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Old 06-11-2018, 06:12 PM
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1960 CESSNA 172A SKYHAWK

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  • Sale Status: For Sale
  • Year: 1960
  • Make/Model: CESSNA 172A SKYHAWK
  • Registration #: N7534T
  • Serial #: 47134
  • Location: Clovis, NM USA
Price: $30,000 USD

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General Specs (cont.)

Total Time:3,487

Engine 1 Overhaul Time:676 SMOH

Useful Load:830 lb

Condition:Used

Flight Rules:VFR

# of Seats:4

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Detailed Description

TT 3487, O-300 676 SMOH (1800 TBO). Flies regularly, times will vary. Runs well. VFR, spin on oil filter, auto fuel STC, 1-piece windshield, Cleveland brakes, shoulder harnesses, paint & interior OK, burns ~7.5,gph. Comes w/wheel pants at no add'l cost. Annual due Jan '19. Good compressions & borescope. All logs since '63.

Avionics / Equipment

King: KX155 NavCom with Glide Slope; KMA 24 Audio Switching Panel; KT 76A/78A Transponder with Mode C

Lowrance Airmap 2000C (not currently installed but comes w/the aircraft at no additional cost)

Airframe

3487 TT
Hangared
Wheel fairings currently off but they come with the airplane at no additional charge.
One Piece Windshield
Cleveland Brakes
Shoulder Harnesses
New ACK Model E-04 121.5/406 MHz ELT (2018)
Resealed nose strut (2018)

Engines / Mods / Prop

Continental O-300C 145hp
676 SMOH (1800 TBO; airplane flies regularly so hours will vary)
Burns about 7.5gph
McCauley climb prop installed
Spin on oil filter
STC Auto Fuel
Belt Driven Vacuum Pump
Compressions: 1-76/80; 2-68/80; 3-72/80; 4-79/80; 5-76/80; 6-78/80
Borescoped cylinders during ’18 annual—valves and cylinders look good, no issues
Recent new/overhauled equipment:
New ignition switch (2012)
Carb (2013)
Mags (Left-2013 & Right-2015)
Starter (2015)
Vacuum pump (2017)
Runs well & starts on first try every time

Interior / Exterior

Paint and Interior OK

Remarks

All maintenance logs since 1963 available in digital format & available upon request;
All ADs complied with
This is a great trainer airplane
Next annual due January 2019
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Stephen,
Your mileage may vary... The IA that did annuals on my plane told me stale listings ended up on Trade-a-plane. I haven't looked lately, but when I sold my airplane, most of the listings on there were from brokers, not individuals. Search Tempest, POA, Barnstormers, and beating the bushes at local airports (and word of mouth) may uncover some things worth a look. THT is a boaters forum with some GA pilots and owners. Yes, valid intel, but extremely limited.
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1965 CESSNA 172 SKYHAWK For Sale In Kanata, Ontario Canada






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AirframeLeft wingtip replaced after wind storm damage and new paint, new tires 2018,heatet pitot
Engine(s)490 SMOH, new engine mounts, new slick magnetos, new battery, new carb heat cable 2017, Carb temperature gauge,
Mogas approved but never used.
Prop Specs1303 HRS SMOH
Modifications/ConversionsNone
Avionics/RadiosNarco avionics, transponder Narco AT 165 TSO, standby digital attitude Dynon, King 406 ELT,
Additional EquipmentPortable moving map by Bendix/King AV80R
Year Painted2006
Exterior9/10
Year Interior1965
Interior7/10
Inspection StatusOctober 2017 annual
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Year1965
ManufacturerCESSNA
Model172 SKYHAWK
ConditionUsed
Serial #172-53661
Total Time5,960
FlightRulesIFR
Number of Seats4
Registration #C-FSSL
Overhaul490 SMOH

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Familiarize yourself with the upcoming ADS-B 2020 mandate. If you buy an aircraft that has not been updated, you'll be paying for the update yourself - which isn't necessarily a bad thing - but it's an expense and a technology that you need to be aware of.

FAA's ADS-B FAQ
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https://huntsville.craigslist.org/fo...601533558.html
Road trip... (fresh annual w/purchase)
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whats it got 400-500 until MOH? if im lucky?
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By the way, the Grumman AA-5 series are excellent aircraft and worthy of consideration. They are aerodynamically clean and are a stable and docile platform. The canopy also provides great all-around visibility.

