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Old 05-19-2018, 09:42 AM
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tweaked my middle back last week. Wednesday I think. In the gym, hadn't done squats in a while and went a little heavier than I should have. Im not ego lifting, my form is good.

Took it easy thursday, re tweaked it Friday picking up a massive 30 pound dumbbell. Which tells me it needs more rest obviously. I lifted it exactly how you're supposed to, despite the light weight.

Been rubbing icy hot on it since then, and it's feeling way better. Also taking 800 mg ibuprofen. Just went to cvs to get the patch versions, as I need to venture out into the world later, and they have lidocaine in the same section. Is that any good? Any other good options? I know yuor back is not to be messed with. I tweaked a shoulder a few years ago and didn't rest it, took a year plus to heal. I'm not going down that route this time.

Meeting with a PT Monday am too, but it's Saturday and Im bored on a rainy day. Fwiw I'm 36 and haven't ever had back issues in the past. I don't think this is anything serious, but it is sore.
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Get the patches at Walgreens...work good.
stretch out if you can
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Heating pad and those wearable heating things help me.
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yes lidocaine can help. wear the patch for 12 hours then remove for 12 hours. biofreeze, or the generic equivalent (I carry fast freeze) works extremely well. start with a small amount and add more if needed. takes a few minutes to start working but when it does, it works wonders. they make aspercreme with lidocaine now too, but I would recommend the biofreeze type products over lidocaine. im a pharmacist
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Old 05-19-2018, 10:27 AM
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Thanks guys.

I just got lidocaine patches and icy hot patches. Have a lidocaine one on now.

They don't stay on all that great but I'm laying down stretched out now. It feels way better now than it did this morning.

My wife's got a heating pad somewhere that helped her through two pregnancies, May break that out later on.

Its a third lf the way up or so, not the scary "lower back" injury area but also not nice and high where it would be a clear muscle strain.
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The best thing traditionally was rest and codeine. Always worked for responsible people.
But you can hardly get a Dr. to prescribe an opiate because some 'efn' druggy is ODing on herion somewhere.
Yeah, sure, we hear stories, but if they were selling as much opioids as the media says, then the problem was small.
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I have found that NONE of those topical OTC things work and use Tylenol, Advil, and Alcohol I find these to be harder on my body than codeine, but it does work.
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I have to get things done and it works. Don't over do alcohol, just at medicinal levels.
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Bourbon.
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
Bourbon.
I don't like bourbon, but medicine isn't supposed to taste good.
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Originally Posted by KG7IL View Post
I don't like bourbon, but medicine isn't supposed to taste good.
no issue at all substituting scotch, gin, vodka, etc.
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Heroin. Big ole needle full you'll be better in no time.
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If you have any muscle relaxants around.....
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
Bourbon.
Bourbon(s) ... Maker's 46 to be exact.

My wife uses Aloe with lidocaine 10%... get it from the islands (Aruba). 4% is all you can get here without a script.
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Careful with the lidocaine patch, it can mask the pain and allow for more damage. Anti-inflammatories, muscle relaxers, heat, stretching, rest and inversion table would be my vote.
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Biofreeze

and stretch your hamstrings and glutes as much as you can without pain. If you tweaked something in your back, tight hamstrings will pull in it and mess with your posture, making the back issue worse.
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Originally Posted by KG7IL View Post
The best thing traditionally was rest and codeine. Always worked for responsible people.
But you can hardly get a Dr. to prescribe an opiate because some 'efn' druggy is ODing on herion somewhere.
Yeah, sure, we hear stories, but if they were selling as much opioids as the media says, then the problem was small.
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I have found that NONE of those topical OTC things work and use Tylenol, Advil, and Alcohol I find these to be harder on my body than codeine, but it does work.
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I have to get things done and it works. Don't over do alcohol, just at medicinal levels.
im 36, and I think I have one pain killer presecription in my entire history. I mentioned to my wife I'd ask the PT for some Monday maybe. She literally laughed at me. Basically told me same thing you said.

Im not so obtuse I don't know there's an opiod epidemic in he US, but a guy with a record of sports injuries and zero pain killers shouldn't (in my world) have an issue getting some if he needs them. I hate ibuprofen but it's all I have.

I dont drink nightly, but I'm going to an open bar party tonight so I'll take my weeks dose all at once.

I have been stretching and will continue to do so. My posture is good and this is making it better, slouching or hunching hurts.

Massage wouldnt feel good, it's isolated and sensitive.

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Double your daily ibuprofen dose or even 2000 mg a day. 800 mg is half therapeutic. Then rest .ice packs will also simmer it down. Goop's like you are trying have limited duration and don't get to the muscle and ligaments.

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Back in the day, a couple of codeine pills and few shots of bourbon (or a six pack of brews if the liquor cabinet was empty) did the trick for me).
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