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Old 05-28-2018, 03:56 PM
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So it looks like I'm going to have a fair amount of first timers going fishing with me this summer. I'll spare you the gory details of why. These are guys I see socially
a few times a year, but we don't hang out. More acquaintances than friends. I would like to avoid some of the issues that I've had in the past, along with some discussed
by others here and was considering sending out the following prior to heading out. Just curious....Dick move, or OK?

“TIPS FOR HAVING AN ENJOYABLE DAY OF FISHING” – AKA “THINGS YOU NEED TO KNOW”

1. I WILL PROVIDE ALL THE FISHING GEAR REQUIRED. THIS INCLUDES BAIT. IF YOU’D LIKE TO BRING YOUR OWN, FEEL FREE TO DO SO. I DON’T PROVIDE
FOOD AND DRINK SO PLAN ACCORDINGLY. AND YOU WILL NEED A FISHING LICENSE. NO EXCEPTIONS.
2. YOU ARE NOT EXPECTED TO PAY FOR TACKLE (HOOKS, SINKERS, RIGS) THAT YOU LOSE (AND YOU WILL LOSE SOME). HOWEVER, IF YOU DROP THE ROD AND
REEL OVERBOARD AND LOSE THEM YOU WILL BE EXPECTED TO REPLACE THEM TO MATCH WHAT YOU LOST. THIS WILL RUN YOU ABOUT $400.
3. WHEN THE BOAT IS MOVING FAST, PLEASE SIT, OR STAND, AND ENJOY THE RIDE. PLEASE DON’T WALK AROUND AS I’D PREFER YOU DON’T FALL OVERBOARD
WHEN WE HIT AN UNEXPECTED WAVE (WHICH WILL HAPPEN).
4. IF YOU’RE NOT A GOOD SWIMMER, PLEASE LET ME KNOW AS I HAVE INFLATABLE LIFE VESTS YOU CAN WEAR THAT AREN’T TOO BULKY. IF YOU SWIM LIKE A
ROCK AND GO OVERBOARD, I DON’T WANT TO HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO YOUR WIFE AND KIDS WHY YOU’RE SLEEPING WITH THE FISHES.
5. WE WILL BE GOING OFFSHORE. OUT OF SIGHT OF LAND. I HAVE MORE (MUCH MORE) THAN THE REQUIRED SAFETY EQUIPMENT, INCLUDING A LIFE RAFT. IF THIS
MAKES YOU UNCOMFORTABLE, PLEASE RECONSIDER COMING.
6. IF YOU ARE PRONE TO SEA-SICKNESS LET ME KNOW AND TAKE AS MANY PRECAUTIONS AS POSSIBLE. IF WE GET 35 MILES OFFSHORE AND YOU START HEAVING,
YOU’RE GOING TO HAVE A LONG DAY UNLESS YOU TELL ME UP FRONT.
7. UNLESS I SPECIFICALLY ASK YOU TO DO SOMETHING REGARDING THE OPERATION OF THE BOAT, JUST SIT BACK AND RELAX. IF I WANT HELP, I’LL ASK. AND ALONG
THESE LINES, IF I TELL YOU TO DO SOMETHING, DO IT. I PROMISE THAT THERE'S A REASON WHICH I WILL EXPLAIN AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME.
8. ALL FISHING REGULATIONS WILL BE ADHERED TO. NO EXCEPTIONS.
9. BRING ALL THE BEER/ALCOHOL YOU WANT. BUT IF YOU GET STUPID DRUNK, I WILL DROP YOU OFF AT THE CLOSEST PIECE OF DRY LAND. THIS WILL PROBABLY
NOT BE WHERE WE LEFT FROM. HOW YOU GET HOME WILL BE YOUR PROBLEM.
10. NO DRUGS. THIS INCLUDES POT.
11. REMEMBER – IT’S CALLED FISHING, NOT CATCHING. I WILL DO MY BEST TO PUT YOU ON THE FISH, BUT THERE ARE NO GUARANTEES. SOMETIMES, THEY JUST DON’T BITE.
12. IF YOU NEED TO BE BACK BY A CERTAIN TIME, LET ME KNOW UP FRONT. THIS WILL DETERMINE WHERE WE GO.
13. WHERE WE’RE GOING, YOUR CELL PHONE WILL NOT WORK.
14. I’M NOT A BIG FAN OF MUSIC WHILE FISHING. SO IF YOU NEED TUNES, BRING YOUR OWN AND SOME EARBUDS.
15. AND LASTLY – IT’S MY BOAT. I AM THE CAPTAIN. ABOVE ALL IT IS MY RESPONSIBILITY TO GET US HOME SAFELY. THEREFORE, MY DECISIONS WILL BE FINAL,
ESPECIALLY IN MATTERS REGARDING SAFETY.
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Old 05-28-2018, 04:02 PM
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It's your boat so you make the rules. But, I'd seriously consider reformatting the "rules" from ALL CAPS so you aren't immediately labeled a DICK.
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Old 05-28-2018, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Marlin308 View Post
It's your boat so you make the rules. But, I'd seriously consider reformatting the "rules" from ALL CAPS so you aren't immediately labeled a DICK.
this better???? I know. I had them on for the header and forgot to turn them off.
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What happens in the event of an unexpected water landing or loss of cabin pressure?
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Old 05-28-2018, 04:09 PM
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When I read the thread title I thought "oh bother." But you know what? I like it. Nicely done.
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Re#6
It appears if I tell you I am prone to being sea sick, prior to going 35 miles offshore, you will turn around and head back in?

