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Old 05-18-2018, 09:12 AM
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Yes, my child goes to public school (for now), so I know it is my fault, but let's put that aside for now. So, my daughter's 5th grade ELA/social studies teacher showed the class a music video and used it in part of his lesson plan. They video is titled "This is America" by Childish Gambino. Looking for the THT opinion if you think it is appropriate for 10-11 year olds. Take a look and let me know what you think.
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Old 05-18-2018, 09:13 AM
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It is inappropriate
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Old 05-18-2018, 09:15 AM
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This Is AmericaDonald Glover
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Yeah, yeah, yeah, go, go away
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Yeah, yeah, yeah, go, go away
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Yeah, yeah, yeah, go, go away
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Yeah, yeah, yeah, go, go awayWe just wanna party
Party just for you
We just want the money
Money just for you
I know you wanna party
Party just for me
Girl, you got me dancin' (yeah, girl, you got me dancin')
Dance and shake the frame
We just wanna party (yeah)
Party just for you (yeah)
We just want the money (yeah)
Money just for you (you)
I know you wanna party (yeah)
Party just for me (yeah)
Girl, you got me dancin' (yeah, girl, you got me dancin')
Dance and shake the frame (you)This is America
Don't catch you slippin' up
Don't catch you slippin' up
Look what I'm whippin' up
This is America (woo)
Don't catch you slippin' up
Don't catch you slippin' up
Look what I'm whippin' upThis is America (skrrt, skrrt, woo)
Don't catch you slippin' up (ayy)
Look at how I'm livin' now
Police be trippin' now (woo)
Yeah, this is America (woo, ayy)
Guns in my area (word, my area)
I got the strap (ayy, ayy)
I gotta carry 'em
Yeah, yeah, I'ma go into this (ugh)
Yeah, yeah, this is guerilla (woo)
Yeah, yeah, I'ma go get the bag
Yeah, yeah, or I'ma get the pad
Yeah, yeah, I'm so cold like yeah (yeah)
I'm so dope like yeah (woo)
We gon' blow like yeah (straight up, uh)Ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh, tell somebody
You go tell somebody
Grandma told me
Get your money, Black man (get your money)
Get your money, Black man (get your money)
Get your money, Black man (get your, Black man)
Get your money, Black man (get your, Black man)
Black manThis is America (woo, ayy)
Don't catch you slippin' up (woo, woo, don't catch you slippin', now)
Don't catch you slippin' up (ayy, woah)
Look what I'm whippin' up (Slime!)
This is America (yeah, yeah)
Don't catch you slippin' up (woah, ayy)
Don't catch you slippin' up (ayy, woo)
Look what I'm whippin' up (ayy)Look how I'm geekin' out (hey)
I'm so fitted (I'm so fitted, woo)
I'm on Gucci (I'm on Gucci)
I'm so pretty (yeah, yeah)
I'm gon' get it (ayy, I'm gon' get it)
Watch me move (blaow)
This a celly (ha)
That's a tool (yeah)
On my Kodak (woo, Black)
Ooh, know that (yeah, know that, hold on)
Get it (get it, get it)
Ooh, work it (21)
Hunnid bands, hunnid bands, hunnid bands (hunnid bands)
Contraband, contraband, contraband (contraband)
I got the plug on Oaxaca (woah)
They gonna find you that blocka (blaow)Ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh, tell somebody
America, I just checked my following list and
You go tell somebody
You mothafuckas owe me
Grandma told me
Get your money, Black man (Black man)
Get your money, Black man (Black man)
Get your money, Black man (Black man)
Get your money, Black man Black man)
Black man (one, two, three, get down)Ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh, tell somebody
You go tell somebody
Grandma told me, "Get your money, " Black man
Get your money, Black man (Black man)
Get your money, Black man (Black man)
Get your money, Black man (Black man)
Black manYou just a Black man in this world
You just a barcode, ayy
You just a Black man in this world
Drivin' expensive foreigns, ayy
You just a big dawg, yeah
I kenneled him in the backyard
No proper life to a dog
For a big dogSongwriters: Donald Glover / Ludwig GoranssonThis Is America lyrics © Universal Music Publishing Group
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Are you kidding me? I would send link to video to Superintendent and Principal asking how this is appropriate in their classroom.
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I'm not sure what the song is trying to say.......but I find it completely inappropriate to teach gibberish to school kids.
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I would 9,999,999,999 different ways of bullshit over this....I'd be down there yesterday.
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10-11 year olds? Yeah, that's not remotely acceptable.
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Totally inappropriate for 5th grade.

