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Old 07-01-2018, 07:11 PM
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Just tell him, Sir, with all respect I will be the first one to have your back if you are having an issue on a dark road but I did not purposely evade your license check point. I am sorry you feel I did. I am not trying to be rude but unless I am legally detained or I am under arrest for something , I have work to do..Have a safe night and be careful..
Probably should have been more direct with him. Fairly certain he was confused why I kept smoking my cigar, sipping my beer, and reading a random paper with Bennett on it.
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Old 07-01-2018, 07:16 PM
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Just tell him, Sir, with all respect I will be the first one to have your back if you are having an issue on a dark road but I did not purposely evade your license check point. I am sorry you feel I did. I am not trying to be rude but unless I am legally detained or I am under arrest for something , I have work to do..Have a safe night and be careful..
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Old 07-01-2018, 07:19 PM
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I gotta say, checkpoints are total bullshit. I've never worked one and I never will. You were 100% in the right autobaun. Yeah, yeah....I get what was going on, I just can't play that game. One of the many reasons I need to retire I guess. I hate seeing good people getting their balls busted.
I agree 100%, The average Joe does not really want to give rank and file, hard working Cops a hard time for what their asshole superiors come up with. I am a true believer that any and all of these so called random stops are BULLSHIT. Can anyone blame the general public for the backlash?
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Old 07-01-2018, 07:21 PM
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Free country copper! bye bye now... and went inside would have been my reaction. Right after I laughed when he said I was supposed to go through his road block.
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Old 07-01-2018, 07:22 PM
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You have a lot of patience. I'd have had a brief, civil conversation with the officer then ended it.
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Old 07-01-2018, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Hooper View Post
I gotta say, checkpoints are total bullshit. I've never worked one and I never will. You were 100% in the right autobaun. Yeah, yeah....I get what was going on, I just can't play that game. One of the many reasons I need to retire I guess. I hate seeing good people getting their balls busted.
I am with Hooper..
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I don’t know the OP sounds shady to me
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Old 07-01-2018, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Milehog View Post
You have a lot of patience. I'd have had a brief, civil conversation with the officer then ended it.
How do you go about ending it, without getting "marked" for being an anti cop a-hole? I am not one. I very much appreciate the crap they go through every day. I just have no tolerance for them being used as revenue generating pawns, and going on power trips. My truck isn't crazy unique, but there aren't a whole lot like it with a camper shell on them around here. I have no desire to get pulled every time I forgot to signal a lane change early just because they are mad at me for "disrespecting them."
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Old 07-01-2018, 07:34 PM
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Proper response in my state is "do you have a warrant to be on my property, and if not GTFO."
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
Code for DUI/Seatbelt/Warranty checkpoint. BS Should be illegal.
Yes...it should be but the SCOTUS has screwed Americans on this issue years ago.
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Old 07-01-2018, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
How do you go about ending it, without getting "marked" for being an anti cop a-hole? I am not one. I very much appreciate the crap they go through every day. I just have no tolerance for them being used as revenue generating pawns, and going on power trips. My truck isn't crazy unique, but there aren't a whole lot like it with a camper shell on them around here. I have no desire to get pulled every time I forgot to signal a lane change early just because they are mad at me for "disrespecting them."
I think you speak for lots and lots of Americans with that statement.
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Old 07-01-2018, 07:40 PM
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Got home mid afternoon today from the lake. Coming down the main road that feeds my subdivision. There are two entrances, one front, and one back. I live near the back entrance. As I came down the road, I could see a license check up ahead near the front entrance, which is not an uncommon thing at all. The road that leads to the back entrance, which I take every day, is about 300 - 400 yards from the license check. As I normally do, I took it, and went home. Went inside, checked on cats (anyone need a free cat), came back outside and grabbed a beer out of the fridge. Then hopped up into the boat to finishing wiring up my new trim tabs. About the time I got good and crammed inside the console to do the wiring, I hear a car pull up in the driveway. It was one of the license check guys. He starts in on why I "avoided" their license check. As it works out, where I turned was outside of his jurisdiction......the intersection at the front entrance to our subdivision is the cutoff, so they can't post a second LEO on the side road coming in the back, but are evidently allowed to investigate anyone that turns off. I explain that I took my normal route, and live here. He proceeds to "inform me" that I should have gone the long way, so that I could go through the license check. I direct him to my visor where my registration is, and offer my license as proof that I live there. He continues to hark on why I didn't just go through the license check.....and then questioned how much I had been drinking. I politely let him know that I just got home, grabbed a beer, and was working on my boat. He didn't take that much further, but kept harking on and on and on about how I was inconveniencing him and their licence check by "avoiding" it. Just me, but that pisses me off. # 1, its a BS little town that somehow has managed to annex roads outside of their city limits, and # 2, I don't need any speeches regarding me following the law....when I haven't broken the law.

