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Old 09-06-2018, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by caltexflanc View Post
So you can't afford it. Then move on to someplace you can. Pretty simple.
great when the open market determines who can and can’t afford stuff. Downright questionable when the government does it on a particular groups behalf.
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Old 09-06-2018, 06:39 PM
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I bought where I did on Cudjoe Key so if I want to rent on even a daily basis I can legally, it's all about doing your homework upfront. I have a slit home on the water in a community that has a marina with fuel and a store, pool, tennis courts, etc etc etc. I have direct access to both the the gulf and Atlantic and some of the best fishing and diving in the Keys. I don't rent my home personalty but a lot of investors here do and own 6 or more places making a bundle $$$ doing it. There is even an on-site realtor to manage your rentals for you if you want. It's all about the zoning!
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Old 09-06-2018, 06:46 PM
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Bunch of garbage if you ask me as I write this from a home we are renting in Little Torch. We can barely even find a place to rent in the Keys any longer due to this BS rule. Who can take a month off work and afford to pay 12k a month for a place to stay? Who can afford to buy a home in the Keys and not be able to rent it out to offset the absurd taxes, maintenance, insurance, etc by renting it when your not there? If anyone has a place available in Cudjoe for miniseason week for the next 5 years straight please let me know. No large groups, no parties, etc.

We also own our own vacation rental in Tarpon springs area. Most of our renters are 65 and up OR young professionals. We’ve never had an issue with noise, etc. However ppl still feel the need to make it an issue simply to enforce the rules.
So stay in a hotel. Or pony up.
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Old 09-06-2018, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Coral Head View Post
I bought where I did on Cudjoe Key so if I want to rent on even a daily basis I can legally, it's all about doing your homework upfront. I have a slit home on the water in a community that has a marina with fuel and a store, pool, tennis courts, etc etc etc. I have direct access to both the the gulf and Atlantic and some of the best fishing and diving in the Keys. I don't rent my home personalty but a lot of investors here do and own 6 or more places making a bundle $$$ doing it. There is even an on-site realtor to manage your rentals for you if you want. It's all about the zoning!
ZONING ??? HA.............

Florida has some of the worst zoning in the country, there can be a trailer park ( & they have a few ) located right next to a multi - million dollar home. Or commercial property gas station / shopping mall, school, low end older condo complex, hospital, right next to or across the street from a beautiful high end big $$$ gated community !!!
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Old 09-06-2018, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Mata Peje View Post
ZONING ??? HA.............

Florida has some of the worst zoning in the country, there can be a trailer park ( & they have a few ) located right next to a multi - million dollar home. Or commercial property gas station / shopping mall, school, low end older condo complex, hospital, right next to or across the street from a beautiful high end big $$$ gated community !!!
perhaps that “garbage” was there first. People building next to a trailer park and complaining about the red necks that live there is about as bad as those that build next to a racetrack and complain about the nose, or next door to a chicken farm and bitch about the smell.
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Old 09-06-2018, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post


perhaps that “garbage” was there first. People building next to a trailer park and complaining about the red necks that live there is about as bad as those that build next to a racetrack and complain about the nose, or next door to a chicken farm and bitch about the smell.
................or a highway or train tracks, it still does'nt fix the poor "ZONING" laws in Florida !!!
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Old 09-06-2018, 07:45 PM
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Im not sure what the answer to this is but I for one would appreciate some sort of reasonable weekly rentals down there. We were home owners for years and never rented out, life has not allowed us to use it like we were but we would like to spend a week here or there down in the keys mainly during the summer. I dont want to be a burden but my wife and kids would love to spend a week a year there. I, for one, dont think that its a reasonable law. As far as im concerned the issue with the poor renters is the fact that its all done under the table. If it was out in the open and reasonable, there would be a much better clientele driving up prices of homes etc.
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Old 09-06-2018, 08:08 PM
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Glad I enjoyed the Keys in the 70's, 80's, and 90's. Things went downhill big time after that.
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Old 09-07-2018, 04:03 AM
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Glad I enjoyed the Keys in the 70's, 80's, and 90's. Things went downhill big time after that.
Well, it's just different now. I started coming here when I was an infant, my dad and I built 4 houses in the Lower Keys starting in 1985 and had them wrapped up by 1988. That's working almost every weekend and holiday for 3 years. Sold 3 and kept 1.

