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Old 06-21-2018, 09:45 AM
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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/21/supr...sales-tax.html
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Bezos is gonna love this...not!
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GLAD THEY DID IT!!!

How can it be fair for in state retailers, especially in a non-income tax/high sales tax state like TN, to compete against out of state retailers who aren't required to pay those same sales taxes?

Our budgets HAVE to be funded, I hate taxes more than anyone BUT if our local dumbasses in Nashvegas don't get the money from sales tax then they will be proposing income taxes and THEN we are SCREWED!!! Sales taxes are THE MOST FAIR, taxing consumption instead of income & savings/investment is the most fair and truly EQUAL taxation because EVERYONE pays it!

Welcome to TN, glad you are doing business here. Play fair, obey the rules and may the best company win!

Screw Bezos, that bald bastard is to big for his britches anyway.
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Sucks for consumers, but it levels the playing field a bit for retailers.
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I don't mind in terms of having to pay sales tax. I will mind if the states pass stupid "every last cent" laws and make it impossible for small merchants to keep track of all this. The SD law that prompted the suit appeared sane, exempting business doing less than $100K in the state. But with 50 states, I'll bet a number of them will do the insane, including the one I live in.
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Originally Posted by Wolakrab View Post
Bezos is gonna love this...not!
Actually it is good for Amazon as the smaller internet retailers will not have the ability to keep up with all of the different sales tax rates and exclusions.
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Amazon, as a merchant, has been collecting tax for years. The only way they can deliver so quickly is with a warehouse in every state. Those warehouses triggered the collection.

My complaints:

This will be overly burdensome for small retailers.

This is a new law when existing laws already require us (most of us) to pay the state when we purchase something without paying tax. I understand next to no one did, but the laws were there. I tend to not like new laws, especially when enforcement of existing laws would/could change things.

Edit: I understand this is not really a new law, but fully expect new laws to follow the ruling.

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Originally Posted by finatic1 View Post

Actually it is good for Amazon as the smaller internet retailers will not have the ability to keep up with all of the different sales tax rates and exclusions.
That's right. Amazon has already been collecting and paying sales tax in almost every state, but not for their 3-party vendors. They want to provide tax collection services to smaller vendors. Bezos must be ecstatic about this ruling.

https://www.amiba.net/amazon-nexus-subsidiaries/
we also suspect Amazon aims to become a/the major provider of sales tax administration services to small businesses. The lower the threshold and the larger the number of small businesses forced to collect sales tax, the greater Amazon’s potential new profit channel.


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Sounds like who ever has a business tracking this for businesses is going to see a huge up,tick in business
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It's fine with me.
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it was only a matter of time.... I believe we had a long heated thread about this a few years ago....
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Explain, exactly what "level the playing field" means as it pertains to this? Are we comparing costs? Are we comparing who benefits from the funds?

...or do we just like the "screw the online merchant" position because "anything that is bad for the competition must be good for me" mentality?

In the big picture, this sucks. Remember, if a B&M store decides they want to sell online... they have to pay it now too... but... wait... we're lowering the "playing field"... right? LOL

Silly. More tax is never good.
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This ain’t helping anyone but the Govt’s.
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Originally Posted by Wolakrab View Post
Bezos is gonna love this...not!
Actually he will love it. Amazon already collects a lot of sales tax, whereas some of his competitors (Wayfair, etc) do not.This will do absolutely nothing to level the playing field.

I urge you to read "The Four - the hidden DNA of Apple, Amazon, Facebook, and Google" by Scott Galloway.
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Originally Posted by Paul Barnard View Post
It's fine with me.
Because you like the idea of paying additional taxes? Or because it hurts small online retailers like the guy selling 100 handmade belts a year or a small custom tackle shop?
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Originally Posted by jobowker View Post
Actually he will love it. Amazon already collects a lot of sales tax, whereas some of his competitors (Wayfair, etc) do not.This will do absolutely nothing to level the playing field.

I urge you to read "The Four - the hidden DNA of Apple, Amazon, Facebook, and Google" by Scott Galloway.
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Because you like the idea of paying additional taxes? Or because it hurts small online retailers like the guy selling 100 handmade belts a year or a small custom tackle shop?
Yup. Makes you really scratch your head when somebody says, "Yay! More taxes!" Let's "Stick it to 'em" - stupids... they don't know that THEY are the ones paying it. LOL.
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Originally Posted by triplenet View Post
it was only a matter of time.... I believe we had a long heated thread about this a few years ago....
I had my ass burned by the Florida sales tax people for buying stuff online and NOT paying sales tax. $70 purchase, with all the penalties, wa probably $100. it's OBVIOUS that this was coming.
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Because you like the idea of paying additional taxes? Or because it hurts small online retailers like the guy selling 100 handmade belts a year or a small custom tackle shop?
because scotus gets paid to review constitutionality, which they did.

Beyond that it isn’t really much of a commerce problem.
I been paying sales tax all my life.
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So,how many think that states will curtail the other bullshit taxes now that they’ll be getting this cash cow?I promise, Washington state liberals will just see more opportunities to increase govt spending on lazy people.
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Originally Posted by wdlfbio View Post
So,how many think that states will curtail the other bullshit taxes now that they’ll be getting this cash cow?I promise, Washington state liberals will just see more opportunities to increase govt spending on lazy people.
not one penny...

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