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Old 07-08-2018, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by RussH View Post
It's all on 2 lane country type roads, be at the steel plant to load @ 4:30a every week day. Run the 190 miles round trip back to the steel plant, drop the trailer and hook up to a trailer that is already loaded with the steel coils. When I'm done with the 2nd trip it's the end of my day,
Mighty nice of him to let you call it a day after only 10+ hours at work!
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Old 07-08-2018, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Milehog View Post
Double clutching, IMO, is a throwback to the days of non-synchro transmissions. Even then it was often a crutch for not being able to time your shifts.
As others have said there is usually no need to engage the clutch when shifting a truck transmission.
The large truck transmissions don't have synchro's due to the mass of the gears. You can still double clutch those transmissions. Try it in any small truck or car. Let's say if you are in 3rd at 2800 RPM and 4th would be 2400 RPM at the speed you are going, let off the gas and take it out of 3rd and drop it onto 4th at 2400. Your RPM might be different between the gears. Timing is important. So is the RPM spread between gears. You can also down shift. If you're at 2400 in 4th, take it out of gear, rev it to 2800 or even higher, and slip it into 3rd at 2800. It takes practice and you don't want to force the shift.

I had a Volkswagen Jetta and one time was more than 5 miles from home at night on back roads. So a lot less traffic. A lever in the clutch broke while I was still rolling. I thought out the route I should take to get home and made it home shifting without using the clutch. Of course without stopping. I slowed at traffic lights and timed them, I think there were only two, maybe three, and rolled through stop signs.
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Old 07-08-2018, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by RussH View Post
I have no idea why you would say shifting will be a problem for me. That is the least of my worries.

Tarping a load isn't a big deal, I don't even know if the coils need to be tarped but if they do there are several people in the steel plant that are there to help the drivers.
let me know how that works out for you. It's a whole diff ball game going from a stick shift auto to a 10-13 or even a 18 speed Eaton
Better hope you don't get a super 10 tranny
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Old 07-08-2018, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Turtle9343 View Post

Ha. Check back in with us after you start training. Shifting gears in a truck is nothing like doing it in a car. Experience with a six speed transmission will be of zero help.

Would love to be there when he gets behind the wheel. Could use a good laugh just because he thinks it's like shifting in a car.
Couldn't you see him starting out on a hill then trying to make a shift thinking it was like a six speed
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Old 07-08-2018, 04:44 PM
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Double clutching..

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Old 07-08-2018, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Sully4755 View Post
Thalasso, I am in New York and to haul steel coils you have to have a coil endorsement to do so .Depending on what you are hauling we have doubles and triples endorsement, Haz Mat endorsement, Tanker endorsement coil endorsement. Maybe it is just a New York thing for the coil but I believe the CDL is a federal license. I have been driving tractor trailers for 39 years the last 32 for a freight company. Retired from there April 2017
I am a little versed in the requirements. Just a little though.
I used to pull double 45's over your TP.
The coil endorsement is a state thing not federal. I think Alabama is the same as NY
If i were to haul coils into NY from out of state i don't need that endorsement
Now when you haul into Canada the rules change dramaticaly
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Originally Posted by Boataholic View Post
Interesting in the shift video that you don't need to clutch except fo starting out. I never knew that.


You just need to hit the RPM'S right or your going to be looking for another gear before you stop and start over. If you hit the RPM's right you can up or down shift with out the clutch
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I would like to see the ones who could drive the super 10's
You can forget where your at in the shift pattern really easy. Defiantly my tranny of choice

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I got my cdl for the construction co I was working for and read the books , got my learners and when one of my co-workers showed me how to drive a tractor I jumped in and ask " so you double clutch there beasts ? " and he said " No Stupid "
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Originally Posted by Thalasso View Post
Would love to be there when he gets behind the wheel. Could use a good laugh just because he thinks it's like shifting in a car.
Couldn't you see him starting out on a hill then trying to make a shift thinking it was like a six speed
You expert tractor drivers explain this to me: I travel from IN to TN a few times a month. I am sick and tired of tractor drivers on I-75S trying to pass each other at 65 mph and tying up the left lane for us drivers that are willing to speed to avoid you and your chaos. Walmart and fedex drivers are the worst. Do the PowerPoints in new-hire orientation not explain governors?
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Russ.
Not trying to discourage you. Go for it. Just trying to let you know it isn't like driving a car around and through traffic
If you Don't like it at least you gave it a shot but it's not for everyone by a long shot.
Many on here are encouraging you for one reason or the other but i would be curious as how many have driven truck of this size.

