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Old 06-12-2018, 04:25 PM
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Greetings all. Here is the story....


This would be my first post to the forum and as the title states, I just got fired!. Now,.... I would consider myself a novice at boating.


I got a great summer gig tagging along behind a yacht with various jet ski's and pwc that the captain then rents to the charter clients at an additional fee. I also will run errands if he forgets something or if the guests request something.


We were booked for 25 guests and set out for 12 hours. The client asked if he could bring additional people aboard. An up-charge was decided upon and all was good. The captain didn't want to head back through the locks, so told me to pick up the additional passengers one at a time using the ski's. For whatever reason( probably not good ones) the captain told me I was to charge the folks at the harbor $100 for the 30 minute trip through the lock's and to the yacht. That money I was to keep. I said I cant do that because I would then be a chartered boat and Im not a USCG cert captain. Not even close. An argument ensued, the client then offed to pay me directly twice the amount. I didn't think that was a good idea either and......


I got fired on the spot.


So, while I get the whole.. just do it.. thing, I have to ask, was I wrong and wrongfully dismissed, or was I technically wright.


To wrap up the whole story, the captain brought the boat back into harbor, picked up the additional passengers and booted me off. *sigh *
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What state did this occur in? Were you an "at will" employee?
It *sounds* like you were wrongfully terminated, but there is also most likely almost no chance you can reasonably do anything about it from a legal standpoint. They could say you were fired for "poor attitude in front of customers", or any other generic thing.

You were probably right to refuse to take passengers for hire in that manner, but that doesn't mean you were "right".
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You were rightful fired for not listening to your boss.
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Got to be more to it

" sure cap I will do it, but I will give the money to the boat, because I am not a licensed chater" won't get you fired

" I am not doing it because I am not a licensed charter" gets you the boot, rightfully so
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Life lesson . Consequences vs reward . Riding folks on a jet ski doesn't seem like a big deal - assuming your young I would have shut my mouth and done it especially when offered double and acted dumb if caught .

Flip side a buddy was ticketed by FWC while fishing for Pompano - they all were putting their catch in same cooler and FWC felt he had over the limit , this FWC officer had screwed with them before . The fine was small but he fought it with a lawyer and won . Flash forward a decade when he went to become a Charter guide he didn't have that on his record .

Sounded like an awesome summer job .
Have fun flipping burgers
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Wow! What a great first post. I bet we’ll never hear from this clown again.

Sounds to to me like he got fired because he didn’t obey his boss. Maybe he’ll follow directions at his next job.
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I get the whole you didn't listen to your boss thing. I guess an employer can ask you to commit a crime and it's up to you decide what to do, but my main question really is, was I right. Would I have been a considered a charter vessel to ferry the folks and and as such I think I need to be certified as a captain, no?
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So you got fired for refusing to take money that was all going to go to you.

Something doesn't add up.
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Originally Posted by TakeAbreak View Post
I get the whole you didn't listen to your boss thing. I guess an employer can ask you to commit a crime and it's up to you decide what to do, but my main question really is, was I right. Would I have been a considered a charter vessel to ferry the folks and and as such I think I need to be certified as a captain, no?
yes you would have illegally operated without the proper license.......you legally are not for hire, if YOU take the money.....had the money been paid to the capt then the capt paid you, all would be good.
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If an employer requires you to break the law or get fired, you have quite a case. If you got fired for a crap attitude , it’s on you.
Of the story goes as you say then it’s best to simply move on. If you feel you are emotionally so distraught that you can never work again, then contact the law office of Dewey, Cheatem, and How.
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Respectfully, you should have been fired for displaying a lack of common sense. It's jet skis...not a charter vessel. Sure, maybe the law says otherwise...but...I just...come on man.

1. Shuttle people
2. ?
3. Profit

Simple as that. It's like the goobers I deal with at work who won't break a process and have no explanation other than "that's just our process". Yeah well we are trying to get something done so nut up and do it or we can all just quit producing anything and just go home without jobs.

Again...respectfully. I get where you're coming from, and if you dig down into the details I absolutely think you were right...technically. But sometimes you just have to git er done. Process be damned.
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No,. I was technically fired for not doing what what I was asked by my employer. What's odd is he didn't want to take any money for the ferry and I, not him, had to charge it at the dock. Honestly, I probably would have done it if he just said go get the folks. It was am odd situation.

So far from what I'm reading in response is that it's perfectly legal for me to pick up and ferry passengers on a jet ski as long as my employer directs me to do so? So would the CPMU or USCG unit 600 feet from my pick up point ticket the employer?

Wow, had I known I was absolved of all responsibility , I would have made some good money. Bummer
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Originally Posted by TakeAbreak View Post
I get the whole you didn't listen to your boss thing. I guess an employer can ask you to commit a crime and it's up to you decide what to do, but my main question really is, was I right. Would I have been a considered a charter vessel to ferry the folks and and as such I think I need to be certified as a captain, no?
You can’t carry folks for hire without a ticket and type 1 PFDs etc.
So you stood your ground, great, but lost your job.
Be mean and tell the USCG about it, they may come down on the Captain
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I'm not mad at the guy. It's his business. Nobody was yelling or anything actually. I was just curious if I was right. I'm walking over to the auxiliary tomorrow to get a real answer. If not, maybe I'll start my own ferry business and finish out the summer self employed.
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You lacked common sense
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Originally Posted by bluffman2 View Post
yes you would have illegally operated without the proper license.......you legally are not for hire, if YOU take the money.....had the money been paid to the capt then the capt paid you, all would be good.
Odd to read something in this thread that makes sense.
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Don't know your age but I'd have done the wrong thing in my youth and pocketed a whole bunch of cash for bring them on board.
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Pick up passenger. Take money. Give to your employer. Get paid from your employer. Keep job.

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