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Old 06-18-2018, 09:56 AM
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If the you plan on keeping the car past the free maintenance period, strongly consider Not getting a diesel. The better MPG if diesel is more than offset by the $200 oil changes and cost of DEF fluid at $24/gal
as well as very few options for independent service providers.
the towing capacity is too low to require a diesel.
Unfortunately, the USA is the one country where it is more expensive to drive diesel cars. Larger pickups and trucks which do not need exhaust fluid are a better deal.
Old 06-18-2018, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by PSW View Post
Starting to make me feel like getting a RR Sport with the same engine is a better move. Tires are standard all season. Oil changes are expensive but not horrible. And I bought the OEM brakes off Amazon and assisted a retired mechanic friend while he did them in his shop.

Can BMW's really be more expensive and complicated than a Range Rover?
If range rover is good for you BMW will be great !
Old 06-18-2018, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Fish_Hunt View Post
If the you plan on keeping the car past the free maintenance period, strongly consider Not getting a diesel. The better MPG if diesel is more than offset by the $200 oil changes and cost of DEF fluid at $24/gal
Never mind the initial cost of entry and diesel fuel on average being 20% more expensive. If you want a diesel just for the sake of wanting a diesel fine but there is no economic upside.

Several family members and friends have had BMW's and same as owners on this thread have reported...once the honeymoon period was over it was non stop expensive trips to the dealer.
Old 06-18-2018, 09:28 PM
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Appreciate all the input guys. It is giving me some valuable perspective. The two BMW dealers are both less than ideal from a proximity perspective and how they operate so that is a big negative for me at this point if the cars are more than just brakes and oil changes. My Land Rover experience has been great but not sure I want a Sport in addition to my RR. She still likes the BMW so I told her to go sit in one and see if this is even something we need to talk about any further. I enjoy working on the boat and all the projects it brings but have zero desire to make maintaining a car a lifestyle. I want a luxury vehicle that is straight forward with no surprises and if they do happen I have a dealer that is nearby and I feel comfortable with. I had that with Lexus and currently have that with Land Rover.

Appreciate all the input and will see where this goes.
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Originally Posted by PSW View Post
I want a luxury vehicle that is straight forward with no surprises and if they do happen I have a dealer that is nearby and I feel comfortable with.
Smart man My wife has a 2018 Lexus F Sport and it has been just that, totally seamless to own and operate. I personally maintain everything in my household and the idea of having to drive 45 minutes to the "local" BMW dealer and wait half a day for an oil change gives me a bad case of the red ass.
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Will throw in my .02 . The poster who said to find a good independent guy for service work is dead on . I got a 3 series xdrive almost a year ago . So far it is by far the most enjoyable car I have had . I have driven a lot of SUV's and trucks but have had a few cool cars as well and this is definitely the most enjoyable driving experience . I told my wife the other day I smile just about every time I drive it . As to your question about lease or purchase 2-3 years old I have never leased a car so no help there but I bought my car 3 years old with 46k on the clock and literally paid half of sticker price . I took the money that a extended warranty would have cost and put it in the "fix the car" account . So far at 63k on the clock zero issues . I will admit it makes me nervous hearing all the horror stories but hell ... you only live once and I wanted a fun car that was in my budget that could haul my 3 kids if or when needed but would mostly be my "fun car" . After warranty ran out I put a dinan sport tune on it and woke it up a bit and now it is even more fun . Assuming no nightmare repair experiences my next ride will be a 4 series coupe . My advice would be buy your lovely fiancé whatever the heck she wants . Great pic by the way
Old 06-19-2018, 09:23 PM
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It is with a sigh of relief that I can say the X5 is no longer up for consideration. We were talking last night and after thinking over some of the comments on this thread I told her I wasn't super excited about taking on the headache of a BMW and having to learn the ins and outs of a temperamental brand. It isn't a lifestyle for me making the car perfect and I much prefer to tinker with boats. She naturally was still interested so today I texted her and said let's go look at one tonight after work and right after let's take a look at a Q7. From there we can have some dialogue and see where it goes. We spent about 20 min looking over the X5 and while she thought it was ok she couldn't justify moving up from her Grand Cherokee that is 2 years old and has been great to her. I only asked one question and that was regarding run flats and he said all of them are equipped with them other then the M series with the V8. No thanks. Once I saw that she was not overwhelmed with the vehicle I did something I don't often do. I said nothing. I didn't want to change the direction the current was going. Next we looked at the Q7 and while she liked it more than the BMW she for now she would be happier with her car. Once again I simply agreed and told her whenever she decides she wants to make a move is cool with me but the longer she can love her GC the better off she will be.

Thanks for all the experiences shared and opinions.
Old 06-20-2018, 06:00 AM
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Living in Florida, I have no need for a car which handles well. All our roads are straight and flat. As much of a gearhead as I am, I gotta admit Toyotas are looking better and better.
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Coworker has a 550i leaking oil all over the place. Looks brand new, kids keep telling him his car is "peeing on the driveway." He laughs it off. Seals were replaced at a cost of $4700 and the leaking is back after about a year. His battery died, had it replaced at autozone and car went ape shit. Had to spend $600 for BMW to put in a special BMW battery whatever that means. It currently shoots white smoke out the exhaust at every red light, looked it up for him looks to be a valve issue that every 5 series + 7 series experiences past 60k miles.

Gf has a 335IS. Its been in the shop at least 14-15 times. AC took a shit at 30k miles and cost close to 5k to fix, thank god it was warranty. The rear kept sagging on one side, they ended redoing the suspension. Fuel injectors had to be replaced. AC died for a second time at 50k miles. Road noise was ridiculous, replaced seals on passenger door. Rear window weather stripping is now gone. Headlight went out, warranty repair. Those are the ones I can think off the top of my head.
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Originally Posted by SlowStang305 View Post
Coworker has a 550i leaking oil all over the place. Looks brand new, kids keep telling him his car is "peeing on the driveway." He laughs it off. Seals were replaced at a cost of $4700 and the leaking is back after about a year. His battery died, had it replaced at autozone and car went ape shit. Had to spend $600 for BMW to put in a special BMW battery whatever that means. It currently shoots white smoke out the exhaust at every red light, looked it up for him looks to be a valve issue that every 5 series + 7 series experiences past 60k miles.

Gf has a 335IS. Its been in the shop at least 14-15 times. AC took a shit at 30k miles and cost close to 5k to fix, thank god it was warranty. The rear kept sagging on one side, they ended redoing the suspension. Fuel injectors had to be replaced. AC died for a second time at 50k miles. Road noise was ridiculous, replaced seals on passenger door. Rear window weather stripping is now gone. Headlight went out, warranty repair. Those are the ones I can think off the top of my head.

sounds like the ultimate driving experience.

Keep getting bent over. Spend money on junk.
Old 06-22-2018, 08:54 AM
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get rid of it before the warranty runs out! a BMW repair outside of warranty is $$$$$$

alot of stupid little parts are dealer items only! which means you take it in the rear with out the complimentary lube and reach around
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Originally Posted by captain28570 View Post



sounds like the ultimate driving experience.

Keep getting bent over. Spend money on junk.
Wanted to add, now her hazards randomly come on when they want. Car has less than 60k miles at this point.

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