I've lived here since 1991 and the way I explain it to my friends is "the secret is out". The Keys are wildly popular, and like any where that is wildly popular it's often to it's demise. However, strict building codes and zoning has helped. Unfortunately, those "dirty trailer parks" was the character of the Keys that is getting bulldozed away and the building rights "transferred" by multi-million dollar developers like Pritam Singh. We no longer have a working class, almost everyone struggles a bit financially. Some figure it out, some leave the Keys with a mountain of debt.

The Keys are still great, it's just becoming a playground of the wealthy. Islamorada has seen the most dramatic shift (in my opinion). Key West was always pricey but now it's just insane. I just bought a hurricane damaged home for over $500,000, and I'm where the "poor" people live up on Ramrod Key. I will satisfy my mortgage when I'm 77. But, it's home and there's no where I'd rather be.
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Old 09-07-2018, 05:55 AM
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We went down there 2-4 weeks a year for over 20 years. We fished, caught bugs, and enjoyed rental homes and the Sugarloaf Lodge. The place was always magical to me and I always wanted to move there. Last time I went was in 2005 a week before Wilma. Took my new wife and stayed at the lodge. My favorite Atlantic side reefs appeared to be completely dead coral and no fish, vs. all the snapper, grouper, and bugs I used to see there. But the lodge was same as it had been practically since the 70's. I made the remark some things never change. That was the end of that.
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Old 09-07-2018, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Coral Head View Post
I bought where I did on Cudjoe Key so if I want to rent on even a daily basis I can legally, it's all about doing your homework upfront. I have a slit home on the water in a community that has a marina with fuel and a store, pool, tennis courts, etc etc etc. I have direct access to both the the gulf and Atlantic and some of the best fishing and diving in the Keys. I don't rent my home personalty but a lot of investors here do and own 6 or more places making a bundle $$$ doing it. There is even an on-site realtor to manage your rentals for you if you want. It's all about the zoning!
Venture Out?

It works there because they don't allow the nonsense in that park.
The house I rented for 10 years straight in Marathon was surrounded by rentals. We were renting for 2 months at a time.
Some of the people coming in for the week were just pigs. Loud, doing stupid shit beyond belief. This is a 1.3 million dollar property I was renting. I put up with the BS for the most part as a renter. If I lived there full time and owned the place I would not be happy with this weekly rental going on around me.

Seems some people just go nuts when on vacation in a rental home and do shit they would never think of in their own home.
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Old 09-07-2018, 07:24 AM
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A few years back, Marathon was considering some major changes in the vacation rentals. They were proposing things like owners of rentals must call Marathon and check in before they could use their own homes personally. They also wanted our and our guests licence plate numbers before we arrived. Also proposed was not allowing owners to park in the street, but all the full time residents could. My wife and I were invited to speak at the city council meeting.

It turned out that one person was making the same complaints every day and convinced his councilmember to put it to a vote. When questioned about police calls regarding vacation rentals it was discovered that not one squad was dispatched to any rentals, up until that day except the one guy complaining. He was generating all the calls himself. I will admit I was even surprised by that. This guy was actually going over to this particular rental and harassing every renter, taking pictures of them, yelling at the family's, doing whatever he could to cause trouble. Thankfully all the other councilemembers recognized this and voted to not make any changes.

