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Old 05-16-2018, 06:41 AM
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It's safe to say that since the last Vette I owned was a 1996, things probably have changed a little and I know nothing about this new stuff. What I do know is there are a few lawsuits for the Z06 2015 - 2017 model years regarding the cooling issues. Does any of that pertain to the new ones? Not that I am going to turning laps at Nurburging, but I don't need to buy something that is defective right off the get go. Any thoughts or reasons not to buy a Z06 (Other than money) and go with a Stingray or Grand Sport? I can think of 650 reasons to purchase the Z06......


-2019 Z06
-Blade Silver Metallic ( Not sure on the black stripes ) ?
-7 Speed Manual
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-Black Painted Aluminum Rims
-Navigation / Data Recorder
-Carbon Flash Painted outside mirrors


Any must have options that I am missing?


From what I am being told, the Auto/Paddle shifter is faster (On Paper). But the 7 speed is funner to drive. Anyone have experience with both?

Thanks in advance for any advice!
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I know very little about corvettes or answers to your questions . However my opinion on stripes is NO I prefer the clean look of the car in the first set of pics
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Only really, really old people who have handicap stickers buy those!
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Only really, really old people who have handicap stickers buy those!
Doesn't make them a bad car, just not a trendy purchase among the youngsters who believe they know what is cool and trendy so they can fit in with their peers.
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Car is supposed to be one of the best performance sports cars money can buy, and very cheap for what you get apparently. I'm just always tickled by seeing well over 75% of them driven by men over 70 yrs old, many with handicap plates... The irony is really funny..... No grudges though, just saying!
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There is a vette oracal here....name escapes me...he'll be here shortly.
sweet looking ride...keep it clean
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Car is supposed to be one of the best performance sports cars money can buy, and very cheap for what you get apparently. I'm just always tickled by seeing well over 75% of them driven by men over 70 yrs old, many with handicap plates... The irony is really funny..... No grudges though, just saying!
Taking a step back that's actually cool , better than just playing shuffle board though I see the irony . Taking a walk around the park one day throwing lures I steadied a 13' Boston Whaler while the owner pulled it out with his Vette . " I gotta know , How"s it Tow ? " He grinned and for probably the million'th time said " Fast "
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All I can say is YOU SUCK

Man that is a sweet ride

I will say this, I have looked several times at trading my 08 for a 2013 427 but due to known issues with the 427 I have stayed away from them plus they are all manual transmissions which would not work when my wife wants to drive it
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I had the 14-17 stingray but quit driving it because old people always try to talk to me about it. Even once had a weird old guy follow me into petco and creep around trying to get me to join the local geezer vette club, like I want to drive around in a sports car 10 miles below the speed limit with a bunch of old dudes, lol. Didn't touch it for like a year. Sold it a year later. Not really for me.

