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Old 06-14-2018, 07:52 PM
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I'd say 15 hours a year since overhaul could be a bigger problem....
your probably right
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Should have flown this trip

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Crapola.
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Should have flown this trip

https://youtu.be/wj8UPEfO1Oo
So that was the guy who you traded shifts with?
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So that was the guy who you traded shifts with?
Yup, poor guy lost an engine right at V1 with rain and bad braking action.
I was in the Bahamas on my boat with bikini wife and sipping rum. (Sorry, no picture of wifey)
Could have been me. (All 3 guys got fired and lost their licenses)
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Originally Posted by csy man View Post


Yup, poor guy lost an engine right at V1 with rain and bad braking action.
I was in the Bahamas on my boat with bikini wife and sipping rum. (Sorry, no picture of wifey)
Could have been me. (All 3 guys got fired and lost their licenses)
Why did they get fired & lose licenses?
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Originally Posted by crazybeard View Post
Why did they get fired & lose licenses?
Long story, wrong decisions, wrong performance calculations. Everybody was tired, long night, 20 hour duty day.
Throw the crew under the bus, makes the FAA happy, nothing on CNN, old cargo plane, who cares.?
Could have been me in the left seat.
Better lucky than good
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Originally Posted by csy man View Post


Long story, wrong decisions, wrong performance calculations. Everybody was tired, long night, 20 hour duty day.
Throw the crew under the bus, makes the FAA happy, nothing on CNN, old cargo plane, who cares.?
Could have been me in the left seat.
Better lucky than good
Cause ya, you can make AI like decisions in split seconds. At best maybe 3-4 sec to digest, have some brief thoughts and react. Crappy outcome.
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Originally Posted by csy man View Post


Yup, poor guy lost an engine right at V1 with rain and bad braking action.
I was in the Bahamas on my boat with bikini wife and sipping rum. (Sorry, no picture of wifey)
Could have been me. (All 3 guys got fired and lost their licenses)
Wow that sucks. Airline pilot is a lot like being a police officer, one poor decision can cost you a lifetime of efforts and you may wind up stocking shelves on the overnight shift at Pigly Wigly.
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Originally Posted by crazybeard View Post
Cause ya, you can make AI like decisions in split seconds. At best maybe 3-4 sec to digest, have some brief thoughts and react. Crappy outcome.
Actually they probably never should have taken off due to conditions and runway length. If they can't lose an engine at V1 and stop it on the runway then they did not have what's called "balanced field length"

Many companies would not allow this plane to leave the ramp.
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csy man, I just realized I worked with some of your folks last year down in Puerto Rico and St. Croix after the hurricanes. We had one of your mechanics (Bryan) there that was absolutely amazing. He told me the story of the crash!
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csy man, I just realized I worked with some of your folks last year down in Puerto Rico and St. Croix after the hurricanes. We had one of your mechanics (Bryan) there that was absolutely amazing. He told me the story of the crash!

small world
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Originally Posted by k9medic View Post
csy man, I just realized I worked with some of your folks last year down in Puerto Rico and St. Croix after the hurricanes. We had one of your mechanics (Bryan) there that was absolutely amazing. He told me the story of the crash!
Yup, small world.
I had to sail back from the Bahamas after the crash and fly another plane down there with mechanics and tools.
They salvaged what they could, engines, instruments, bits and pieces, then loaded all that on my plane. (It took 3 days, my crew and I in a nice hotel
sipping margaritas in the meantime)
Perhaps Bryan was one of those mechanics?

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Byan is a big, tattooed, bearded guy. Looks like he could rip a door off the hinges.
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Originally Posted by k9medic View Post
Byan is a big, tattooed, bearded guy. Looks like he could rip a door off the hinges.

was he the boucer that threw Ron White out into PUB LIK drunk?
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Originally Posted by Hooper View Post


Wow that sucks. Airline pilot is a lot like being a police officer, one poor decision can cost you a lifetime of efforts and you may wind up stocking shelves on the overnight shift at Pigly Wigly.
Poor decisions can cost you your life. In perspective Piggly Wiggly isn’t s bad!
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Originally Posted by Kenny Powers View Post
Actually they probably never should have taken off due to conditions and runway length. If they can't lose an engine at V1 and stop it on the runway then they did not have what's called "balanced field length"

Many companies would not allow this plane to leave the ramp.
They must have done runway analysis before they blocked out!?!?

Added: Just read the accident report. Seems they aborted 12 knots above V1. They should have gone flying!


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They must have done runway analysis before they blocked out!?!?

Added: Just read the accident report. Seems they aborted 12 knots above V1. They should have gone flying!

Better to fly with three then crash with one down
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Originally Posted by ThreeLittleFish View Post


They must have done runway analysis before they blocked out!?!?

Added: Just read the accident report. Seems they aborted 12 knots above V1. They should have gone flying!

so how many seconds would it take to get 12kts more? perhaps just quick analysis and reaction time?
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