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Old 09-06-2018, 09:35 AM
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Friend of mine got a letter stating he is under investigation for a rental house he owns. Found him via online booking site. Has anyone heard of anyone actually being fined? It states it will be $7500. Seems like itís not a hard case to prove imo.
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Old 09-06-2018, 09:42 AM
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I got fined 2000 10 yrs ago.
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Old 09-06-2018, 09:42 AM
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A letter from whom? Who is doing the investigation? What is your friend supposedly guilty of?
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Old 09-06-2018, 09:43 AM
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Fined for what?
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Old 09-06-2018, 09:46 AM
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Fined for what?
A short term rental.
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Old 09-06-2018, 09:56 AM
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Under 28 day rentals arenít allowed, letter is from the city.
A google search shows a handful of people fined, but seems like they are repeat offenders.
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where to idiots that make these sorts of insane rules come from. They need to get a life.
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
where to idiots that make these sorts of insane rules come from. They need to get a life.
they want the tax dollars, with Airbnb similar sites they lose the revenue
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You guys have no idea how expensive and the process you have to go through to rent weekly or transient rental. They collect big money. If was only supposed to be a big entry fee and then greatly reduced annual fee. Nope they got a taste of the money. How about needing things like an exit plan. ( There is only one door) How about a strobe light smoke detector for having people that are all deaf in your place. I could go on, but why bother. It will only get worse. Probably a big hotel lobby greasing things.
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Tell your friend to call atty Trip Bechert/Pompano Beach. He owns a place in Key Largo and just went thru this. 954.941.8363. He had to appear in court but I believe he got the fine waived.
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Not just the hotels, but residents put pressure on this big time. People don't want a motel next to their home or in their neighborhood. they bought their house in a neighborhood zoned residential, and that's what they expect.
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The rule was probably already there when he bought the house so I'm guessing he knew he was violating the regulation.
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Old 09-06-2018, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
where to idiots that make these sorts of insane rules come from. They need to get a life.
Well, I certainly see your side. However, I live in a neighborhood where short term rentals (under 28 days) are not allowed. I just moved there 2 months ago (my house was destroyed by Irma, so I'm new to the Ramrod Key community).

I was in temp housing on Little Torch Key for 9 months. The house across the street was a rental, sometimes legal (28 days or more) but most of the time they rented out the house 3 to 7 days in length. It's a house listed on VRBO.

Short term renters can be hit or miss, but 80% of the time they are AWFUL. Imagine a family from Miami, they rent the house for a long weekend, it's only a 2/2 but they pack 14 people in it. 5 cars. 2 boats. Blasting music all weekend long, kids running and screaming jumping in and out of the pool until midnight. Coming home from work and there's a boat trailer parked in front of YOUR gate blocking the driveway. A language barrier because I don't speak Spanish and all I want is the goddam trailer moved and a cold beer. Overflowing trash cans that invariably fall over because they're too full and now the Miami family is gone and trash pickup isn't until Tuesday. Now there's trash everywhere, blowing around the street and the home owner lives in Illinois. -*this exact scenario played itself out several times over the last 9 months. The only reason I didn't report them was because I was a guest in my temp housing situation.

So yeah, short term weekend rentals (the illegal ones) SUCK. I specifically bought a house that has NO short term rentals anywhere near my new house.

While I understand your point, I'll bet if this happened next door to you you'd go ballistic.
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Originally Posted by WPBTH View Post
Friend of mine got a letter stating he is under investigation for a rental house he owns. Found him via online booking site. Has anyone heard of anyone actually being fined? It states it will be $7500. Seems like itís not a hard case to prove imo.
Unless he's a repeat, several timed warned offender, these fines can usually be settled for 10% on the dollar or less. He's also now on their radar, if he doesn't cease and desist he'll get hammered in future fines.
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My family owns a house we built on Cudjoe, 40yrs ago, on a canal. There are 3-4 houses in close proximity. Prior to the ban on short term rentals, you would get like ten in a house for a weekend or week, partying like crazy into the wee hours. My folks lived there, and both worked. Hard to get any sleep. Many call to the MCSO to get them to quiet things down, but often they would not show up, being busy with other stuff. Other full time residents were equally put off.