Anyway, I never had an issue with it all the way to like 12k miles and would drive it around like a crazy person. My neighbor has a new z06 and haven't heard any complaints not sure of his miles. No clue about paddle shifters all manuals
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My understanding the overheating is from track related hard driving.
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Also if you have time the Museum Delivery is worth it to me
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Also if you have time the Museum Delivery is worth it to me
ding ding...here's the Oracle I was referring too
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Exterior colors, stripes, black mirrors, wheel colors, caliper colors and trim options are all personal choices - pick what you like.
On equipment, 2LT/2LZ plus PDR (performance data recorder) gives you all you need to have a great car
The overheating issues on the 2015-2017's is with the A8 automatic and only while running very hard at the track in air temperatures above 85 degrees; the 2018-19's have additional coolers that raise the temperature tolerance to about 100 degrees - pushed hard enough in the heat, every car will run hot and then overheat.
I have driven all forms of C7's - Stingray, Z51, Grand Sport (GS), Z06 & ZR1, and both manuals and automatics (A6 & A8). To me, the manual, especially in the Stingray/Z51/GS is far more fun, but the automatic (A8= 8 speed; A6= 6 speed (2014 only)) is definitely faster (not just on paper), and I think a better match for the Z06 because 1st gear on the Z06 is too high (63 mph at redline) to cope with slow speed driving around town (idle speed (650 rpm) is 6.4 mph, so in traffic you are constantly on the clutch.
There is no doubt that above 50 mph the Z06 is noticeably faster than GS - below 40 mph, due to traction issues not so much. With a Z06, especially a manual, you need to modulate power or short shift 1st & 2nd gears to keep the wheel spin to zero - the GS will take full throttle in all gears without breaking traction if them temps are above 70 degrees out (all have summer tires, so below 60 degrees they get slick).
How hard to you plan to drive away from the street (HPDE, Autocross or track days?), and where you live, can you be spend much time above 70 mph? If the answer is no non-street driving and speed kept within the speed limits, you may find, as I and many others do, that the GS is the better choice. It has the same body, tires, brakes, suspension and equipment as the Z06 - the only difference is it only has 460 hp in a 110 lb lighter car. Its handling balance is a little better than the Z06 as all of that 110 lbs is in the front, and I like to be able to just floor it in 1st (52 mph) & 2nd gear (76 mph) and let it wind out to 6,000 rpm (71 mph in 2nd) (6,500 rpm redline).
I don't track my GS, but I do some autocross and HPDE events with it - I have tracked other C7's (Z51 & GS) during my 4 trips to Spring Mountain (2 Corvette owner courses plus level 1 & level 2), and am consistently pretty fast - in my last trip out there, I was running faster lap times than all 4 drivers in my group that had Z06's and all those in GS's too. The Corvette owners school is $2,500, but with the purchase of a new Corvette, GM pays $1,500, so it is only $1,000 for 2 days (www.springmountainmotorsports.com) and probably the best part of getting a new Corvette.
If having the fastest Corvette under $100,000 (ZR1 with 755 hp is faster than the Z06) on paper and the bragging rights it comes with are important to you, then the Z06 is a must have. For me, the extra $13,000 the Z06 costs over the exact same GS was a non-factor in my decision to buy the GS. 650 hp is not very useful on the street, the GS has better handling balance, and having a manual transmission is the only way I would own a sports car.
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Car is supposed to be one of the best performance sports cars money can buy, and very cheap for what you get apparently. I'm just always tickled by seeing well over 75% of them driven by men over 70 yrs old, many with handicap plates... The irony is really funny..... No grudges though, just saying!
Let me guess you live or live near "God's waiting room".
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LI32 & Tprice ---- Thanks Man! Great info.

Quite honestly, I'm not sure what I am going to do other than beat on it here or there on a summer evening. I'm not a car club guy, so I think that's out of the equation. There is https://m1concourse.com/ right around the corner from me that I could check out. Maybe give it a try to see how I like it. I'm sure there's some local street racing that I can dig into. My sons would love to do that. As far as I'm concerned though, 200 Horsepower for $10K is cheap money and why I just gotta have the Z06. Plus it'll be a fine addition to my 2 Stock FoxBodys that I picked up over the last year.

My buddy is trying to talk me out of this and into a Porsche. While it might out handle the Vette on a road course, that's not what I am looking to do (Yet).
Plus I really dig the way the Vette's look.

If I pull the trigger, I think the one below is it.

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A buddy of mine has been in to Vette's for as long as I can remember (I think his first one was an '87 he bought new). He recently sold his 2012 Z06 and bought a new '17 Grand Sport (May 1st). 2 weeks later he sends me a pic of the new '17 Z06 he traded the GS on. I ask him WTH??? He tells me the GS was just too slow. Must be nice.

Oh! Then he calls me 2 nights ago and tells me the wife of the guy that bought his '12 Z06 had called him bitching him out. It seems the guy stacked it up and the dude is in the hospital and the wife is concerned that he is unable to work now, blah, blah, blah. My buddy hung up on her about a minute into her tirade.
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Speaking of crashes.... I take it this would not be covered under insurance if it say slammed into a wall at 120mph on a race track, correct?

Whats the rule of thumb. Tow it out at 2 in the morning under the cover of darkness and drop it off at the local 7-Elevan? Make a police report that it was hit in the parking lot ?
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Speaking of crashes.... I take it this would not be covered under insurance if it say slammed into a wall at 120mph on a race track, correct?

Whats the rule of thumb. Tow it out at 2 in the morning under the cover of darkness and drop it off at the local 7-Elevan? Make a police report that it was hit in the parking lot ?

I had just read an article about crashing on a track and that the complete out of pocket loss for an uninsured vehicle from crashing on a track would be a walk in the park compared to the penalties from insurance fraud and STILL not being covered. The idea that there will be others with track cameras, picture takers, all of who are NOT friends with the person who crashed the car, and that the insurance company is going to just simply pay-out . . . Here is the article here:


https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cul...kday-now-what/

The rule of thumb is to find out what the insurance company will cover before going on a track.
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