It does highlight the damn mindset of the hood rats thou..They think they are owed something and will kill anything with no care..
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I would be pissed,,,,start with principle and move up to the state Director of Education until this is resolved
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Inappropriate yes however, if teach is female I'd like a pic.
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Originally Posted by fishtale View Post
Yes, my child goes to public school (for now), so I know it is my fault, but let's put that aside for now. So, my daughter's 5th grade ELA/social studies teacher showed the class a music video and used it in part of his lesson plan. They video is titled "This is America" by Childish Gambino. Looking for the THT opinion if you think it is appropriate for 10-11 year olds. Take a look and let me know what you think.
I don't remember what grade, but one teacher had us watch Boyz in the Hood.
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Very inappropriate and poor judgement by the teacher, just one of the reasons my 11 year old is now home schooled.
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Old 05-18-2018, 09:55 AM
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I don't think the message is far off of reality. However, you don't show that to students unless you had the parents permission. If the teacher is using it in a good way to teach something it could be effective. But I would want to know what that is first.

I am going to dance/walk around like that for the rest of the weekend now.
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It is totally inappropriate to show a video of an automatic weapon mowing down a choir. I didn't pay attention to the words, but that scene should not be shown to 10-11 year olds.
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Are you kidding me? I would send link to video to Superintendent and Principal asking how this is appropriate in their classroom.
IMO you don't send just a letter, you send letter with tracking, when you know it will be delivered you pay a visit to the superintendents office to follow up face to face person to person. You make sure to be polite but firm, outline what actions you expect to take place and what to know when you all including the teacher can meet to discuss this.
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Teach is likely a Hood Rat, themselves.

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I don't see an issue with it. It's an extremely artistic video and brings up a lot of issues facing our society.
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I don't think the message is far off of reality. However, you don't show that to students unless you had the parents permission. If the teacher is using it in a good way to teach something it could be effective. But I would want to know what that is first.

I am going to dance/walk around like that for the rest of the weekend now.
Satire on the state of current rap music and how it has no message, by using what sounds like popular current rap music, but implementing a message on current race relations. Most adults are completely whiffing on the message, so I would expect it to be a moot point for 10-11 year olds who just likely see the imagery for what is in front of their eyes.

"Childish Gambino" is the stage name for Donald Glover a very intelligent comedic writer and actor.

High school class, extremely good way to implement pop culture into pertinent politics. 10-11, no way. Middle school, maybe.
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Here are some of his lyrics not used for satire. Gives you a better idea.

I used to dream every night, now I never dream at all
Hopin' that it's cause I'm livin' everything I want
Used to wake up in a bed between my mom and aunt
Playing with this Land Before Time toy from Pizza Hut
My dad works nights
Putting on a stone face
He's saving up so we can get our own place
In the projects, man that sounds fancy to me
They called me fat nose, my mom say you handsome to me
Mrs. Glover ma'am, your son is so advanced
But he's acting up in class and keeps peeing in his pants
And I just wanna fit in, but nobody was helping me out
They talking hood shit and I ain't know what that was about
Cause hood shit and black shit is super different
So I'm talking hood shit and cool it now like New Edition
Mom and dad wouldn't listen
They left the Bronx so I wouldn't be that
All their friends in NY deal crack
It's weird, you think that they'd be proud of 'em
But when you leave the hood they think that you look down on 'em
The truth is we still struggle on a different plane
7 dollars an hour, WIC vouchers, it's all the same
Facebook messaging hopin' that could patch up shit
But all they get now is, "Can your son read this script?"

[Hook]
There's a world we can visit if we go outside
Outside, outside
We can follow the road
There's a world we can visit if we go outside
Outside, outside
No one knows
There's a world we can visit if we go outside
Outside, outside
We can follow the road
There's a world we can visit if we go outside
Outside, outside
No one knows

[Verse 2]
Yeah
Dad lost his job
Mama worked at Mrs. Winner's
Gun pulled in her face
She still made dinner
“Donald watch the meter
So they don’t turn the lights off"
Workin' two jobs so I can get into that white school
And I hate it there
They all make fun of my clothes and wanna touch my hair
And my uncle on that stuff that got my Grandma shook
Drug dealers roughed him up and stole his address book
He’s supposed to pay ‘em back
He owe 'em money but his bank account is zero
So my momma made us sleep with Phillips heads under the pillow
Like that would do somethin'
But she’s got six kids, she’s gotta do somethin'
She don’t want me in a lifestyle like my cousin
And he mad cause his father ain’t around
He lookin’ at me now, like
"Why you so fuckin lucky?
I had a father too
But he ain’t around so I'mma take it out on you"
We used to say "I love you"
Now we only think that shit
It feels weird that you’re the person I took sink baths with
Street took you over
I want my cousin back
The world sayin' what you are because you’re young and black
Don’t believe ‘em
You’re still that kid that kept the older boys from teasin'
For some reason

[Hook]

[Outro]
Can you hear me now?
Can you hear me now?
Oh, help us Lord
Oh, baby baby baby
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Inappropriate yes however, if teach is female I'd like a pic.
I'm sure you could get it from any of her former male students. (apologies to all female teachers who are not child diddlers)
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