Would you recommend chili for breakfast, as precaution?

Re # 15
Things other than safety are subject to debate?


Personally, I would take baby steps with acquaintances, with unknown boating experience.




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Old 05-28-2018, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by CJS View Post
So it looks like I'm going to have a fair amount of first timers going fishing with me this summer. I'll spare you the gory details of why. These are guys I see socially
a few times a year, but we don't hang out. More acquaintances than friends. I would like to avoid some of the issues that I've had in the past, along with some discussed
by others here and was considering sending out the following prior to heading out. Just curious....Dick move, or OK?

“TIPS FOR HAVING AN ENJOYABLE DAY OF FISHING” – AKA “THINGS YOU NEED TO KNOW”

1. I WILL PROVIDE ALL THE FISHING GEAR REQUIRED. THIS INCLUDES BAIT. IF YOU’D LIKE TO BRING YOUR OWN, FEEL FREE TO DO SO. I DON’T PROVIDE
FOOD AND DRINK SO PLAN ACCORDINGLY. AND YOU WILL NEED A FISHING LICENSE. NO EXCEPTIONS.
2. YOU ARE NOT EXPECTED TO PAY FOR TACKLE (HOOKS, SINKERS, RIGS) THAT YOU LOSE (AND YOU WILL LOSE SOME). HOWEVER, IF YOU DROP THE ROD AND
REEL OVERBOARD AND LOSE THEM YOU WILL BE EXPECTED TO REPLACE THEM TO MATCH WHAT YOU LOST. THIS WILL RUN YOU ABOUT $400.
3. WHEN THE BOAT IS MOVING FAST, PLEASE SIT, OR STAND, AND ENJOY THE RIDE. PLEASE DON’T WALK AROUND AS I’D PREFER YOU DON’T FALL OVERBOARD
WHEN WE HIT AN UNEXPECTED WAVE (WHICH WILL HAPPEN).
4. IF YOU’RE NOT A GOOD SWIMMER, PLEASE LET ME KNOW AS I HAVE INFLATABLE LIFE VESTS YOU CAN WEAR THAT AREN’T TOO BULKY. IF YOU SWIM LIKE A
ROCK AND GO OVERBOARD, I DON’T WANT TO HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO YOUR WIFE AND KIDS WHY YOU’RE SLEEPING WITH THE FISHES.
5. WE WILL BE GOING OFFSHORE. OUT OF SIGHT OF LAND. I HAVE MORE (MUCH MORE) THAN THE REQUIRED SAFETY EQUIPMENT, INCLUDING A LIFE RAFT. IF THIS
MAKES YOU UNCOMFORTABLE, PLEASE RECONSIDER COMING.
6. IF YOU ARE PRONE TO SEA-SICKNESS LET ME KNOW AND TAKE AS MANY PRECAUTIONS AS POSSIBLE. IF WE GET 35 MILES OFFSHORE AND YOU START HEAVING,
YOU’RE GOING TO HAVE A LONG DAY UNLESS YOU TELL ME UP FRONT.
7. UNLESS I SPECIFICALLY ASK YOU TO DO SOMETHING REGARDING THE OPERATION OF THE BOAT, JUST SIT BACK AND RELAX. IF I WANT HELP, I’LL ASK. AND ALONG
THESE LINES, IF I TELL YOU TO DO SOMETHING, DO IT. I PROMISE THAT THERE'S A REASON WHICH I WILL EXPLAIN AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME.
8. ALL FISHING REGULATIONS WILL BE ADHERED TO. NO EXCEPTIONS.
9. BRING ALL THE BEER/ALCOHOL YOU WANT. BUT IF YOU GET STUPID DRUNK, I WILL DROP YOU OFF AT THE CLOSEST PIECE OF DRY LAND. THIS WILL PROBABLY
NOT BE WHERE WE LEFT FROM. HOW YOU GET HOME WILL BE YOUR PROBLEM.
10. NO DRUGS. THIS INCLUDES POT.
11. REMEMBER – IT’S CALLED FISHING, NOT CATCHING. I WILL DO MY BEST TO PUT YOU ON THE FISH, BUT THERE ARE NO GUARANTEES. SOMETIMES, THEY JUST DON’T BITE.
12. IF YOU NEED TO BE BACK BY A CERTAIN TIME, LET ME KNOW UP FRONT. THIS WILL DETERMINE WHERE WE GO.
13. WHERE WE’RE GOING, YOUR CELL PHONE WILL NOT WORK.
14. I’M NOT A BIG FAN OF MUSIC WHILE FISHING. SO IF YOU NEED TUNES, BRING YOUR OWN AND SOME EARBUDS.
15. AND LASTLY – IT’S MY BOAT. I AM THE CAPTAIN. ABOVE ALL IT IS MY RESPONSIBILITY TO GET US HOME SAFELY. THEREFORE, MY DECISIONS WILL BE FINAL,
ESPECIALLY IN MATTERS REGARDING SAFETY.
lol. You lost me at you are the captain. Good luck finding crew. It's just fishing dont take it so seriously.
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Old 05-28-2018, 04:17 PM
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I see no problem with it, I would say I don’t mind you drinking some but we are going fishing and not out to the bar so no drunks what so ever. I tell people on my boat if the rod and reel goes in the water your hand better still be on it when it hits the bottom. Fishing is suppose to be fun and everybody have a good time but that want happen if one person acts like an idiot
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Old 05-28-2018, 04:21 PM
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We have three rules on our boat, but the list would be longer if I'm taking people I don't know all that well...

