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KismetLRC 05-30-2018 09:28 AM

Health of the Chesapeake Bay
 
The Chesapeake Bay Foundation just released their mid-point assessment. Positive news, but a lot to still be done to get the health of our bay back.

Blueprint Progress: Tracking Milestones - Chesapeake Bay Foundation

Dulcecita Lures 05-30-2018 09:45 AM

Shut down the menhaden processing plants and let them little fishies do their thing filtering the bay water.

mikefloyd 05-30-2018 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by Dulcecita Lures (Post 11468497)
Shut down the menhaden processing plants and let them little fishies do their thing filtering the bay water.

Amen

Shore Native 05-30-2018 09:55 AM

Meh, same old same old from CBF.

Farmers suck, residential development sucks, municipal WWTP OK. Meanwhile, MD WWTP's overflow millions of gallons of raw sewage year after year.

I wonder how much money the CBF would raise if they weren't scaring everyone about how dire the situation is?

Just1more 05-30-2018 10:00 AM

The folks upstream from the Conowingo aren't helping much.

bayfisher92 05-30-2018 10:05 AM

I basically spent all my summers in the bay/on the bay from 2006-2011. Listened to many older generations tell me it was the oysters that filtered the bay, and it actually used to have visibility of 3-5 feet. After the Oysters got harvested there was nothing left to filter the water. Rockfish were blenty (Striper) and you could eat more than 1 without worry of "mercury".

Still remember the summer evenings watching thunderstorms roll into the bay from Point Lookout.

Dulcecita Lures 05-30-2018 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by bayfisher92 (Post 11468578)
Still remember the summer evenings watching thunderstorms roll into the bay from Point Lookout.

Yup. Remember setting up and fishing along the seawall there. Cold cooler of beer in the back of the truck. Smothern Maryland humidity of 98% and 98 degrees -- and it wasn't raining!

SeaJay 05-30-2018 10:23 AM

More Coastal development along the bay leads to runoff which in turn leads to more nitrogen in the bay. The result is a less conducive environment for the oysters to prosper.

240 LTS 05-30-2018 12:13 PM

Zebra mussels I tell ya, zebra mussels will filter the water. ;) (Yes they have there down side)
Look what it did to Lake Erie. :grin:
You can see 25+/- feet there and the smallies and other fish love it.


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chrispnet 05-30-2018 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by SeaJay (Post 11468657)
More Coastal development along the bay leads to runoff which in turn leads to more nitrogen in the bay. The result is a less conducive environment for the oysters to prosper.

True. And the inland development impact is worse. 20 million people living in the Chesapeake Bay watershed, and most donít contemplate where their creeks runoff.

Insider 05-30-2018 04:16 PM

I like how they try and blame the damn for the pollution.....as if the damn causes the pollution

it is just an example of going after a basically defenseless entity using permit BS to tax the company while pretending that the company is not just going to pass the cost on to the energy consumers

SeaBoss21 05-30-2018 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by Insider (Post 11469814)
I like how they try and blame the damn for the pollution.....as if the damn causes the pollution

it is just an example of going after a basically defenseless entity using permit BS to tax the company while pretending that the company is not just going to pass the cost on to the energy consumers

the damn what?

cdrhoek 05-30-2018 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by bayfisher92 (Post 11468578)
I basically spent all my summers in the bay/on the bay from 2006-2011. Listened to many older generations tell me it was the oysters that filtered the bay, and it actually used to have visibility of 3-5 feet. After the Oysters got harvested there was nothing left to filter the water. Rockfish were blenty (Striper) and you could eat more than 1 without worry of "mercury".

Still remember the summer evenings watching thunderstorms roll into the bay from Point Lookout.

the oysters werenít all harvested, they were killed by disease (parasites). Disease resistant strains of oysters are slowly bringing the oyster population back

Mako 234 05-30-2018 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by Dulcecita Lures (Post 11468497)
Shut down the menhaden processing plants and let them little fishies do their thing filtering the bay water.

:thumbsup:

Fishermohn 05-31-2018 05:11 AM

One of the biggest issues with the bay is all the sewage overflow during rain, especially from Baltimore. Seems like it almost weekly during the summer there's a spill in the Patapsco river

Shore Native 05-31-2018 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by Fishermohn (Post 11471070)
One of the biggest issues with the bay is all the sewage overflow during rain, especially from Baltimore. Seems like it almost weekly during the summer there's a spill in the Patapsco river

In the storm we had the other day 10 million gallons of untreated sewage was dumped into the Jones Falls. It was on the news this morning. Happens every big rain Baltimore gets- but hey, it's the farmers.

duckfish 05-31-2018 11:38 AM

I'll preface the following by saying that I am completely in favor protecting and improving a natural resource jewel like the Chesapeake Bay. I fish it often and have a personal vested interest in improving it's quality. However.......

The CBF is a non-profit organization with some very well compensated staff. And an agenda. Like most non-profits, their agenda is not served by reporting peaches & cream.

https://www.paysa.com/salaries/chesa...apolis,-md--cl

https://www.charitynavigator.org/ind...ary&orgid=3467



Additionally, their TMDL model has some serious holes in it. For example, their scorecard only credits farmer's efforts if they have applied for traceable grant monies. Significant untold acres of farmland are in no-till production and/or cover crop rotation without ever being factored into CBF's "report card". Until their basis for grading in the report card is based on reality, I personally have a hard time lending much weight to it.

https://lancasteronline.com/opinion/...d2fb56938.html



IMO some of their efforts and methodologies are mis-guided. Maybe even self-serving. And certainly not cognizant of the ramifications on personal property rights and the balance of the equally important greater good of affordable food and housing.

And then there's always...... follow the money....

https://capitalresearch.org/article/...-its-own-mess/


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