I don't really like the rule, but I understand why it came about.
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Yeah - it's real. My folks did short term rentals up in the keys until a short time ago. They developed a nice base of repeat customers but still advertised on VRBO to fill in gaps.
Most of the folks that they rented to were fine. in 15 years or so doing it they had 2 - 3 "problem" customers so I guess they got lucky. The real problem was with a long term rental.
Retired couple - guy blew his brains out in the bedrrom. Wife moved out in the middle of the night a few weeks later. Drug addict, felon POS son then took up residence for 3 agonizing
months till the MC Sherrif's office finally dragged his ass out. My folks are out of the rental business and I'm glad....
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Originally Posted by WPBTH View Post
Friend of mine got a letter stating he is under investigation for a rental house he owns. Found him via online booking site. Has anyone heard of anyone actually being fined? It states it will be $7500. Seems like it’s not a hard case to prove imo.
I know a few that have been nailed. Marathon for example has full time employees looking for illegal rentals. They search all the advertising sites to catch them. I had a friend years ago that was warned repeatedly, and was fined $10K


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You guys have no idea how expensive and the process you have to go through to rent weekly or transient rental. They collect big money. If was only supposed to be a big entry fee and then greatly reduced annual fee. Nope they got a taste of the money. How about needing things like an exit plan. ( There is only one door) How about a strobe light smoke detector for having people that are all deaf in your place. I could go on, but why bother. It will only get worse. Probably a big hotel lobby greasing things.
You got that right, the fees are crazy and getting worst by the year.

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Well, I certainly see your side. However, I live in a neighborhood where short term rentals (under 28 days) are not allowed. I just moved there 2 months ago (my house was destroyed by Irma, so I'm new to the Ramrod Key community).

I was in temp housing on Little Torch Key for 9 months. The house across the street was a rental, sometimes legal (28 days or more) but most of the time they rented out the house 3 to 7 days in length. It's a house listed on VRBO.

Short term renters can be hit or miss, but 80% of the time they are AWFUL. Imagine a family from Miami, they rent the house for a long weekend, it's only a 2/2 but they pack 14 people in it. 5 cars. 2 boats. Blasting music all weekend long, kids running and screaming jumping in and out of the pool until midnight. Coming home from work and there's a boat trailer parked in front of YOUR gate blocking the driveway. A language barrier because I don't speak Spanish and all I want is the goddam trailer moved and a cold beer. Overflowing trash cans that invariably fall over because they're too full and now the Miami family is gone and trash pickup isn't until Tuesday. Now there's trash everywhere, blowing around the street and the home owner lives in Illinois. -*this exact scenario played itself out several times over the last 9 months. The only reason I didn't report them was because I was a guest in my temp housing situation.

So yeah, short term weekend rentals (the illegal ones) SUCK. I specifically bought a house that has NO short term rentals anywhere near my new house.

While I understand your point, I'll bet if this happened next door to you you'd go ballistic.
I also understand your point, when we bought years ago we went to every neighbor and introduced ourselves, gave them our cell and home numbers and asked them to call us if they even had the slightest complaint. I know everyone of my neighbors up and down and across the canal. If I ever get a complaint I will guarantee those people will never be welcome back. Knock on wood that has not happened yet. It also helps that I am down there quite a bit.
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interesting. Me and college friends go once a year for about a week and use airbnb to book a place. I can tell you right now none of us could take off a whole month to come down for vacation. With all the hurricane damage you would think they would allow one week rentals. unless I am missing something
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Originally Posted by WPBTH View Post
Friend of mine got a letter stating he is under investigation for a rental house he owns. Found him via online booking site. Has anyone heard of anyone actually being fined? It states it will be $7500. Seems like itís not a hard case to prove imo.
Is your friend above the law?
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Democratic America: Where you pay to "own" a piece of property. Yeah, right.
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