madhatter1

Not a real poll, just a discussion. Here in St Pete FL all the restaurants doing this no plastic straws thing on the premise that these ALL (yes, caps lock is on rdbag) end up in the ocean. So we get no straw or a paper straw that fall apart in two sips.

FACTS:!
I am not against clean anything
I have never seen a straw on the beach EVER (yes, caps stuck on rdbag)
Everyplace we ever go replaces every plastic cup with a new one EVERY drink.That's real waste.
All restaurant trash goes to the lend fill, even all the plastic cups, how do the straws get sorted out and thrown in the water???

I could go on and on but in reality why not reuse the cup and the straw until the patron leaves?? This whole straw crisis is fictitious and a made up fake news issue. That said by me if someone has real evidence of a real issue I am very open to discussion and acceptance of a real issue that needs to be resolved. To me if we are so concerned about plastic sent to the landfill (how the straws but not the cups get to the water is beyond me) why not just reuse as much as possible. Why the hell is the straw the culprit???

Yes this might seem trivial crap to complain about but its a big thing here. Let them take away straws for no real reason and what's next?

Yes I know this is doomed to the bilge before second page.

Tarpon65

What the HELL is "rdbag"?

madhatter1

Double tyme

madhatter1

I respect your thoughts, although I must admit its mostly because of your gigantic fleet of super impressive vessels.

TorFed

Not a ton of full sized straws, but certainly a lot of drink stir straws. Order I see of non-biodegradable trash I see is cigarette butts, balloons, drink stirs/straws.

Reduction of plastics near marine environments is a good thing. People who whine because they don't have straws and apparently nobody taught them how to drink without them when they were a child? Not so much.

bjm9818

What kind of manginas do we have around here that need to drink out of a straw? Yes my iced tea to go cup with a straw is great but 50% of the time I ditch the straw, pop the lid and take a swig.

i do see straws on the beach when I go buy cigarettes butts outnumber them 100:1

SeaCat22

madhatter1

So up North this is a real problem? We just don't have this down here. Are they doing the straw ban up there?

And for the mangina comment try drinking a frozen drink without a straw. Also try drinking the floater without mixing it. But comment is welcome.

Point is the straws are not flooding the oceans as portrayed.

bikem

My wife worked beach patrol on a atv on Folly Beach for 2 years. One of her jobs was to pick up garbage. One of her biggest complaints was the straws, wrappers, and juice bags kids left on the beach. That and panties, rubbers ect she had to pick up every morning. The wind blows everything and tourist are pigs. The reason you don't see it is people who work for the beach clean it up.

duke460

madhatter1

Wow, The poor turtle thing is hard to watch.

madhatter1

Point taken sir. Where we go boating we just don't see this so maybe more prevalent in the tourist areas.

Lets keep this a discussion please. Try to change my point of view with facts. I am open. Been wrong before.

Danny33486

I live a couple blocks from the beach. Sometimes depending on tires and current the high tide line is 90% plastic. Straws, bottles, caps, jars, buckets it's disgusting. It's not all from here it's from all over the world.

LWLoadie

I have lived in S. Florida my whole life and have spent a LOT of time of the beaches and the garbage is getting worse. The amount of non-biodegradable plastic is disgusting. My wife and I regularly walk the beach and fill up bags of this junk each time. Straws are one of the big ones around here along with plastic bottle caps and just small pieces of plastic in general.

DoughnutToo

If you haven't seen the trash on the beach, it is because people actually try to clean it up. If you need an example, just go to a walmart parking lot. Why walmart? Because a majority of trash go their to shop. They toss their McD's bags or Wendy's or Polarpop cups onto the pavement beside their car as they leave. Don't want trash in their car! God forbid they walk 15 feet to the one of the many damn trash cans in the lot. Walmart employees do not clean this crap up, they pay a service to do it during the night/morning hours. Same for the beach.

I'm not holding a sign for NO STRAWS! here, just pointing out trash is trash from trash. And if I offended you or one of your family members, IDGAF.

SeaCat22

fijon

so some random sea turtle has a coke problem and we take it out on straws??/????

Jim henscheli

glvilm

Anecdotal evidence is not necessarily truth. That's science 101. I've never seen a Great White. But that doesn't mean they don't exist.

We, as a society throw too much shit away and generally treat our world like crap. I'm ok with not having a straw now and then. Little things add up.