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Old 07-23-2006, 10:00 AM
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So what do ya'll have in your home kitchens for countertops?

My Admiral wants to have them replaced............

We're looking at the Quartz by (Dupont) Zodiaq, anyone have these....

Also, what are the pros and cons to your type of countertops....we have talked to Lowes and Home Depot.

Any assistance from the members here will be greatly appreciated....


She just ordered a new Stove (convection / regular and warming drawer) Stainless and a new Stainless Bottom drawer freezer refer.

This project is gonna cost me big bucks.....
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we just installed a soap stone counter top last year
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Granite's what we have.
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Having our first home built pretty soon. Instead of built-in kitchen counters we will have stainless worktables of typical kitchen counter height with riser-edges to go against tiled walls -- stainless drawers can be added under them as wanted -- typical restaurant/foodservice equipment as alternative to built-ins. They are durable, easy care, easy to move and rearrange as wanted, easy to clean all over and under.
We will likely get one of those refrigerator-freezers having a bottom freezer drawer.
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We have what is called Ceasar Stone - It's a manufactured material, Better than granite in that does not have the porosity (so no staining that can happen with granite), much harder than quartz or Corian so it doesn't scratch nor stain as easily. Available in a wide variety of colors etc.

Love the stuff, but good luck finding it except possibly through a contractor.


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I carve soap stone in my spare time......I couldn't imagine installing that stone in the kitchen for a counter. Yes a swipe with vegetable oil would hide the scratches, but it's got to have a lot of marks by now.

I just have arborite in the kitchen......which the Misses is starting to lay a beating on - on the same token my work bench in the shop hasnít remain looking like new either.

I just installed a marble counter top in the bathroom....IMO even marble is a little soft for kitchen counter surfaces (it does scratch), especially if you go with the darker colours.

Granite, now thereís a counter top material, but they have some excellent composite granites now-a-days for a fraction of the cost.

I guess since Iíve covered most surface materials Iíd might as well cover ceramic tile counter tops, to my understanding this is quite popular in various regions in the States.....personally I just donít see it. IMHO it looks cheap as all get out, like trailer trash. Now I donít do the kitchen thing, but I couldnít imagine building in a pain in the ars for the Misses.....wiping the counter would have to be a royal pain in the you know what!

Iíve heard some people are using slate. Like why????? Man that would have to mark like crazy.


All I know from my designer sense is that not all surfaces will work in all environments. So choose wisely because of the expense of it says it will be there for a long time.
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Go Granite! Make sure you get a thick countertop - the thin countertops look like..... (my mother made that mistake with one of the kitchen redo franchise guys)

anyway, easy to maintain, just wipe it down with windex or whatever. I have a man made material at the beach house and it sucks! A corian type material called gilbrater - looks like crap and cost a ton.

Just make sure you don't get screwed on the thickness...
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There is no simple answer to this. It all depends on kitchen and its style. While these days granite is the preferred choice of the populous, it certainly does not meet the standards of every kitchen. For example, I could not imagine a granite counter top in an arts and craft kitchen or a full blown commercial style kitchen. Photos and a bit about the style of the kitchen would help a great deal.

However, to answer your question main house has granite and the beach house also has granite.

Do your self a favor and whatever you choose make sure you do not buy off of a sample - LOOK AT THE ACTUAL SLAB/STONE/SLATE YOUR COUNTER WILL BE CUT FROM. If where you are buying does not allow this - GO SOME PLACE ELSE.
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Standard granite thickness is 3/4" (up here at least) which as triguy7 mentioned is to thin for large counter areas. Instead of buying thicker material just have an additional layer of granite epoxied onto the outer edge.....1 Ĺ" thickness is an industry standard for a lip/ edge.
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There's some good advice in all the above replys, thanks so much for taking the time to help me out.....as always I learned a lot.............THANKS
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Do your self a favor and whatever you choose make sure you do not buy off of a sample - LOOK AT THE ACTUAL SLAB/STONE/SLATE YOUR COUNTER WILL BE CUT FROM. If where you are buying does not allow this - GO SOME PLACE ELSE.
Oh boy do I have to second that one.....keep in mind that natural stone was made by Mother Nature and a mountain range is awfully big when viewed from the perspective of an approx. 7'x12'x3/4" slab.

Seams in natural stone become problematic. If the stone you pick out has any form of vanning or pattern to it the seams and junctions of counter top to back splash will become an issue. The pattern matches at these junctures will and often does make or break a job.

