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Old 05-16-2018, 11:48 AM
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So the wife and I had a conversation last night regarding the supreme court ruling . I posed the question to her that if you could have casinos and sports betting legal in SC would you want it and do you think the revenue would out way the turmoil ??

My personal opinion is I enjoy gambling a bit if on a cruise , or visiting a town that has a casino or horsetrack . However knowing that I am responsible and have a wife and 3 kids to support I am very conscious of never getting "carried away" I feel if there were casinos in all the major cities how many people would gamble away rent , food , clothing money and leave their families at home in a bad place because they were chasing the payday . I think we can agree the casino is going to win a lot more than sally sue taking her restaurant tip money to the slot machine . That said I know it will bring substantial tourist dollars and revenue . So what say THT looking for opinions and if you could have casinos and betting in your town would you want it ?? MYYELLA you are void from this thread because we know you are a gambling degenerate
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Old 05-16-2018, 11:54 AM
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I like craps and the sports book...... All for changes in the law....

Legalize everything and tax it is what I say ...
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Old 05-16-2018, 11:55 AM
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In NC & SC we have scratch offs anyway, its been a while but when I got the itch for a card game 'The Big M' was always 20 minutes away. I can still remember poker machines in every store that had spare room, they were fun. But I categorize myself as "responsible" and only piss away won't I won't miss.

A fool and his money are soon parted, theres plenty of outlets if so chosen, whats one more...bring on the casinos!
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I'm very much in favor of legalized, unorganized gambling. Office pools, friendly betting on the golf course, Calcutta, etc.

Also have no issue with book makers and gambling on sporting events. I personally dislike, and don't see the purpose in sports that exist merely to facilitate gambling.
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I am kind of looking at it selfishly , thinking IF legal in SC it would be taxed and LOT of revenue to help out public schools (I am on School Board of Trustees ) . Hopefully this would translate into MUCH better pay for our teachers

However personally could care less, I am just not a gambler. It has never interested me at all

Been to Harrah's once and enjoy cigars and bourbon more than gambling, won $600 or so but main reason I won it was my Sister in Law (she goes all the time) was sitting there telling me which buttons to push . Wife and I took $500 to spend and came home with $800, have not been back

I am sure it will go like wild fire though and I am already hearing NBA is "wanting their fair share" of the take
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over the long term it seems that gambling ventures up here have never met expectations and I expect have a net $ cost to the taxpayers. Too convoluted to research.
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I believe that casinos draw those least able to afford to lose money, just like lotteries. In general, they are a drag on society by "keeping the little man down". Legalizing sports gambling is different, but again many who lose can't afford to lose.

I don't bet in office pools, I could care less who wins most things (except Michigan Football), so if this makes it legit and taxable for revenue, then that's great.
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No reason IMO for it to be illegal for states to run, assuming the voters are for it.
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Old 05-16-2018, 12:08 PM
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I don't think it's anything to worry about. Commerce is good.
We don't blame the grocery store for people who overeat here...although I know some jurisdictions do.
I'm for large sodas.
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I guess my concerns in all honesty are really not "MY" concerns . I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that I will not become the person I fear lots of other people "could" become . As was mentioned earlier about poker machines when they were legal in SC I worked at a local bar and witnessed some VERY sad situations of people just out of control chasing that pay day . My only real concern is for that low level income family that neglects family obligation chasing a "pay day" it isn't my problem so to speak but for the well being of people and communities in general I question the trade off for the added tax benefits vs. the struggles some would face with addiction .
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I am kind of looking at it selfishly , thinking IF legal in SC it would be taxed and LOT of revenue to help out public schools (I am on School Board of Trustees ) . Hopefully this would translate into MUCH better pay for our teachers

However personally could care less, I am just not a gambler. It has never interested me at all

Been to Harrah's once and enjoy cigars and bourbon more than gambling, won $600 or so but main reason I won it was my Sister in Law (she goes all the time) was sitting there telling me which buttons to push . Wife and I took $500 to spend and came home with $800, have not been back

I am sure it will go like wild fire though and I am already hearing NBA is "wanting their fair share" of the take

The school issue is what they sold us on in MD..
I can say for a fact it has done almost nothing for the jurisdiction I work in.
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I have no problem with gambling as long as it's done for entertainment with disposable income.
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Problem is the revenue gratin and taxes my be a positive but it's where and how the tax revenues are spent that bothers me. Here in NJ infrastructure is S H I T and if it could mandated that it was going into road repair and other tangible items that would be great but doubt WE THE PEOPLE will ever see any of it...
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Originally Posted by tprice View Post
I am kind of looking at it selfishly , thinking IF legal in SC it would be taxed and LOT of revenue to help out public schools (I am on School Board of Trustees ) . Hopefully this would translate into MUCH better pay for our teachers

However personally could care less, I am just not a gambler. It has never interested me at all

Been to Harrah's once and enjoy cigars and bourbon more than gambling, won $600 or so but main reason I won it was my Sister in Law (she goes all the time) was sitting there telling me which buttons to push . Wife and I took $500 to spend and came home with $800, have not been back

I am sure it will go like wild fire though and I am already hearing NBA is "wanting their fair share" of the take

This.....