1) No hard soled shoes
2) No bad attitudes
3) No spray sunscreen

Considering what others have said, your list seems completely reasonable.
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Old 05-28-2018, 04:24 PM
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Looks good. Soft on the entry and let's everyone know the expectexpectations. Dick move for friends, not a dick move for aquaintences.
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Old 05-28-2018, 04:29 PM
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Can I bring a banana?
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Old 05-28-2018, 04:30 PM
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Real friends already know the rules - the rest need to understand all the implications of #15 and spelling them out in detail is a good idea. We always have a more or less formal safety orientation whenever we have newbs onboard. - where are the fire extinguishers, what's the life jacket protocol, helping only when specifically asked, muster point in the event of calamity. Nothing too heavy but covers all the critical stuff in about 5 minutes and provides a great opportunity for questions that they might otherwise not bother asking.
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Old 05-28-2018, 04:31 PM
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I agree with all your rules. Personally, I don't allow alcohol on my boat, mainly because of #7. If I give an order I need it followed, quickly and unimpaired.

Love #8 - it always amazes me what meat whores and scofflaws some people can be. Ironically it's usually the "law and order" types, too.
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Old 05-28-2018, 04:37 PM
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Rule 12 - if you have to be back for a specific time, do not come on the trip. I return to the dock when I feel like it.

Additional rule - the boat waits for nobody. If I say we leave at 6:00, at 6:01 the boat is not in its slip. Do not be on time, be early.
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Old 05-28-2018, 04:46 PM
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Holy caps lock.
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Old 05-28-2018, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Marlin308 View Post
It's your boat so you make the rules. But, I'd seriously consider reformatting the "rules" from ALL CAPS so you aren't immediately labeled a DICK.
No shit, my eyes still hurt.
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Old 05-28-2018, 04:52 PM
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Add to it whatever you whatever your expectations are for fuel/ice/supplies split. Also drop the caps, and generally review the language for anything that comes off as a bit pushy.

Also just add an intro statement along the lines of you always enjoy introducing new fisherman to the sport, and learning from seasoned fishermen. Perhaps also the name of your boat and the port of call, in case they just want something they can forward their wives.
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Old 05-28-2018, 05:06 PM
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Oh one more thing....

pics of acquaintances wives?
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I have done something similar to that, but also included some legal information on the advice of my lawyer friend. This is sent or distributed in advance of pushing off. I don't require a Release of Liability, but understanding of what I told or sent them. Something along the lines of...

Ship happens out there sometimes really fast, and while Ed has insurance coverage for the safe operation and enjoyment of the vessel, he is not a professional for this endeavor, nor insured that way, and all passengers are along on their own choosing.
Everything will be attempted in the safest possible manner. Laws will be followed, including those laws that for which, you may not have been be aware.
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Old 05-28-2018, 05:16 PM
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Good rules - well done.
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