I am not saying there can never be problems, but in the 10 years I have owned we have never had one police call to our home.
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Old 09-07-2018, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by mwgoldman View Post
Im not sure what the answer to this is but I for one would appreciate some sort of reasonable weekly rentals down there. We were home owners for years and never rented out, life has not allowed us to use it like we were but we would like to spend a week here or there down in the keys mainly during the summer. I dont want to be a burden but my wife and kids would love to spend a week a year there. I, for one, dont think that its a reasonable law. As far as im concerned the issue with the poor renters is the fact that its all done under the table. If it was out in the open and reasonable, there would be a much better clientele driving up prices of homes etc.
Those “poor” renters. Lol. If we could just keep all the “poor” people out of the Keys, then it would be beautiful again. I think you should look at Ocean Reef Club. It may suit you. You smell terrific.
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Old 09-07-2018, 08:45 AM
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Well, it's just different now. I started coming here when I was an infant, my dad and I built 4 houses in the Lower Keys starting in 1985 and had them wrapped up by 1988. That's working almost every weekend and holiday for 3 years. Sold 3 and kept 1.

I've lived here since 1991 and the way I explain it to my friends is "the secret is out". The Keys are wildly popular, and like any where that is wildly popular it's often to it's demise. However, strict building codes and zoning has helped. Unfortunately, those "dirty trailer parks" was the character of the Keys that is getting bulldozed away and the building rights "transferred" by multi-million dollar developers like Pritam Singh. We no longer have a working class, almost everyone struggles a bit financially. Some figure it out, some leave the Keys with a mountain of debt.

The Keys are still great, it's just becoming a playground of the wealthy. Islamorada has seen the most dramatic shift (in my opinion). Key West was always pricey but now it's just insane. I just bought a hurricane damaged home for over $500,000, and I'm where the "poor" people live up on Ramrod Key. I will satisfy my mortgage when I'm 77. But, it's home and there's no where I'd rather be.
The Keys are suffering the same problem almost all of Florida is facing. Too many tourists. Last year (2017) we had 116.5 million tourists. That's 5.5 times as many tourists as residents. Seems like all of the people complaining about Florida are causing the problems they're complaining about.

Florida sucks; go somewhere else.
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Originally Posted by mikefloyd View Post
The Keys are suffering the same problem almost all of Florida is facing. Too many tourists. Last year (2017) we had 116.5 million tourists. That's 5.5 times as many tourists as residents. Seems like all of the people complaining about Florida are causing the problems they're complaining about.

Florida sucks; go somewhere else.
well I have a real nice 3bdrm 3 bth waterfront home for sale at mm8 if anyone is interested. It’s on E Rockland Key and there are only 2 streets on our island. $625k and it’s yours.
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Originally Posted by vincentdivincenzo View Post
Why I'm in the mountains no baloney ,shoot ,pee,off the mt n nobody here but me
I bet the flats and offshore fishing is world class too.................
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Old 09-07-2018, 09:46 AM
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The Keys is known for it's restrictions on short term rentals. If you ignore those restrictions you will be fined. A little due diligence goes a long way. Simple, if you want to do weekly rentals buy in an area that allows weeklies, get the licenses, pay the taxes,
Easy enough, if you don't follow the rules you deserve to be fined.
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Old 09-07-2018, 09:54 AM
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While we have rented a house the keys are more fun on a yacht.

Only bad thing is not a lot of places we could go in (as far as marinas) due to draft. Ocean reef, boot key harbor (marathon), stock island and key west.

Pass the grey poupon.

(Just kidding on the mustard on my buddies yacht we mainly have cajun food)
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Or worst a family from MD
Acushnet. lol.
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Old 09-07-2018, 10:58 AM
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I own a rental property in a resort close to Marathon . The resort takes care of all the legalities of short term rentals and we have gotten a net income of over $40k or better until Irma shut the resort down for a year and the income went to zero. Very strict noise rules and any complaints are handled by the cops who station an off duty officer on hand. First time is a warning,, second visit that day results in the offender forced out of the property under police watch with no refunds..We love the resort and stay at the house often in the off season.
My last home was in Key West. Here only certain areas allow rentals less than 6mos. For a transient license the fee is $40k and the owner must agree to have a person available to answer any complaints within the hr. Any violations results in revocation of the license. Fines are $10k and up.




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