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Originally Posted by jhcobb View Post


You expert tractor drivers explain this to me: I travel from IN to TN a few times a month. I am sick and tired of tractor drivers on I-75S trying to pass each other at 65 mph and tying up the left lane for us drivers that are willing to speed to avoid you and your chaos. Walmart and fedex drivers are the worst. Do the PowerPoints in new-hire orientation not explain governors?
A friend of mine works for a large carrier and he told me different companies have different gov speeds and they all know what they are so when Wallmart comes up behind Ups (I'm making co up) Wallmart knows his gov is 1 or 2 mph faster so he waits for a break in traffic then takes a mile or so to make the pass with 1 mph more speed .
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Glad to hear it bro! Do you have any idea what might make a CDL operator block up the left lane like that? I see it every day. Typically they are ratty looking trucks with a paper sign on the door pulling container boxes out of Port Everglades. Always doing 20 under the traffic speed with cars going nuts trying to get around them. Half the time when you pass they are either texting or talking on the phone. On the other hand the best drivers I see are the tanker guys. They stay over to the right and always stay with the traffic speed.
Pretty hefty fine if the man catches them holding the phone or texting. It's about $1200 for the driver and $13,000 for the company.

Russ, if he has a truck with a 5x4 jump on it.
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Originally Posted by edwardh1 View Post
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Also so ask about health insurance and if you will be paid via a W-2. You'll need to make sure you get one so you don't have the tax man looking for you in a year.

what does that mean
I have all of those details about pay, health insurance, disability, liability coverages, etc. It's not an under the table pay kind of thing, it's W2 with taxes and 401K deductions.
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Originally Posted by Thalasso View Post
Russ.
Not trying to discourage you. Go for it. Just trying to let you know it isn't like driving a car around and through traffic
If you Don't like it at least you gave it a shot but it's not for everyone by a long shot.
Many on here are encouraging you for one reason or the other but i would be curious as how many have driven truck of this size.

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It sure sounded like you were being a Debbie Downer......I know that shifting a truck isn't the same as a car, that's obvious. I know how to use a clutch and I know when to shift gears so in my mind that is half of the battle -vs- someone that has never driven a manual transmission. My first motorcycle had an automatic and when I went with a bigger bike it had a clutch. It took me about 2 minutes how to drive with a clutch, some people just catch on to stuff like this much quicker than others. Lets hope learning how to drive an 18 speed transmission will come easy to me too.
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hauling heavy coils is one thing, driving an empty flat bed back to the shop is another, especially in wet or slick/icy conditions. Having a load on a flat bed, is a blessing.
Swinging beef and unbaffled tankers are things of the past, but hauling coil steel ranks right up there with them in the pucker factor. Have your stuff together at all times.
Always double check anyone's rigging work if they secure trailer, and double check yourself also. A wise man checks his truck and trailer several times a day.
After 20+ years of otr, cell phones helped me make a career change, in that I'm not constantly worried about running over someone as they talk or text while behind the wheel.
the road is a dangerous work environment.
Blessings for your safety.
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Old 07-08-2018, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Brezinup View Post
The large truck transmissions don't have synchro's due to the mass of the gears...
Modern manual truck transmissions do have synchro-mesh or constant mesh systems.
The old 4X4, 5X3, 5X4, 6X4 etc. transmissions were non synchro and thankfully are off the market.
You will notice in the videos of double clutching they are using the procedure for timing the shift. No need for that after you have learned to drive a manual truck transmission.
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Originally Posted by Thalasso View Post
Better hope you don't get a super 10 tranny
He's doomed if he gets a tranny that can hula hoop. He'll never notice the adam's apple
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Pretty hefty fine if the man catches them holding the phone or texting. It's about $1200 for the driver and $13,000 for the company.

Russ, if he has a truck with a 5x4 jump on it.
I had a blowout on i 595 next to the airport. It's an elevated portion and the stop lane is barely a car width wide. I sat in my truck watching the truckers coming out of the port behind me. Half the drivers were completely distracted primarily texting with them well over the white line into my lane. They would spot my at the last moment and swerve to miss me. Several barely turned and cut razor close and one clipped my side mirror. It was frightening. The only ones that cut out to give some room were the tankers. The rat trucks should be taken off the road IMO.
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Go for it Russ, you'll do fine. It won't take you but a trip or two and you will be good at it. Don't look back in a few years and say " I wish I had..." There are only a few things that can't be taken from you, hopes, dreams, education, and experience are most of them. Do it and don't look back, it may even open a door you can't see right now.
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