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Old 06-03-2018, 05:26 AM
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Just quoted 20k for 9.5 x 4 x 5 ID, U shaped kitchen with kamodo joe, power burner, sink, and drink fridge. Level 1 granite top. Seems outrageous but everyone quoting about 1k a foot.

I can prob just order prefab frame kit but Cost wise, what are we talking here if I did it myself?

-concrete board $200 ?
-alum framing - $300 ?
-kamodo joe -$1,000
-power burner -$1200
-sink
-drink fridge $350
-split face travertine -
-2 slabs granite - 3k


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In the world of contracting, many times the question when bidding isn't how much it costs, it's how much are you willing to pay.
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With almost everything, doing it yourself will always cost, in parts, a small % of what someone else will do it for you.

Question is, what's your time and the convenience factor worth to you.

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I've already built an egg module from a prefab frame kit. Covered in cement board, added a stainless door, diamond pattern tumbled travertine, and a granite top. It's not rocket science. I'd obviously prefer to just pay someone but at these crazy a@@ prices I'll prob end up doing this one on my own.

​If outdoor kitchen builing business is this good, I may need to find a couple laborers or college kids and open a business.


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I did mine for less than 3K.
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Electrical work, plumbing, propane..

quality of components

adds up..

get a a couple of quotes..
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You make the frames out of metal wall studs (a pair of tin snips, a drill and pan head sheet metal screws) I framed mine as I went and I joined each module with cross members and skinned with tile backer. The stone came in small sheets 24" x 6" with notches. standard thin set. I purchased the granite as pre made counter slabs and bar tops. simply paid an installer to do their thing. I have natural gas, hot and cold water, 3 120V outlets with GFCI breaker. I put a 2 gallon water heater in it. only thing I did not do was connect to my home sewer. mine drains into my yard drains and runs out to the street.(I do not wash food items down the drain)

If you would like a more detailed idea look here.
https://www.google.com/search?q=outdoor+kitchen+frame+plans&source=lnms&t bm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiZ_o2Ix7fbAhVOj1kKHa90A_kQ _AUICygC&biw=1012&bih=459
http://www.bbqcoach.com/content/pro-...et-catalog.pdf





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THT. The land of "it is cheaper to do the work yourself than to pay someone else".

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I did mine for less than 3K.
How long did it take you to complete the project?
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How long did it take you to complete the project?
With work and being gone on the road. I built the frames in 1 weekend, backer board next weekend, the stone work took longer as every order came in half broken. So it can be done in less than a week. Overall for me 6 weeks, because stone would come damaged, I would take that to HD for reorder, wait another week or so and repeat.

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I’ll come do it for $18k hahaha

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Originally Posted by OffshoreApparel.com View Post
Just quoted 20k for 9.5 x 4 x 5 ID, U shaped kitchen with kamodo joe, power burner, sink, and drink fridge. Level 1 granite top. Seems outrageous but everyone quoting about 1k a foot.

I can prob just order prefab frame kit but Cost wise, what are we talking here if I did it myself?

-concrete board $200 ?
-alum framing - $300 ?
-kamodo joe -$1,000
-power burner -$1200
-sink
-drink fridge $350
-split face travertine -
-2 slabs granite - 3k


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I’ll come do it for $18k hahaha

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I’ve got your boy Conrad construction doing it , but I’ll pitch in a case of beer if you wanna come help.

Seriously, tho. In college, building outdoor kitchens would have been a gold mine. Easily could have paid my way by doing just a few a year.



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Originally Posted by OffshoreApparel.com View Post
Just quoted 20k for 9.5 x 4 x 5 ID, U shaped kitchen with kamodo joe, power burner, sink, and drink fridge. Level 1 granite top. Seems outrageous but everyone quoting about 1k a foot.

I can prob just order prefab frame kit but Cost wise, what are we talking here if I did it myself?

-concrete board $200 ?
-alum framing - $300 ?
-kamodo joe -$1,000
-power burner -$1200
-sink
-drink fridge $350
-split face travertine -
-2 slabs granite - 3k
If your time is free, you can do it for less. If you account for the value of your time, you can't. I know that sounds reductionist (or stupid) but it really depends on how much time you have, how often, and whether you are willing to make this a priority.

But how much cheaper? That's the question. And how good are your material assumptions?

Your grill is low - the new KJs run around $1,700. I would, absolutely, seriously considering going Big Joe. I cook regularly on both and the extra space is invaluable.

I think, realistically, you're going to be pushing up toward $10k worth of material costs alone.

If you have the time, and the expertise to do it yourself you could save a decent chunk of change. If you don't have expertise.....

$20 doesn't surprise me very much......
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Take a look here.
https://diybbq.com/straight-module/
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If travertine flooring, grill, stacked stone, countertop etc were all included as part of the quote then let it rip. If it's just material/labor for the U-shaped bar and maybe countertop, no way there's $10k in material.

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If your time is free, you can do it for less. If you account for the value of your time, you can't. I know that sounds reductionist (or stupid) but it really depends on how much time you have, how often, and whether you are willing to make this a priority.

But how much cheaper? That's the question. And how good are your material assumptions?

Your grill is low - the new KJs run around $1,700. I would, absolutely, seriously considering going Big Joe. I cook regularly on both and the extra space is invaluable.

I think, realistically, you're going to be pushing up toward $10k worth of material costs alone.

If you have the time, and the expertise to do it yourself you could save a decent chunk of change. If you don't have expertise.....

$20 doesn't surprise me very much......
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If travertine flooring, grill, stacked stone, countertop etc were all included as part of the quote then let it rip. If it's just material/labor for the U-shaped bar and maybe countertop, no way there's $10k in material.
I was assuming based on the start of his materials list that the $20k was all inclusive.
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Seriously, tho. In college, building outdoor kitchens would have been a gold mine. Easily could have paid my way by doing just a few a year.
Na, not even close. Builder might make between 2-3k per job in profit
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Na, not even close. Builder might make between 2-3k per job in profit
Sorry, far more profit that that in this quote.



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I was assuming based on the start of his materials list that the $20k was all inclusive.
20k quote is just for the cabinets, stack stone, level 1 granite, power burner, a few stainless doors, sink, 3 outlets, led lighting, and a hood. No flooring, and I have to provide the kamodo Joe and the drink fridge separately.

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Sounds a little high for sure but there is more to this than what is being led on.

What about permitting, existing conditions, utility runs, survey, tie ins, etc.......

Not saying any of this comes into play, but something I think about as a GC. You also have to consider it will take as many subs to do that job as an indoor kitchen, minus the sheet rocker. The smaller the job, the higher the PSF price. You are working on a luxury, with obvious expendable income, in a hot market where labor and good help are hard to come by and aren't cheap when you get them. I would recommend getting another bid.
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