Well for me anyway
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The voters or state gov still have to approve the casinos. I am not a big gambler myself as I am too cheap. I bring in cash that I am ok with losing and that’s it. When it is gone, so am I.

At the big Casino (for central Louisiana) near me in Marksville, I witnessed a sad scene like you are talking about. A young couple (late 20’s maybe) we’re leaving the casino and she was screaming at him the whole way to their car. I caught her cussing him and “how am I going to pay the rent”, “how am I going to feed our kids”, “how am I going to pay the car note”. Apparently she went in there and found him. He gambled away every penny they had. It was a sad scene. I wonder if he realized what he was doing.
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I have no real issue with gambling and I have gambled in the past and surely will in the future....having said that i hope gambling NEVER comes to my state especially in the form of casinos and that is in spite of the fact that my state is surrounded (with the exception of one) by several states with casinos

the nice way to say it is that gambling is a "mature industry" and in fact it is BEYOND mature and that is they have basically tapped out every gambler and every gambling dollar in the country and then some and all new "gambling dollars" come either off the backs of existing casinos or worse off the backs of other existing entertainment dollars and industries that cannot compete with gambling over the long haul

one need to only look at the sate of and the fate of atlantic city and remember that at one time it was one of only two major places in the USA that had casino gambling and in spite of that fact the place is one of the biggest shit holes in the USA and it is littered with empty casinos that will never be re-purposed and even a brand new casino that went broke TWICE before it even had the grand opening and grand closing after going broke a third time 9 months later and being shuttered for good

there has been an in depth study on gambling in New Orleans where they made the casino have no restaurants and no hotel and again the temp casino went broke before the building they were building for the actual casino was finished and that study has concluded that gambling simply siphons money away from other existing forms of entertainment

and after the main casino opened they eventually fought to get restaurants and eventually a hotel because somehow a business with an undisputed mathematical advantage could not make a profit without the hotel included and the restaurants......oh yea and each time they lowered the money that the casino had to pay in taxes to the city and state

and you can look at areas of Mississippi to see abandoned casinos half completed right on the beach looking like shit, others that have been shuttered and bought out by the competition so they will never reopen and the dame in detoilet, garry indiana, and other similar failed shitholes that thought gambling was going to solve issues for them

look around areas that have gambling there is ZERO other development because the casino sucks the customer in and does everything they can to keep them there hell they will build a gas station of their own if they think a gas station around the block is getting casino customer business

there is NOWHERE in the USA that will see an increase in taxes especially to go towards education or the,like from casino gambling and there are MANY places that will see casinos come in, kill local entertainment and atmosphere and then when they go broke they will abandon the place and the local entertainment and atmosphere will NOT return and the tax dollars will never materialize

if you have a politician that is looking to the casino business to "help the area" or to "increase tax receipts" then you have a moron for a politician and your area is probably in serious trouble and getting worse......especially if you get a casino
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I have no problem with gambling as long as it's done for entertainment with disposable income.
Totally agree ! Would be interesting to know what percentage of people gambling in the casino are there for entertainment and have disposable funds vs. what % are leveraged to the hilt and if they lose they walk out without enough money to pay the bills ....
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The voters or state gov still have to approve the casinos. I am not a big gambler myself as I am too cheap. I bring in cash that I am ok with losing and that’s it. When it is gone, so am I.

At the big Casino (for central Louisiana) near me in Marksville, I witnessed a sad scene like you are talking about. A young couple (late 20’s maybe) we’re leaving the casino and she was screaming at him the whole way to their car. I caught her cussing him and “how am I going to pay the rent”, “how am I going to feed our kids”, “how am I going to pay the car note”. Apparently she went in there and found him. He gambled away every penny they had. It was a sad scene. I wonder if he realized what he was doing.
This is EXACTLY what my concerns for society and the poor kids at home that are clueless ... Sadly it happens hundreds or thousands of times everyday if I had to guess
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The voters or state gov still have to approve the casinos. I am not a big gambler myself as I am too cheap. I bring in cash that I am ok with losing and that’s it. When it is gone, so am I.

At the big Casino (for central Louisiana) near me in Marksville, I witnessed a sad scene like you are talking about. A young couple (late 20’s maybe) we’re leaving the casino and she was screaming at him the whole way to their car. I caught her cussing him and “how am I going to pay the rent”, “how am I going to feed our kids”, “how am I going to pay the car note”. Apparently she went in there and found him. He gambled away every penny they had. It was a sad scene. I wonder if he realized what he was doing.
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Who cares. Legalize gambling, drugs, hookers, large cokes.

I wish I could use my EBT on scratch offs. I'm close to hitting it big.
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