.
I agree. My post wasn't about any race but the blue one. There's too much deference to the uniform here, or at least there's too little recognition that they are creating the perception that there is.

What does anyone think the "investigation" is right now? It's of course the hunt by most of the Dallas PD for dirt on the victim to mitigate or somehow justify what happened.

The only racial angle is: here is a case where an administration can easily score points with a certain constituency by acting promptly. And they blow it by moving at a glacial pace. From a political angle, the Dallas officials are dumb.
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I to have got off on the wrong floor of a hotel and tried to open a door with a key card. Didnt realize it till I headed back to elevator to go to front desk to ask for another card. So after reading the post from the neighbor whom shared a wall with the dead guy, I am fairly convinced this was a horrible accident. The neighbor says the cop was crying hysterically, so she obviously knew made a terrible mistake. I do not think she knew the guy, but even if she did, she would have probably had a hard time identifying him in the low light that is apparent in the pictures posted immediatley after the shooting. She just finished an arrest which caused her to work overtime on a 12 hour shift. So she was probably tired. Got off the elevator, walks to what she thinks is her door, starts swiping card. It's not working, then soemone inside what she thinks is her apartment starts talking and probably moving the door knob/ lever. At this point she has probably drawn her weapon, and giving verbal commands to what she thinks is a burglar. Soon as the door opens she probably has a finger on the trigger. I'm sure she will regret the next few seconds of her life for the rest of her life. I dont see that as being to hard to believe. We may never know unless she is a honest person
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I to have got off on the wrong floor of a hotel and tried to open a door with a key card. Didnt realize it till I headed back to elevator to go to front desk to ask for another card. So after reading the post from the neighbor whom shared a wall with the dead guy, I am fairly convinced this was a horrible accident. The neighbor says the cop was crying hysterically, so she obviously knew made a terrible mistake. I do not think she knew the guy, but even if she did, she would have probably had a hard time identifying him in the low light that is apparent in the pictures posted immediatley after the shooting. She just finished an arrest which caused her to work overtime on a 12 hour shift. So she was probably tired. Got off the elevator, walks to what she thinks is her door, starts swiping card. It's not working, then soemone inside what she thinks is her apartment starts talking and probably moving the door knob/ lever. At this point she has probably drawn her weapon, and giving verbal commands to what she thinks is a burglar. Soon as the door opens she probably has a finger on the trigger. I'm sure she will regret the next few seconds of her life for the rest of her life. I dont see that as being to hard to believe. We may never know unless she is a honest person
Hotel and the door you come home to every day of your life are two very different things. But, alas, you have made up a narrative which fits for you. Congrats. Other neighbors interviewed reported an argument before any shooting.

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Torfed, no reason to bring politics into it. I agree with what your saying and I'm conservative. These issues aren't really tied to political beliefs.

plus I'm in before it hits the bilge!
I didn't start that. Poster I was responding to did, citing 'before the left can start race baiting and make it a circus' or something along those lines. Frankly every post from that guy I have seen on this site brings politics into everything.
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Hotel and the door you come home to every day of your life are two very different things. But, alas, you have made up a narrative which fits for you. Congrats. Other neighbors interviewed reported an argument before any shooting.



I didn't start that. Poster I was responding to did, citing 'before the left can start race baiting and make it a circus' or something along those lines. Frankly every post from that guy I have seen on this site brings politics into everything.
The argument is her probably screaming orders to a perceived burglar thru a door.
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Let's not forget... she took the elevator to the wrong floor.
tried to open the wrong door - one or more stories above her apartment
resident opens the door, some time around 2 am, and gets shot inside his home.
Terrible mistake, but she man-slaughtered that resident.

I predict, 5 years lock-up, multi-million dollar civil suit and no chance of ever working in law enforcement for the rest of her life.

Glad that I don't live in an apartment tower. And if I did, there would be a high level of communication before the door opens.
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Old 09-10-2018, 05:14 AM
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Looks like she's now been arrested for manslaughter.
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Looks like she's now been arrested for manslaughter.
It took so long because the first judge refused to sign a warrant for manslaughter, and said it should be a murder warrant.
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Where are all the police boot lickers who should be rushing to this sows defense?
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Old 09-10-2018, 03:03 PM
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Tragic,and sad.
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Where are all the police boot lickers who should be rushing to this sows defense?
Hopefully the same place as all the cop haters. Not here but alas....
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Old 09-11-2018, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by TorFed View Post
Hotel and the door you come home to every day of your life are two very different things. But, alas, you have made up a narrative which fits for you. Congrats. Other neighbors interviewed reported an argument before any shooting.



I didn't start that. Poster I was responding to did, citing 'before the left can start race baiting and make it a circus' or something along those lines. Frankly every post from that guy I have seen on this site brings politics into everything.
My bad, didn't see that.
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Tragic
Address she gave on the first 911 call might shed some light on the situation.
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Old 09-12-2018, 09:12 AM
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Hopefully the same place as all the cop haters. Not here but alas....
THT has alot of pretty good people as posters. Over the years I have only seen very few "cop haters" on THT. I do see quite a few THT posters that want accountability for bad LEO's and/or ones that break the law.

Either way, as sad as this situation is, there does need to be accountability. In the US you should not be allowed to go to someone's home and shoot them without repercussion even if the shooter is a LEO.
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Either way, as sad as this situation is, there does need to be accountability. In the US you should not be allowed to go to someone's home and shoot them without repercussion even if the shooter is a LEO.
There is hopefully no one who disagrees with this. I was pointing out the irony of the posters comments. Right and wrong should not be clouded by political viewpoints.
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