As with every aircraft, there are pros and cons. As already mentioned, it's nice to be able to slide the canopy in-flight and during ground operations (it gets hot quickly on the ground). But entering and exiting the aircraft through a sliding canopy during rain has some obvious downsides. And you'll likely have to step on your seats getting in and out.

It has a castering nosewheel, so you have to use differential braking to steer. This isn't necessarily a positive or a negative, though you might go through brake linings quicker than an aircraft with a steerable nosewheel.

The design had some innovative features such as a bonded honeycomb structure, which reduced the number of rivets and the associated parasitic drag. And it utilizes a "wet wing" meaning, the wing itself is the fuel tank. There is no secondary bladder.

Do some reading and don't be laser focused on a Cessna 172. There are lots of worthy alternatives. The Piper Cherokee 140/150/160/180 are great aircraft too. I've always been partial to Cherokees.
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thanks tipsy, the cherokees have not went un-noticed ....just seems to me the others have more usefull load

edit......i guess I should post what my PPL end results would be.....I will be flying from PQL (pascagoula ms) to KGNF (grenada ms) it mostly will be me and my fiance, we weigh 300 lbs combined, when she packs for a 2 day trip its like a 7 day trip for me. Her luggage will be 2-300 lbs, mine about 100 lbs and on the trip home a 48 qt ice chest full of crappie and ice. It is 246 straight miles and 294 via HWY. hopefully whatever bird end up with can make the trip in 1 1/2 hours......

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But entering and exiting the aircraft through a sliding canopy during rain has some obvious downsides. And you'll likely have to step on your seats getting in and out.
I used to kick the seat cushion up using my right heel, then step on the seat structure rather that the cushion.
Probably 36 years since I flew the Cheetah, remember it well.
Also got hundreds of hours in Cherokees and Cessnas: 1100 hours in the C-207 flying bush in Alaska. Also a few hundred in C-180s and C-185, used mostly landing on beaches and sandbars buying fish from the Eskimos or flying Department of Fish and Wildlife Inspectors to remote locations to inspect the fisheries. Especially the Herring session, Japanese and Chinese trawlers came close and had to be monitored, we had special windows in the C-185 to look straight down and the inspectors used some kind of “scopes” to estimate the biomass and then open or close the fishing based on what they saw.
We had a beach camp at a remote place called Platinum Beach. Tents, weapons and fueling the airplane from drums with a hand pump. .Great place but some serious bad weather and fog occasionally. All the power in the C-185 kept me out of trouble and it is my favorite single engine airplane, highly recommended.
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that 207 is a beast
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why priced so low?

1960 CESSNA 175A

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  • Sale Status: For Sale
  • Year: 1960
  • Make/Model: CESSNA 175A
  • Registration #: N7015E
  • Serial #: 56515
  • Location: Bermuda Dunes, CA USA
Price: $23,900 USD

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Total Time:2,706

Engine 1 Overhaul Time:758

Condition:Used

Flight Rules:IFR

# of Seats:4

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1960 CESSNA 175, Only 2706TT, 758 SMOH, Digital Radios. Great cheap time builder. Annual due Dec 1, 2018.

Avionics / Equipment

King KA-134 Audio Panel
King Ky197 Digital Flip Flop Comm
Narco Mk12 D Digital Nav-Comm
King KT-76A Transponder

Airframe

Good clean airframe, no corrosion problems. Has been in the dry Desert air for years. No hail damage. Log books start on 4/29/91 log books prior were burned in a fire, the fire was at the owners home, not in the airplane. Times are transferred at 2138TT. The Generator and pull start have been removed and and an alternator and electric start added.

Engines / Mods / Prop

Chrome cylinders, good compression and dry climate history.

Interior / Exterior

Paint and interior are old. I do not know if the paint is original or not but it could be. The paint is all there for the most part but definitely needs polish. The interior has been re-done at some point and is decent condition.