Often times a kitchen can be cut out of a single slab, but in doing so would mean for terrible shade or colour matches at the seams......so the customer is forced to ďpay forĒ a full second and in some cases a third slab so the seams are a good match....this really adds to the cost. When this happens it becomes a hassle for you because you now have to find several sheets of stone you want in the colour/ shades/ patterns you like. Donít settle on what they have in stock if the colour or pattern really doesnít set you off......it will be down for an awfully long time.
* Additional footnote here: make no mistake the stone people will be billing you for the all the slabs they bring in from their suppliers to do your job, regardless of how many slabs are needed for your job and how much is left over. Therefore technically what is left over is yours! The stone people really make their money from selling your free to them left overs to the next person that needs only a small job.
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That's one of the advantages of the synthetic stuff. BTW - The ceasar stone I showed above is about 4 yrs old in the photo, in a house with 6 kids when installed (we've managed to cull the popluation around here since then). No stains, no scratches, in spite of that kind of abuse. If memory serves, it's a bout a half-inch thick.

I used to do a lot of work with granite (primarily precision surface plates), and although quite good looking it can stain quite readily - That's about the only reason we went with the Ceasar stone, which, BTW is also less likely to chip.

I don't recall how it compared pricewise, a little cheaper than granite I think.
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mine are ceramic tile, 12x12...much cheaper than stone & very durable
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Corian in our house.......my wife wouldn't even consider granite or marble......she didn't like: i) the extremely hard surface; 2) the fact they needed some maintenance; and, 3) the potential for staining. Unfortunately she picked one of the more expensive Corian products so we didn't save any money going with that choice. She initially wanted SS counters like those in her mother's +100 year old Sav home.......when she saw the price of that option we were on to Plan B.
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I've had a few. Currently granite, last house was solid surfacing. The solid was great with the molded under mount sink. It was not 2 weeks old and got stained by the house keeper. Mixed up some Oxy Clean and it was gone in a few minutes. We chose the flat finish over the polished. If you scratched it some Scotch Bright made it go away. Same for the sink, Scotch Bright made it brand new again from marks and scratches due to washing pots and pans. We used Gibraltar brand as it did not look as fake as the others.

New house is granite. (Dakota Mahogany) It was a no brainer match with the cherry cabinets. The one thing about all stone products is your stemware and plates. These will break and chip easily with these surfaces. I called for slate but the local company did not call back. Probably just as well in the end. The Mrs. would not have been happy with black and I don't think I would have either in the end.

In all the other houses that I manage there is a mix of solid, granite, tile, and laminate. IMO tile and laminate should be left off most peoples list. Sometimes kids and budget prevail. Fabrication shops can do some pretty nice inlays with the solid.
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I carve soap stone in my spare time......I couldn't imagine installing that stone in the kitchen for a counter. Yes a swipe with vegetable oil would hide the scratches, but it's got to have a lot of marks by now.

I just have arborite in the kitchen......which the Misses is starting to lay a beating on - on the same token my work bench in the shop hasnít remain looking like new either.

I just installed a marble counter top in the bathroom....IMO even marble is a little soft for kitchen counter surfaces (it does scratch), especially if you go with the darker colours.

Granite, now thereís a counter top material, but they have some excellent composite granites now-a-days for a fraction of the cost.

I guess since Iíve covered most surface materials Iíd might as well cover ceramic tile counter tops, to my understanding this is quite popular in various regions in the States.....personally I just donít see it. IMHO it looks cheap as all get out, like trailer trash. Now I donít do the kitchen thing, but I couldnít imagine building in a pain in the ars for the Misses.....wiping the counter would have to be a royal pain in the you know what!

Iíve heard some people are using slate. Like why????? Man that would have to mark like crazy.


All I know from my designer sense is that not all surfaces will work in all environments. So choose wisely because of the expense of it says it will be there for a long time.
not s single scratch on it its very duriable, A friend of mine actually just put in a copper counter top which looks really nice the sink and counter toip are all 1 piece
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we got a quote from lowes for our countertops and when their contractor came out , it was a total different price, than what lowes quoted me on and i couldnt get the color of the corian i wanted they said it was discontinued so, i cancelled the order and was swaying toward tile until i went to my local plumbing store to pick out a stainless steel sink and we were talking about corian and he mentioned a product called meganite/which is made by dupont,it has a lifetime gurantee. which we ended up getting from a contractor who works for the plumbing store. so far the product has held up great and it is suppose to better than corian and it was very close to the color i wanted and lots cheaper .
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Old 07-23-2006, 07:34 PM
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What shape are yer cabinets in? A granite top is an expensive item, but lasts forever. Once it's installed, you can't replace the cabinets. I've encountered several kitchens with $10,000. tops and $1000. cabinets falling apart. Granite is generally sold in 2cm and 3cm thicknesses. Personally, I've got Formica tops except the island which has a nice granite slab. Formica tops built with plywood and thick formica (not that curved postformed liteweight crap) hold up well, and are inexpensive enough to justify changing them in a few years.
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Granite that's heavily veined with copper, so it polishes up to a nice, metal flake-like finish (of course, it's not my kitchen at home...but).



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Rich,
In that photo, your kitchen windows are so clean that at first I thought I was looking at an outdoor kitchen! Do you hire out?
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