For clarity, this is the layout of how I got to the house.

One of the reasons I despise the police.
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Old 07-01-2018, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
How do you go about ending it, without getting "marked" for being an anti cop a-hole? I am not one. I very much appreciate the crap they go through every day. I just have no tolerance for them being used as revenue generating pawns, and going on power trips. My truck isn't crazy unique, but there aren't a whole lot like it with a camper shell on them around here. I have no desire to get pulled every time I forgot to signal a lane change early just because they are mad at me for "disrespecting them."
Several ways to end it depending on the officers attitude. "Officer, I am on private property minding my own business, have a nice day."
I have a mirror policy. Respect me and receive the same back. Hard ass me and I'll cut you off.

Don't fret about being marked for disrespecting them, they have much bigger fish to fry. Just don't give 'em a reason to pull you over.
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Originally Posted by Milehog View Post
Several ways to end it depending on the officers attitude. "Officer, I am on private property minding my own business, have a nice day."
I have a mirror policy. Respect me and receive the same back. Hard ass me and I'll cut you off.

Don't fret about being marked for disrespecting them, they have much bigger fish to fry. Just don't give 'em a reason to pull you over.
To counter that, when you realize that the citizen in question is not in the wrong, to you take things any further, or immediately leave? If you don't immediately leave, why not?
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What is a "license check"? In Texas, we have DUI checkpoints, and immigration checkpoints, but not "license checkpoints". Are these intended to check the license plates on your vehicle, or your drivers license? (or both?)
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Originally Posted by Uncle Zeek View Post
What is a "license check"? In Texas, we have DUI checkpoints, and immigration checkpoints, but not "license checkpoints". Are these intended to check the license plates on your vehicle, or your drivers license? (or both?)
Both, plus seat belt usage, plus look for DUI's, warrants, etc. BS reason to ask for papers IMO. DUI is the main reason IMO, and why they are prevalent around holidays.
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
Both, plus seat belt usage, plus look for DUI's, warrants, etc. BS reason to ask for papers IMO. DUI is the main reason IMO, and why they are prevalent around holidays.

Interesting, thanks. I didn't realize that those still happen after various SCOTUS decisions. After I take the bar exam in July, I'll give a long rant about why that kind of checkpoint is unconstitutional.
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In my opinion, check points are unconstitutional. Some states allow them, though. Up here they also happen to be against our state's constitution, so wouldn't reach federal level in a fight. I also think it's lazy. I do wonder if some of the officer's spiel was just coming out of his mouth until he determined that your story fit and you belonged there?
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Interesting, thanks. I didn't realize that those still happen after various SCOTUS decisions. After I take the bar exam in July, I'll give a long rant about why that kind of checkpoint is unconstitutional.
Evidently they still require "public notice" via the media. "Public Notice" looks something like the following....

"The XYZ PD will be conducting licence checks/traffic safety checkpoints throughout XYZ County on during the day and evening of July 4'th." Most of the time they are found in the legal announcements section of the most obscure newspaper in town.
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
How do you go about ending it, without getting "marked" for being an anti cop a-hole? I am not one. I very much appreciate the crap they go through every day. I just have no tolerance for them being used as revenue generating pawns, and going on power trips. My truck isn't crazy unique, but there aren't a whole lot like it with a camper shell on them around here. I have no desire to get pulled every time I forgot to signal a lane change early just because they are mad at me for "disrespecting them."
Something like:
Officer, I realize you may not like to be posted to man the stops any more than the civilians like going through them.
Why don't you stop by after your shift, have a beer ?

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