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Originally Posted by bluffman2 View Post
why priced so low?
Probably because:

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Log books start on 4/29/91
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Probably because:

but it is plausible that a fire could have burned the original as stated?

or there could have been a major F up and they are hiding it??
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Originally Posted by bluffman2 View Post
but it is plausible that a fire could have burned the original as stated?

or there could have been a major F up and they are hiding it??
Definitely possible the logs were lost or burned/whatever. That is a C175 likely with the GO-300 geared engine and that may be why the value is reduced. Those run pretty well but the gearboxes tend to wear out before TBO (I could go into a discusson on how to avoid this but I'll spare you). The 172 (or a converted 175) with a direct drive O-300 or 320/360 is going to be more popular because those engines are familiar. Seeing as you are buying an aircraft to train in and will probably sell it after you get through some ratings I would stick with a 172 or a Cherokee 140/160/180. Its value will be predictable and it will be easy to sell when the time comes.
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TBO on that GO-300 engine is only 1200hrs.
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Well there you go. 3/4 of the way to overhaul with reputation for reliability problems and incomplete logs.
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Originally Posted by ThreeLittleFish View Post
TBO on that GO-300 engine is only 1200hrs.

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Well there you go. 3/4 of the way to overhaul with reputation for reliability problems and incomplete logs.
so whats wrong with the other cessnas I posted above that one?
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Originally Posted by bluffman2 View Post
so whats wrong with the other cessnas I posted above that one?
Nothing that I can tell. The nicest plane you posted is also one of the more expensive, the Grumman. I like that airplane for the money. Lower time engine, autopilot, and the panel flight instruments are arranged in a standard 6 pack layout (all airplanes since like the early 80's have been delivered this way). They are going to be faster than a 172... figure 130 knots cruise burning around 8 gph. 172 will do about `115kts on the same fuel.

If you are planning to keep the plane for personal transportation I would consider spending a bit more on one of those over a 172 or PA-28. (Grumman AA5 series).

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Originally Posted by dell30rb View Post
Nothing that I can tell. The nicest plane you posted is also one of the more expensive, the Grumman. I like that airplane for the money. Lower time engine, autopilot, and the panel flight instruments are arranged in a standard 6 pack layout (all airplanes since like the early 80's have been delivered this way). They are going to be faster than a 172... figure 130 knots cruise burning around 8 gph. 172 will do about `115kts on the same fuel.

If you are planning to keep the plane for personal transportation I would consider spending a bit more on one of those over a 172 or PA-28. (Grumman AA5 series).
I dont know if you seen what im fixing to copy and paste, but will the grumman do this??

I will be flying from PQL (pascagoula ms) to KGNF (grenada ms) it mostly will be me and my fiance, we weigh 300 lbs combined, when she packs for a 2 day trip its like a 7 day trip for me. Her luggage will be 2-300 lbs, mine about 100 lbs and on the trip home a 48 qt ice chest full of crappie and ice. It is 246 straight miles and 294 via HWY. hopefully whatever bird end up with can make the trip in 1 1/2 hours......
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1965 BEECHCRAFT A23 MUSKETEER II

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  • Sale Status: For Sale
  • Year: 1965
  • Make/Model: BEECHCRAFT A23 MUSKETEER II
  • Registration #: N2331W
  • Serial #: Not Listed
  • Location: Bolivar, MO USA
Price: $26,000 USD

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Total Time:3,007

Engine 1 Overhaul Time:73 SCMOH

Useful Load:890 lb

Condition:Used

Year Painted:2005

Interior Year:2005

Flight Rules:IFR

# of Seats:4

Detailed Description

1965 Musketeer, 3007 TT, 74 SMOH, IFR capable. P&I 8. Next annual 5/'19.

Avionics / Equipment

Dated but serviceable Dual Narco Coms VOR Encoded Transponder 4 cylinder engine analizer IFR timer G Meter 8 Day clock lexan visors reclining seats

Airframe

3007 never damaged no corrosion large roomy interior
Spent most of its life in dry high California desert

Engines / Mods / Prop

Continental IO 346 165 Horse Fuel injected 300 SMOH on prop. Altenator New Sky-Tec starter and adapter new Concord heavy duty battery

Interior / Exterior

Airtex interior excellent condition Nice paint

Remarks

Flew 1200 mile trip April 2018 used 1 qt oil. Excellent IFR platform, solid as a rock hands off.
Good glass except Small third windows need replaced, I have new ones that I’ll include with sale.
All logs since day one.
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